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Postby HMS Barham » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:04 am

The quote also needs a source, because the Ancient Greeks knew the earth wasn't flat.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:28 am

New haven america wrote:crap ton of money.

Which is why some immigrants come illegally.
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New haven america wrote:Oh, you mean jobs the native population refuses to do?

Tell me, just how excited would you be if you got offered to pick fruit in the middle of the south's Summer or dig ditches in 100+ f conditions for less than minimum wage? Not very I'd assume.

I am not too sure about the US but in the UK we had similar propaganda about how British people are "lazy" and deserve to lose their jobs to migrants which isn't true. They are very lazy people mostly millennials it seems in the country but also very hard working people that work hard in harsh conditions for long hours such as steel mills and the same thing applies to immigrants they aren't all hard working as the media portrays some are very lazy and live off welfare while others work very hard for their families

You want people to stop making stereotypes about Brits, then make stereotypes about immigrants...hypocrisy much?
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they dont

I give up.
Youre stupid

Don't say that.
But you're right, risking your life and being mistreated apparently isn't commitment. What Trumptonium said was beyond stupid. It was inconsiderate.
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New haven america wrote:That also goes for Canada, Japan, Australia, Switzerland, Austria, etc...

America is one thing Japan and Europe are old world nation states that belong to the native people

Time to give Japan back to the Ainu, and Europe back to the Neaderthals
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New haven america wrote:First: Bloodline citizenship is stupid,


yet it's used by around 90% of the planet.

Source?
Donut Section, illegal immigrantion is a civil offense, not a criminal offense. And making racist threats about non-white people and wanting to torture immigrants is actionable.
HMS Barham wrote:murderous ideologies like communism.

Not a murderous ideology
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Puldania wrote:Technically only Spain is hkme to natives, since the basques were there before the indos.

Europe was made by Europeans

And immigrants
Ultramarr wrote:Japan by the Japanese

And Ainu
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New haven america wrote:1. I wasn't aware Europe became a country, when did this magical event happen?
2. Two things, First: Bloodline citizenship is stupid, and Second: I like how you ignore Canada and Australia, even though they claim that their immigration is more difficult that the US', while having similar population demographics as the US, so...

I mean most of Europe, England is for the English, France for the French and so on and you have the audacity to tell the Japanese and Europeans they have to let in masses of immigrants in their own ancestral lands that their people built.

Yes. Yes we do
Ultramarr wrote:Unlike the US they aren't "nations of immigrants"

Not true.
Ultramarr wrote:No ones deserves to be a minority in their country

So what w9uld say about the indigenous people of the Americas? Palestine?
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So let's see the data that this is actually happening.

It already happened in some places such as East London

Proof?
Also, East London =/= Europe
But it is true that the native European population is in decline.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:07 am

HMS Barham wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.

Please prove by own working that the earth is not flat.

I can do it. You probably cannot.

You know that doesn't matter one whit, right? We can see the curvature of the Earth. Take a flight on a clear day and look out the window.
HMS Barham wrote:The quote also needs a source, because the Ancient Greeks knew the earth wasn't flat.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:08 am

HMS Barham wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.

Please prove by own working that the earth is not flat.

I can do it. You probably cannot.


Please prove by your own working that there is not a fine bone china teapot orbiting the sun at L3.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:24 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Time to give Japan back to the Ainu, and Europe back to the Neaderthals

I approve.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:26 pm

HMS Barham wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.

Please prove by own working that the earth is not flat.

I can do it. You probably cannot.

If the earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything off of it.

But you're being strangely off topic right now.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:30 pm

HMS Barham wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.

Please prove by own working that the earth is not flat.

Why?

I can do it.

Cool.
You probably cannot.

Probably not. I expect that anything I could think of would be more remembering how someone else demonstrated the shape of the Earth than my own working.

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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:49 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
New haven america wrote:crap ton of money.

