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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:25 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Oh look someone has a Nazi style flag.

And no, it was afaik in a Saunctuary City/Sanctuary State-if he knew that, then he was a fucking asshole who got what he deserved.

That's isn't a Nazi flag and looking at all these horrible communist flag his flag isn't bad. Also his reddit might not be nice but reporting an illegal he did nothing wrong there


So you're still ignoring all the threatening torture stuff. Good to know.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:27 am

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Ultramarr wrote:That's isn't a Nazi flag and looking at all these horrible communist flag his flag isn't bad. Also his reddit might not be nice but reporting an illegal he did nothing wrong there


So you're still ignoring all the threatening torture stuff. Good to know.

I said his reddit is bad which was the torture stuff. I said the reporting part isn't bad if anything he helped the law enforcements and did a good thing on that bit

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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:37 am

Ultramarr wrote:Yes nation is defined by its people which is something you get from blood although obviously some foreign people can be became citizens in some cases like adoptions happening in a family. Japan is Japanese because the inhabitants are Japanese for example


The entire PURPOSE of a nation is that it is a cultural group which supercedes race, religion, and any other cultural group. You are part of a nation simply because you live within the boundaries of the state.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:41 am

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So you're still ignoring all the threatening torture stuff. Good to know.

I said his reddit is bad which was the torture stuff. I said the reporting part isn't bad if anything he helped the law enforcements and did a good thing on that bit


And you still haven't proved that he was expelled for the reporting thing.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:42 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:Yes nation is defined by its people which is something you get from blood although obviously some foreign people can be became citizens in some cases like adoptions happening in a family. Japan is Japanese because the inhabitants are Japanese for example


The entire PURPOSE of a nation is that it is a cultural group which supercedes race, religion, and any other cultural group. You are part of a nation simply because you live within the boundaries of the state.

I am Japanese and English by my ancestral blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvBeASOZ0Q
Its a bit like how she explains it

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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:42 am

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New haven america wrote:1. I wasn't aware Europe became a country, when did this magical event happen?
2. Two things, First: Bloodline citizenship is stupid, and Second: I like how you ignore Canada and Australia, even though they claim that their immigration is more difficult that the US', while having similar population demographics as the US, so...

you have the audacity to tell the Japanese and Europeans they have to let in masses of immigrants in their own ancestral lands

Yes, because nationalism and bloodline citizenship are stupid and dangerous. (European countries should be more than aware about what nationalism can do...)

You do know most European nations and Japan aren't meeting their replacement levels right? Their populations are shrinking and unless they start rising (Which won't happen without immigration) then they're going to suffer both economically and socially.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:43 am

Ultramarr wrote:I am Japanese and English by my ancestral blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvBeASOZ0Q
Its a bit like how she explains it


I'm not watching your video. Inability to explain your ideas is a telltale sign that they are not well thought out.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:46 am

New haven america wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:you have the audacity to tell the Japanese and Europeans they have to let in masses of immigrants in their own ancestral lands

Yes, because nationalism and bloodline citizenship are stupid and dangerous. (European countries should be more than aware about what nationalism can do...)

You do know most European nations and Japan aren't meeting their replacement levels right? Their populations are shrinking and unless they start rising (Which won't happen without immigration) then they're going to suffer both economically and socially.

European countries should look back to their golden days when we had massive empires, more culture and nationalism. As for Japan the country with the biggest population decline it will take around 600 years for the population to disappear and populations fluctuate Japan had famines and plagues then mass births during prosperous eras in the past like most countries. Besides the worse possible time to let in mass immigration is when the population is low as the people will be replaced by the migrants from the 3rd world. I like Japan because its Japanese and I like Europe because its European

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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:46 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
The entire PURPOSE of a nation is that it is a cultural group which supercedes race, religion, and any other cultural group. You are part of a nation simply because you live within the boundaries of the state.

I am Japanese and English by my ancestral blood.

You are aware a decent chunk of Japanese would disagree, right?
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:47 am

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Ultramarr wrote:I am Japanese and English by my ancestral blood.

You are aware a decent chunk of Japanese would disagree, right?

I spent half my life there. And I would say hafus are considered half foreign but not foreign either.

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Postby Chestertoni » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:48 am

The New California Republic wrote:No, that isn't why he was expelled. This is why:
Cory had an active Reddit account that often posted the n-word, fantasized about torturing immigrants, and bemoaned how white women sleep with people of color. Yesterday he posted a photo of himself to a Donald Trump-supporting subreddit and bragged about how he reported one of his classmates to ICE.


Those still aren't crimes. If he disrupts class, I can see why they want him gone, but otherwise it's because they found a child to be saying doubleplusungood things

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:49 am

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The New California Republic wrote:No, that isn't why he was expelled. This is why:


Those still aren't crimes. If he disrupts class, I can see why they want him gone, but otherwise it's because they found a child to be saying doubleplusungood things


Right, and totally because it means he represents a threat to the safety of the ethnic minority members of the student body. :roll:
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:49 am

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Ultramarr wrote:I am Japanese and English by my ancestral blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvBeASOZ0Q
Its a bit like how she explains it


I'm not watching your video. Inability to explain your ideas is a telltale sign that they are not well thought out.

