F1 to no longer feature "grid girls"

[Valentine Z]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it? I mean, I don't really hear the grid girls complaining about their jobs, so... why? It creates jobs too.

Or if you want to, why not add grid boys like the others have said?

[The Two Jerseys]

The notion that women can be allowed to make choices of their own volition is patriarchal oppression.

I am sorry. I will not question the most equal of women no more. Forgive me of my manspalining and manspreading. A-women.

That's "a-womyn", you sexist pig!

[Chuukango]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it? I mean, I don't really hear the grid girls complaining about their jobs, so... why? It creates jobs too.

Or if you want to, why not add grid boys like the others have said?

That’s actually not a bad idea, just on the surface.
Hey! That means Seb will finally be able to park behind George and Dave!

[Trumptonium]

So are women just not allowed to become strippers if they want too?

The notion that women can be allowed to make choices of their own volition is patriarchal oppression.

They're simply too brainwashed by the patriarchy to make their own choices.

To the gates of hell, I say!

[The Huskar Social Union]

So... we have women being used as sex/rape slaves in the Middle East, and Chess is celebrating and touting absolute mundane shit hat does more harm than good as true progress? Surprised, I am not.

Also, so now there's even less reasons to watch racing then?

Priorities.

Apparently.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

They just did the same thing with darts. The girls were very pissed off at losing their living.

Some of them, not all, not even most.

Even some Icelandic strippers were.
That doesn't mean that what they did was right.

And on what basis do you presume it justified to deny them their preferred job?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it? I mean, I don't really hear the grid girls complaining about their jobs, so... why? It creates jobs too.

Or if you want to, why not add grid boys like the others have said?

Trying to make this "gender neutral" is just deluding ourselves into pretending it's a coincidence that the customer paid to see grid girls, not grid boys.

And who gets to say what would be a male equivalent? Just the differences in expected attire would be enough to make people cry "sexism!"

[Donut section]

Because nothing screams female empowerment like limiting women's opportunities. It's almost like they are trying to keep women marginalised for their own profit. But I'm sure I'm wrong there can never be a victim industry, certainly not from moral exemplars like hard core feminists...

[Tule]

Even some Icelandic strippers were.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that there is nothing wrong with strippers, in that strippers can be either gender, it isn't a gender-specific role. I have been in places that have strippers of both genders, the whole sexist/misogynist/objectifying women argument didn't really apply there as much.

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

[Donut section]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that there is nothing wrong with strippers, in that strippers can be either gender, it isn't a gender-specific role. I have been in places that have strippers of both genders, the whole sexist/misogynist/objectifying women argument didn't really apply there as much.

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

Did they also see a mouse in a wheat field and ban farming?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

#1 Grid Boi

https://pics.me.me/ethan-klein-h3h3prod ... 100425.png

T H I C C

[Trumptonium]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that there is nothing wrong with strippers, in that strippers can be either gender, it isn't a gender-specific role. I have been in places that have strippers of both genders, the whole sexist/misogynist/objectifying women argument didn't really apply there as much.

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

I thought liberals were in favour of the "BUT ITS ONLY A MINORITY" argument.

[Cassadaigua]

Very disappointing, I don't know any "grid girls", but I have known similar in the US, and it is nothing but fun and a chance to further a modeling career for them. I imagine F1 was a particularly great opportunity. While it might make men in a board room think that they are doing something right, and women who would have never been able to do any modeling, think that they are doing something right, they are merely shunning young women who are able to model, of a pretty glorious opportunity.

[Tule]

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

Did they also see a mouse in a wheat field and ban farming?

Because the ability to go into an establishment and look at naked women is worth some of them having their passports confiscated, being locked up in a house with 6 other strippers outside work and getting beaten to a pulp when they refuse to engage in prostitution.

I thought liberals were in favour of the "BUT ITS ONLY A MINORITY" argument.

When it comes to judging whether or not an entire group of people is entitled to basic human rights, yes.

But behavior, property and establishments? Usually not. Most gun owners never shoot anyone, but that fact is little consolation for the families of those who have lost someone to gun violence. So gun control is frequently advocated.

[Ors Might]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that there is nothing wrong with strippers, in that strippers can be either gender, it isn't a gender-specific role. I have been in places that have strippers of both genders, the whole sexist/misogynist/objectifying women argument didn't really apply there as much.

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

Did Iceland never think to, y’know, enforce some regulation on those strip clubs? Seems like an idea that would result in less unemployed women but what do I know?

[Donut section]

Did they also see a mouse in a wheat field and ban farming?

Because the ability to go into an establishment and look at naked women is worth some of them having their passports confiscated, being locked up in a house with 6 other strippers outside work and getting beaten to a pulp when they refuse to engage in prostitution.

I thought liberals were in favour of the "BUT ITS ONLY A MINORITY" argument.