Which is why some immigrants come illegally.
Ultramarr wrote:I am not too sure about the US but in the UK we had similar propaganda about how British people are "lazy" and deserve to lose their jobs to migrants which isn't true. They are very lazy people mostly millennials it seems in the country but also very hard working people that work hard in harsh conditions for long hours such as steel mills and the same thing applies to immigrants they aren't all hard working as the media portrays some are very lazy and live off welfare while others work very hard for their families

You want people to stop making stereotypes about Brits, then make stereotypes about immigrants...hypocrisy much?
Puldania wrote:I give up.
Youre stupid

Don't say that.
But you're right, risking your life and being mistreated apparently isn't commitment. What Trumptonium said was beyond stupid. It was inconsiderate.
Ultramarr wrote:America is one thing Japan and Europe are old world nation states that belong to the native people

Time to give Japan back to the Ainu, and Europe back to the Neaderthals
Trumptonium wrote:
yet it's used by around 90% of the planet.

Source?
Donut Section, illegal immigrantion is a civil offense, not a criminal offense. And making racist threats about non-white people and wanting to torture immigrants is actionable.
HMS Barham wrote:murderous ideologies like communism.

Not a murderous ideology
Ultramarr wrote:Europe was made by Europeans

And immigrants
Ultramarr wrote:Japan by the Japanese

And Ainu
Ultramarr wrote:I mean most of Europe, England is for the English, France for the French and so on and you have the audacity to tell the Japanese and Europeans they have to let in masses of immigrants in their own ancestral lands that their people built.

Yes. Yes we do
Ultramarr wrote:Unlike the US they aren't "nations of immigrants"

Not true.
Ultramarr wrote:No ones deserves to be a minority in their country

So what w9uld say about the indigenous people of the Americas? Palestine?
Ultramarr wrote:It already happened in some places such as East London

Proof?
Also, East London =/= Europe
But it is true that the native European population is in decline.

The Ainus did very little to build Japanese civilisation or the nation which the Japanese people built, they lost thousands of years ago end of story. As for Palestine I support them because I am anti Israel and the natives have their reservations where they can live with their fellow tribes. The Neanderthals also existed outside of Europe too and they didn't build any nations. I said the stereotype on Brits isn't true same with the immigrants

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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:28 pm

Ultramarr wrote:The Neanderthals also existed outside of Europe too and they didn't build any nations.

Go ahead and prove that.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:52 pm

>didn't build any nations

What a disgustingly Euro-centric view of anthropology.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:23 pm

Given that for 99% or so of human history, we were nomadic, Neanderthals were very similar to humans, and that the Neanderthals went extinct well before humans stopped being nomads, it's likely that no, the Neanderthals did not form any nation as we see them today; nobody did, not even the contemporary humans. No nation would have formed until after the beginning of the Holocene epoch, and the first was likely the ancient city of Jericho in its first incarnation.

Vassenor wrote:>didn't build any nations

What a disgustingly Euro-centric view of anthropology.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:35 pm

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New haven america wrote:1. Then why do you feel the need to bring it up? :)
2. That's nice, to a large part of the population (Maybe even the slight majority) you're not Japanese, and you should be completely happy with this as they're just expressing their nationalistic pride. Or are you okay with people being ultra nationalist as long as it doesn't apply to you? In which case, you might want to look at #1 again...

1.most of them never claimed I am not Japanese they say I am Japanese as well a gaijin or foreigner at the same time. 2.You just think the Japanese think a certain way.3. As for when you say " Or are you okay with people being ultra nationalist as long as it doesn't apply to you?" what do you mean what doesn't apply to me?

1. That's nice, there's still a large part that doesn't think you are, and you should be happy with that.
2. I know they do, just look at the Ms. Japan controversy.
3. You're fine with people being ultra nationalistic and being unltra nationalistic yourself, except when affects you negativily. Like needing to fight any claim that there's a large number of Japanese people who don't think that you're Japanese, even though there are, and from how you've acted you should be happy with them believing that as Japan belongs to the Japanese, and you are not fully Japanese. With all the shit you've been spouting you should be happy with them thinking that, but you're not, cause it applies to you in a negative way. So now you're just gonna stick your fingures in your ears a screech "Lalalala" while still spouting your nationalist bullshit.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:1.most of them never claimed I am not Japanese they say I am Japanese as well a gaijin or foreigner at the same time. 2.You just think the Japanese think a certain way.3. As for when you say " Or are you okay with people being ultra nationalist as long as it doesn't apply to you?" what do you mean what doesn't apply to me?

