Pupil seemingly expelled for reporting illegal immigrant

[Katganistan]

This does prompt the question of whether or not schools can expel you for activities off-campus, such as being racist online.

They shouldn't, their private life is their private life.

Putting it on the net made it rather public, don't you think?

[Proctopeo]

They shouldn't, their private life is their private life.

Putting it on the net made it rather public, don't you think?

I don't think that was what was meant by "private life" and "public life".

[Katganistan]

What privacy laws?

Unspecified. At least by the article in question.

The same privacy laws that prevent newspapers and television news from reporting the names of minors who are accused of crimes?

The same ones that mean that any file schools have on a student which has personal information in it must be stored securely, transferred securely to their new school, and shredded when it is no longer needed?

Common sense, please? Fourth Amendment?

[Katganistan]

This kid spent too much time on /pol/ and actually took them seriously.
This is why it has an 18+ warning on it. This stupid imbecile just wanted attention and acted edgy.
I support his expulsion, although NOT FOR reporting the illegal immigrant.
This was indeed a service to the USA, as its wasting taxpayer money on some illegal's education when said illegal doesn't pay tax.

I do support his expulsion for his racist hatred on reddit of all places.

Really?
How do you buy anything without paying a sales tax?

[Des-Bal]

Really?
How do you buy anything without paying a sales tax?

Rarely. You also have substantially less access to certain services. As a result illegal immigrants as a group put more money into the system than they take out, something that is untrue of citizens without at least some college education.

[Katganistan]

Yes, those tax dollars are for use in the benefit of our country's citizens, not people who can't even follow our immigration laws. They're sucking up funds meant for our children.

Nah, that's the charter schools industry.

[Katganistan]

Or reassuring any potential enrollees that the school doesn't tolerate snitches.

Enrolling illegals? Fuck that school.

Public schools have to enroll any child of the proper age that shows up.

[Katganistan]

Oh dear. You must not be aware of foreign aid.

Hardly.

Foreign aid is also misuse of tax dollars.

There are millions of illegals here stealing our resources.

Yes, and were employed by Trump in his businesses.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... mar-a-lago
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-t ... le/2638290

So when is ICE going after the president?

[Donut section]

Really?
How do you buy anything without paying a sales tax?

Rarely. You also have substantially less access to certain services. As a result illegal immigrants as a group put more money into the system than they take out, something that is untrue of citizens without at least some college education.

The point is they have no right to take anything out. While citizens have every right.
Not only should deportees have to pay back their deportation costs, but if there evidence that they used services paid for by taxes then that should be added to the bill.

[Des-Bal]

Or you know fucking NSG. I wouldn't flinch if you told me that a post was from a thread here. Every single time there's a thread about a rapist or someone who did something to a child that's the exact kind of thing that gets posted, often without so much as a warning. What was that even in reference to? We don't know because presenting a full picture is not in the interests of media now that every news outlet is basically a blog and the account was deleted.

"If this happened where my family’s from, he would have the utter fucking shit beaten out of him within an inch of death. Maybe a couple inches past. What fucking garbage trash. Utter scum. I’d like to hammer bamboo shoots under his toenails and cut each and every one of his fingers off, a joint at the time and cauterize each wound to keep him from bleeding out and missing the pain he so richly deserves."


This is one of the horrible racist, hateful, violent posts that's being used as evidence he needed to be expelled. It is him talking about how he'd like to torture and possibly kill an immigrant. I have finally dug up the thing it was in reference to and my original assumption was completely and 100% accurate, it was in reference to someone doing something awful. This man beat an elderly woman into a coma for no apparent reason. Of course that context is immaterial because again: everybody is now a blog.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Enrolling illegals? Fuck that school.

Public schools have to enroll any child of the proper age that shows up.

Don't public schools require a student to prove their citizenship when said student enrolls into a public school?

[Katganistan]

Why? Their job is to run schools. Not to check citizenship.

You hate the government doing tihngs, shouldn't you hate giving more power to schools?

I think Americans have lost the plot about schools. Some want teachers armed with pistols, now we're discussing making teachers on the spot immigration officers?

Do you know what's needed to get a kid enrolled? Generally, something that proves you have a home address. Like a cable bill, electrical bill. That's it.

They don't ask for birth certificates. Just ID and a bill.

[Donut section]

Public schools have to enroll any child of the proper age that shows up.

Don't public schools require a student to prove their citizenship when said student enrolls into a public school?

They really should if they don't.