I did explain my ideas maybe you cannot get understand them. I am not going to take a communist seriosuly

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:50 am

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New haven america wrote:Yes, because nationalism and bloodline citizenship are stupid and dangerous. (European countries should be more than aware about what nationalism can do...)

You do know most European nations and Japan aren't meeting their replacement levels right? Their populations are shrinking and unless they start rising (Which won't happen without immigration) then they're going to suffer both economically and socially.

European countries should look back to their golden days when we had massive empires, more culture and nationalism. As for Japan the country with the biggest population decline it will take around 600 years for the population to disappear and populations fluctuate Japan had famines and plagues then mass births during prosperous eras in the past like most countries. Besides the worse possible time to let in mass immigration is when the population is low as the people will be replaced by the migrants from the 3rd world. I like Japan because its Japanese and I like Europe because its European


Oh wow, are we doing the "well this data extrapolation proves that Europe will be majority non-white within a generation" thing again?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:51 am

Ultramarr wrote:
New haven america wrote:You are aware a decent chunk of Japanese would disagree, right?

I spent half my life there. And I would say hafus are considered half foreign but not foreign either.

That's nice, to a lot of them you're not and will never be Japanese, and you should be completely fine with this as they're just expressing their nationalistic pride.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:52 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:European countries should look back to their golden days when we had massive empires, more culture and nationalism. As for Japan the country with the biggest population decline it will take around 600 years for the population to disappear and populations fluctuate Japan had famines and plagues then mass births during prosperous eras in the past like most countries. Besides the worse possible time to let in mass immigration is when the population is low as the people will be replaced by the migrants from the 3rd world. I like Japan because its Japanese and I like Europe because its European


Oh wow, are we doing the "well this data extrapolation proves that Europe will be majority non-white within a generation" thing again?

Yes I like Europe because its European same way I like Japan because its Japanese. No ones deserves to be a minority in their country

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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:52 am

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Ultramarr wrote:European countries should look back to their golden days when we had massive empires, more culture and nationalism. As for Japan the country with the biggest population decline it will take around 600 years for the population to disappear and populations fluctuate Japan had famines and plagues then mass births during prosperous eras in the past like most countries. Besides the worse possible time to let in mass immigration is when the population is low as the people will be replaced by the migrants from the 3rd world. I like Japan because its Japanese and I like Europe because its European


Oh wow, are we doing the "well this data extrapolation proves that Europe will be majority non-white within a generation" thing again?

It's also funny considering over half of Europe didn't used to be considered white, just gotta keep expanding those definitions...
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:52 am

New haven america wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh wow, are we doing the "well this data extrapolation proves that Europe will be majority non-white within a generation" thing again?

It's also funny considering over half of Europe didn't used to be considered white, just gotta keep expanding those definitions...

It was only Venessa tat brought up the "white" thing

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:52 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh wow, are we doing the "well this data extrapolation proves that Europe will be majority non-white within a generation" thing again?

Yes I like Europe because its European same way I like Japan because its Japanese. No ones deserves to be a minority in their country


So let's see the data that this is actually happening.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:54 am

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Ultramarr wrote:I spent half my life there. And I would say hafus are considered half foreign but not foreign either.

That's nice, to a lot of them you're not and will never be Japanese, and you should be completely fine with this as they're just expressing their nationalistic pride.

I don't care I am no snowflake. Because I was sufficiently Japanese in behaviour and everything their when talking about Japan and that I would be refered to as "us" by the people I knew but when talking about the English for example I would be one of "them" as well. Not exactly like a foreigner if your a hafu or maybe that was just my experience

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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:55 am

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Ultramarr wrote:Yes I like Europe because its European same way I like Japan because its Japanese. No ones deserves to be a minority in their country


So let's see the data that this is actually happening.

It already happened in some places such as East London

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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:01 am

Ultramarr wrote:I did explain my ideas maybe you cannot get understand them. I am not going to take a communist seriosuly

You didn't and I can't, hence my call for clarification. There is no need for a collective identity beyond the national identity and there is no need for restriction on that national identity except for the state in which you live.

You should not dismiss someone because they subscribe to a different school of thought. That said, I am, in essence, the exact opposite of a communist.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:01 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So let's see the data that this is actually happening.

It already happened in some places such as East London


Looks pretty densely White British to me.

And I recall asking for data, not assertions.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:01 am

Ultramarr wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's nice, to a lot of them you're not and will never be Japanese, and you should be completely fine with this as they're just expressing their nationalistic pride.

1. I am no snowflake. 2.Because I was sufficiently Japanese in behaviour and everything

1. Then why do you feel the need to bring it up? :)
2. That's nice, to a large part of the population (Maybe even the slight majority) you're not Japanese, and you should be completely happy with this as they're just expressing their nationalistic pride. Or are you okay with people being ultra nationalist as long as it doesn't apply to you? In which case, you might want to look at #1 again...
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Postby Aellex » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:04 am

New haven america wrote:It's also funny considering over half of Europe didn't used to be considered white, just gotta keep expanding those definitions...

What are you talking about ?
All of Europe was always considered white, just "not the right kind" of white.
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