1. That's nice, there's still a large part that doesn't think you are, and you should be happy with that.
2. I know they do, just look at the Ms. Japan controversy.
3. You're fine with people being ultra nationalistic and being unltra nationalistic yourself, except when affects you negativily. Like needing to fight any claim that there's a large number of Japanese people who don't think that you're Japanese, even though there are, and from how you've acted you should be happy with them believing that as Japan belongs to the Japanese, and you are not fully Japanese. With all the shit you've been spouting you should be happy with them thinking that, but you're not, cause it applies to you in a negative way. So now you're just gonna stick your fingures in your ears a screech "Lalalala" while still spouting your nationalist bullshit.

You might be sprouting your Marxist bullshit but I could care less. It hasn't affected me at all when I lived there and I don't care really. I would rather that some people don't consider me Japanese than for Japan to be a liberal dystopia with mass immigration

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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:52 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:The Neanderthals also existed outside of Europe too and they didn't build any nations.

Go ahead and prove that.

If you want disprove me oh you cant. There arent any pure neanderthfal civilisations around they arent techniquely homo sapiens or "human" either although most Europeans and Asians have Neathderfal blood in them

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:59 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Go ahead and prove that.

If you want disprove me oh you cant. There arent any pure neanderthfal civilisations around they arent techniquely homo sapiens or "human" either although most Europeans and Asians have Neathderfal blood in them


So how does that prove your point?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:If you want disprove me oh you cant. There arent any pure neanderthfal civilisations around they arent techniquely homo sapiens or "human" either although most Europeans and Asians have Neathderfal blood in them


So how does that prove your point?

Wait, the kid who was "outed" as an illegal immigrant was a Neanderthal? Or was it the kid who got expelled? Or did people just drift off topic?
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:04 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Go ahead and prove that.

If you want disprove me oh you cant. There arent any pure neanderthfal civilisations around they arent techniquely homo sapiens or "human" either although most Europeans and Asians have Neathderfal blood in them

Oh, is that the way the burden of proof works? The celestial teapot is now a confirmed fact.

There isn't much you could do to further damage your credibility at this point, but speaking with confidence about the social structure a human sub-species tens of thousands of years into pre-history, based on no evidence, is definitely a worthy effort. So kudos.

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Vassenor wrote:
So how does that prove your point?

Wait, the kid who was "outed" as an illegal immigrant was a Neanderthal? Or was it the kid who got expelled? Or did people just drift off topic?

Yeah, alright, I'll stop.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:09 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how does that prove your point?

Wait, the kid who was "outed" as an illegal immigrant was a Neanderthal? Or was it the kid who got expelled? Or did people just drift off topic?


Probably topic drift into generic anti-immigration rhetoric.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:22 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. That's nice, there's still a large part that doesn't think you are, and you should be happy with that.
2. I know they do, just look at the Ms. Japan controversy.
3. You're fine with people being ultra nationalistic and being unltra nationalistic yourself, except when affects you negativily. Like needing to fight any claim that there's a large number of Japanese people who don't think that you're Japanese, even though there are, and from how you've acted you should be happy with them believing that as Japan belongs to the Japanese, and you are not fully Japanese. With all the shit you've been spouting you should be happy with them thinking that, but you're not, cause it applies to you in a negative way. So now you're just gonna stick your fingures in your ears a screech "Lalalala" while still spouting your nationalist bullshit.

