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Postby Chestertoni » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:08 am

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Those still aren't crimes. If he disrupts class, I can see why they want him gone, but otherwise it's because they found a child to be saying doubleplusungood things


Right, and totally because it means he represents a threat to the safety of the ethnic minority members of the student body. :roll:


If he actually threatens a classmate, sure. If we're branding him an existential threat, that's hilarious.
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Postby Aellex » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:10 am

Vassenor wrote:Looks pretty densely White British to me.

And I recall asking for data, not assertions.

You're aware your own source is proving you wrong, right? Just look at the massive swathes of white and the fact that the dominating colour is mainly light orange.

You're providing good data to use against yourself. ;)
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:01 am

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Proctopeo wrote:This does prompt the question of whether or not schools can expel you for activities off-campus, such as being racist online.

Arguably so, if you consider it from the angle of risk management.

A bit of an exaggerated example, but suppose someone had a history of being violent everywhere but campus, you could argue that expelling the student is a preventative measure. Proactive, rather than reactive.

If someone has a history of "being violent everywhere but campus" they're supposed to be arrested, not expelled. Don't just let them out of school to re-offend elsewhere.

But what this kid does is covered under freedom of speech.
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Postby Painisia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:03 am

In which country did this happen in?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:29 am

Painisia wrote:In which country did this happen in?

The US
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:35 am

Ifreann wrote:I heard about this. Dude was gloating online about reporting his classmate. I have no objection to him getting expelled.

He does seem to be a rather unpleasant fellow, and we have too many of those in the world already.


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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:13 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Are you just going to ignore the fact that it wasn't just that which got him expelled? It was the extreme things that he was saying on reddit...

He seemed to have his crap reddit thing for a while it was only when he boasted about reporting the case he got kicked out


Well yea, he posted his own picture.

Someone called the school to let them know that he was an obnoxious little shit, the principal saw it, and they expelled him.

Nothing unusual here. Just some dumb kid pushing his luck too far. Maybe this will teach him not to post pictures on reddit if he's going to shit talk.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:19 am

frankly, I'm neither surprised nor do I feel sorry for the dude. he was being an asshole, he paid for it. didn't pay enough, if you ask me.
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Postby Painisia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Painisia wrote:In which country did this happen in?

The US

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Postby Trumptonium » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:21 am

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Ultramarr wrote:It already happened in some places such as East London


Looks pretty densely White British to me.

And I recall asking for data, not assertions.


are you absolutely blind you can't look at your own links?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:02 am

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Looks pretty densely White British to me.

And I recall asking for data, not assertions.


are you absolutely blind you can't look at your own links?


So what point are you trying to get at?
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Postby HMS Barham » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:05 am

You don't need sources for the fact that the non-British population is growing much faster than the British population (which is shrinking).
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Postby HMS Barham » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
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are you absolutely blind you can't look at your own links?


So what point are you trying to get at?

That your map clearly shows that almost all of London is over 50% recent immigrants, with large parts of it being close to 100%.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:14 am

HMS Barham wrote:You don't need sources for the fact that the non-British population is growing much faster than the British population (which is shrinking).

One can easily grok the demographics of a nation of millions without examining the actual numbers involved.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:18 am

HMS Barham wrote:You don't need sources for the fact that the non-British population is growing much faster than the British population (which is shrinking).


That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Until you prove it, it's not a fact.
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Postby HMS Barham » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:You don't need sources for the fact that the non-British population is growing much faster than the British population (which is shrinking).

One can easily grok the demographics of a nation of millions without examining the actual numbers involved.

Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:37 am

HMS Barham wrote:Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.

It's okay, we all understand. A fact-based worldview is inconvenient. Much better to use 'common sense' and 'everyone knows'. :)
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:40 am

HMS Barham wrote:Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.


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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:43 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.

It's okay, we all understand. A fact-based worldview is inconvenient. Much better to use 'common sense' and 'everyone knows'. :)

That's just common sense.

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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:45 am

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Ultramarr wrote:1. I am no snowflake. 2.Because I was sufficiently Japanese in behaviour and everything

1. Then why do you feel the need to bring it up? :)
2. That's nice, to a large part of the population (Maybe even the slight majority) you're not Japanese, and you should be completely happy with this as they're just expressing their nationalistic pride. Or are you okay with people being ultra nationalist as long as it doesn't apply to you? In which case, you might want to look at #1 again...

I actually lived in Japan for half my life and lived there and most of them never claimed I am not Japanese they say I am Japanese as well a gaijin or foreigner at the same time. You just think the Japanese think a certain way. As for when you say " Or are you okay with people being ultra nationalist as long as it doesn't apply to you?" what do you mean what doesn't apply to me?

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:48 am

HMS Barham wrote:
Ifreann wrote:One can easily grok the demographics of a nation of millions without examining the actual numbers involved.

Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.


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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.


"Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Just imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
"Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Just imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.


The point stands. "Everyone knows" doesn't automatically make a thing true.
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Postby HMS Barham » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:02 am

Des-Bal wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:Of course you need some quantitative sense - it's just in no way obscure. You might not know the exact number of new immigrants since 1990, but everyone knows it's a lot, and it's enough to be noticeable in most places. It's just in no way unreasonable to accept that if this trend continues indefinitely, the British will be a minority in Britain. You might think that it will happen in 5 years or 145 years, and in both cases you'd be wrong because it's somewhere in between, but whether it is 5, 45, or 145 years is far from the key point here.

Vassenor demands sources just to waste the other poster's time and claim some kind of moral ascendancy in that if the other poster doesn't consent to so waste his time, he is supposedly conceding something to Vassenor. It's a tactic that requires no effort or knowledge and can be rolled out in absolutely any discussion against absolutely anything Vassenor finds disagreeable, true or false. It's a totally idiotic practice that proves nothing at all.


If the rain continues indefinitely the world will flood.

You can't simultaneously complain that it is unreasonable to extrapolate current immigration trends and also argue for continuing and expanding immigration. If you believe that the trend will stop due to a right wing crackdown on immigration, and that that is desirable, fine.
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Postby HMS Barham » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
"Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Just imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

Damn it, K, people didn't think the Earth was flat 500 years ago.

Please prove by own working that the earth is not flat.

I can do it. You probably cannot.
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