When it comes to judging whether or not an entire group of people is entitled to basic human rights, yes.

But behavior, property and establishments? Usually not. Most gun owners never shoot anyone, but that fact is little consolation for the families of those who have lost someone to gun violence. So gun control is frequently advocated.

Because that's the only outcome of stripping.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it? I mean, I don't really hear the grid girls complaining about their jobs, so... why? It creates jobs too.

Or if you want to, why not add grid boys like the others have said?

Exactly.

It isn’t as much of gender equality as much as it is trampling on racing culture- there are already prominent female drivers. “Grid girls” and the bit of suggestiveness has made the events just more likable for most.

[The New California Republic]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that there is nothing wrong with strippers, in that strippers can be either gender, it isn't a gender-specific role. I have been in places that have strippers of both genders, the whole sexist/misogynist/objectifying women argument didn't really apply there as much.

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

I like how the ignoring of the fact that male strippers exist is still continuing...

Except it's overwhelmingly women who are strippers, due we live in a patriarchy.
That's why the world's most feminist country banned all strip clubs in 2010
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... st-country

Meh. On that point, do you think that male strippers should be banned?

OP, you probably missed this question, so just repeating it again so that you can see it and have an opportunity to answer it.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Eh i just dont really see what this achieves, far bigger issues imo to deal with instead of grid girls. And all its done is put some women out of their jobs.

The stripper ban in Iceland was put in place because the clubs frequently engaged in illegal procuring and human trafficking. Some women were voluntarily engaging in mere stripping, but coercion was nevertheless rampant in those establishments. Good riddance.

I like how the ignoring of the fact that male strippers exist is still continuing...

Heck, The guy who runs my slimming world group used to be one.

[The New California Republic]

'Grid kids' to replace 'grid girls' from start of the season: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42950040

Uhm...replacing scantily-clad women with children...what kind of pervert made that connection?

So it is OK to use children but not women? Probably because they can pay the kids less, if anything at all...

[Topoliani]

'Grid kids' to replace 'grid girls' from start of the season: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42950040

Uhm...replacing scantily-clad women with children...what kind of pervert made that connection?

So it is OK to use children but not women? Probably because they can pay the kids less, if anything at all...

Depends on how old they are

A 6-year-old would just be happy to be there

You can bribe an 8-year-old with 6 dollars or a cheap 50 cent piece of candy

12+ and things get complicated.

[Ifreann]

Eh i just dont really see what this achieves, far bigger issues imo to deal with instead of grid girls. And all its done is put some women out of their jobs.

What it's accomplishing is shielding F1 from being criticised over having women that serve no purpose but eye candy, which they're concerned might harm their brand image.

See, people need to remember that this wasn't an action taken by Feminist High Command as Step 139 of their dastardly plot to eliminate all cleavage. Formula 1 did this, for basically the same reason they do anything. They think it'll keep them rich, or get them richer.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

'Grid kids' to replace 'grid girls' from start of the season: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42950040

Uhm...replacing scantily-clad women with children...what kind of pervert made that connection?

So it is OK to use children but not women? Probably because they can pay the kids less, if anything at all...

Yeah.

I just don’t see the reason to ban or replace them.
Like I said, an amount of sexual suggestiveness is part of racing culture.
Ironically, the only thing they accomplish is preventing these women from getting their salary.
The kids could stay, but be part of another program, like doing their promotions with the pit stop crew.

[Ifreann]

'Grid kids' to replace 'grid girls' from start of the season: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42950040

Uhm...replacing scantily-clad women with children...what kind of pervert made that connection?

So it is OK to use children but not women? Probably because they can pay the kids less, if anything at all...

Yeah.

I just don’t see the reason to ban or replace them.
Like I said, an amount of sexual suggestiveness is part of racing culture.
Ironically, the only thing they accomplish is preventing these women from getting their salary.

So they're getting loud feminists like Chess off their backs AND saving money.

[Ors Might]

Eh i just dont really see what this achieves, far bigger issues imo to deal with instead of grid girls. And all its done is put some women out of their jobs.

What it's accomplishing is shielding F1 from being criticised over having women that serve no purpose but eye candy, which they're concerned might harm their brand image.

See, people need to remember that this wasn't an action taken by Feminist High Command as Step 139 of their dastardly plot to eliminate all cleavage. Formula 1 did this, for basically the same reason they do anything. They think it'll keep them rich, or get them richer.

See, I don’t necessarily hate that they did this. I don’t watch racing. My problem more or less lies with their reasoning for doing it.

That’s fair. It’s easy to jump to criticize feminism here for two main reasons. One, a tendency to get a bit pissed when women are “sexually objectified” though that can also be attributed to traditionalism. Still, it’s primarily a feminist issue. Second, the OP is known for her unique brand of feminism and she presented the change with that perspective in mind, setting the tone of the thread.