1.You might be sprouting your Marxist bullshit but I could care less.2. It hasn't affected me at all when I lived there and I don't care really. 3.I would rather that some people don't consider me Japanese than for Japan to be a liberal dystopia with mass immigration

1. Oh, not being able to come up with an actual argument and decides to use trigger words, how original. :roll:
2. That's nice, a lot still don't think you are, and I can't wait for you to run into one of them.
3. A. Japan is actually pretty liberal, and B. So you're fine with Japan's population falling into levels where it can't support itself economically and socially? I'm gonna take that as a yes.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:24 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:1.You might be sprouting your Marxist bullshit but I could care less.2. It hasn't affected me at all when I lived there and I don't care really. 3.I would rather that some people don't consider me Japanese than for Japan to be a liberal dystopia with mass immigration

1. Oh, not being able to come up with an actual argument and decides to use trigger words, how original. :roll:
2. That's nice, a lot still don't think you are, and I can't wait for you to run into one of them.
3. A. Japan is actually pretty liberal, and B. So you're fine with Japan's population falling into levels where it can't support itself economically and socially? I'm gonna take that as a yes.

I'm pretty sure Japan isn't exactly germane to this topic.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:50 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Which is why some immigrants come illegally.

You want people to stop making stereotypes about Brits, then make stereotypes about immigrants...hypocrisy much?

Don't say that.
But you're right, risking your life and being mistreated apparently isn't commitment. What Trumptonium said was beyond stupid. It was inconsiderate.

Time to give Japan back to the Ainu, and Europe back to the Neaderthals

Source?
Donut Section, illegal immigrantion is a civil offense, not a criminal offense. And making racist threats about non-white people and wanting to torture immigrants is actionable.

Not a murderous ideology

And immigrants

And Ainu

Yes. Yes we do

Not true.

So what w9uld say about the indigenous people of the Americas? Palestine?

Proof?
Also, East London =/= Europe
But it is true that the native European population is in decline.

The Ainus did very little to build Japanese civilisation or the nation which the Japanese people built, they lost thousands of years ago end of story. As for Palestine I support them because I am anti Israel and the natives have their reservations where they can live with their fellow tribes. The Neanderthals also existed outside of Europe too and they didn't build any nations. I said the stereotype on Brits isn't true same with the immigrants

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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. Oh, not being able to come up with an actual argument and decides to use trigger words, how original. :roll:
2. That's nice, a lot still don't think you are, and I can't wait for you to run into one of them.
3. A. Japan is actually pretty liberal, and B. So you're fine with Japan's population falling into levels where it can't support itself economically and socially? I'm gonna take that as a yes.

I'm pretty sure Japan isn't exactly germane to this topic.

Yes it is, as it's dealing with immigration and nationalism, two topics that have been heavily presented and discussed within this thread.

For example, Ultramarr (The very OP) believes that we should curb immigration and keep countries for the people who are legally in them (x for x, y for y, etc...), especially when it comes to the old world (Europe, Asia, Africa, etc...). Which directly relates to him thinking that the student in the OP of the thread did the right thing, he's keeping immigrants (Especially illegal immigrants) out of the country and Ultramarr thinks this is good. Which is ironic considering that a large part of nationalism from one side of his "cultures" doesn't accept him or immigrants, even though he supports said nationalism, which makes his arguments more hypocritical and nonsensical the more you look at them.

Now if you want us to back down cause it's getting heated, then I'll totally agree to that, but what we're discussing does relate to the thread.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:47 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No, that isn't why he was expelled. This is why:

This does prompt the question of whether or not schools can expel you for activities off-campus, such as being racist online.


Well, when he attacked a schoolmate, he made it the school's business. They school has to protects its students, doesn't it?

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Postby Katganistan » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:49 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:Damn, the kid is really disturbed.

The school should have given him actual psychological help, not just an expellment.


How? Do you imagine they have a team of psychologists? That they can force him to talk to one?

How else can they protect the rest of the student body, other than removing him?

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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:49 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:This does prompt the question of whether or not schools can expel you for activities off-campus, such as being racist online.


Well, when he attacked a schoolmate, he made it the school's business. They school has to protects its students, doesn't it?

Attacked? What do you mean by "attacked"?
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