[Des-Bal]

The point is they have no right to take anything out. While citizens have every right.
Not only should deportees have to pay back their deportation costs, but if there evidence that they used services paid for by taxes then that should be added to the bill.

Why? I'm a college educated man, I'm in an education bracket that puts in more than it takes out. I, like many illegal immigrants am a producer. Why should a poor citizen be entitled to the benefits of my labor when they're not contributing their fair share?

The point is they haven't taken anything out. They aren't eligible for the same services that similarly situated people are but they pay most of the same taxes. You can't say "we're kicking you out now pay for the services you took," they already did: trying to charge them as they leave is double enrichment. If you're trying to balance the books the government should return every penny they received in tax money.

Let's get a few things straight: The government should be permitted to exercise judgement over who may and may not enter the country, illegal immigrants are not leeches sapping us of precious resources or bodily fluids and free speech is a right of paramount importance and this school was more likely than not in the wrong by abrogating it.

[Katganistan]

you mean... student?
Do other countries commonly call students "pupils"?

They are called pupils in the United States as well. It's synonymous with student.

[Katganistan]

How does one become a US Citizen these days? It should be a standardized test, we can test it on all natural citizens and deport anyone who fails.

Don't laugh. The citizenship test is pretty comprehensive.

[Donut section]

The point is they have no right to take anything out. While citizens have every right.
Not only should deportees have to pay back their deportation costs, but if there evidence that they used services paid for by taxes then that should be added to the bill.

Why? I'm a college educated man, I'm in an education bracket that puts in more than it takes out. I, like many illegal immigrants am a producer. Why should a poor citizen be entitled to the benefits of my labor when they're not contributing their fair share?

The point is they haven't taken anything out. They aren't eligible for the same services that similarly situated people are but they pay most of the same taxes. You can't say "we're kicking you out now pay for the services you took," they already did: trying to charge them as they leave is double enrichment. If you're trying to balance the books the government should return every penny they received in tax money.

Let's get a few things straight: The government should be permitted to exercise judgement over who may and may not enter the country, illegal immigrants are not leeches sapping us of precious resources or bodily fluids and free speech is a right of paramount importance and this school was more likely than not in the wrong by abrogating it.

It's not about who put in what, its about who has a right to take out and who doesn't.

While I'm a minarchist and don't believe its governments responsibility to provide said services, if we are going to be forced to pay for them then we better make sure that only citizens get to use them.

And do you know a better way to limit economic migration than assuring that they will be worse off than before?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Don't public schools require a student to prove their citizenship when said student enrolls into a public school?

They really should if they don't.

Make sanctuary schools

[Neanderthaland]

Don't public schools require a student to prove their citizenship when said student enrolls into a public school?

They really should if they don't.

Seems like it would be a waste of resources in most places. Good thing America's public schools are well-funded.

[Donut section]

They really should if they don't.

Make sanctuary schools

Or just make individuals liable for the economic costs when violating immigration laws. Watch sanctuary everything evaporate.

They really should if they don't.

Seems like it would be a waste of resources in most places. Good thing America's public schools are well-funded.

Imagine how well funded they can be when you can reclaim lost funds from criminal migrants.

[Proctopeo]

They really should if they don't.

Make sanctuary schools

An invitation to have the ICE pay special attention.

[Des-Bal]

Or just make individuals liable for the economic costs when violating immigration laws. Watch sanctuary everything evaporate.



Imagine how well funded they can be when you can reclaim lost funds from criminal migrants.

They are paying the economic costs, they are paying taxes greater than the benefits they receive. If we conducted an audit the probable result would be realizing we owed them money.

[Katganistan]

Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.

"Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Just imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

K.

[Neanderthaland]

Seems like it would be a waste of resources in most places. Good thing America's public schools are well-funded.

Imagine how well funded they can be when you can reclaim lost funds from criminal migrants.

Okay. What I'm imagining is that the meager debt collected by poor immigrants probably doesn't cover the cost of implementation. I'm further imagining that the cost of implementation in rural Iowa isn't going to be offset by any lost funds at all.

[Donut section]

Or just make individuals liable for the economic costs when violating immigration laws. Watch sanctuary everything evaporate.



Imagine how well funded they can be when you can reclaim lost funds from criminal migrants.

They are paying the economic costs, they are paying taxes greater than the benefits they receive. If we conducted an audit the probable result would be realizing we owed them money.

I'm uncertain how America does it but here we have a tax file number used to deal with this sort of thing. It's not unfair to ignore any contributions that they have made as they don't have the equivalent.