Pupil seemingly expelled for reporting illegal immigrant

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I seriously dont understand your reasoning. Explain how someone going to school is violent. Like who is being physically harmed? How are they being physically harmed? What physical harm is being inflicted? Cite a specific example of who was physically harmed in this example. Do you know what violence is?

Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

Right, so you don't know what violence is. Thanks for confirming that.

[Donut section]

Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

That's a pretty fucking awful definition of violence. At least stick to the theft analogy. Jeez.

So no counterpoint then?

[New Genoa]

Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

Right, so you don't know what violence is. Thanks for confirming that.

The Libertarian definition of violence is so wacky I don't even know how they begin to justify it.

[New Genoa]

That's a pretty fucking awful definition of violence. At least stick to the theft analogy. Jeez.

So no counterpoint then?

Violence involves direct, physical harm. You're just bitching because you didn't get to keep a few more tax dollars. Which again, is frivolous.

[Donut section]

Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

Right, so you don't know what violence is. Thanks for confirming that.

How does the theft of someone's life not equate to violence?

[Donut section]

So no counterpoint then?

Violence involves direct, physical harm. You're just bitching because you didn't get to keep a few more tax dollars. Which again, is frivolous.

Actually no violence involves actions that which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation.

Having attended the school he has used resources which came at a cost of someone else's life. He has literally deprived them of themselves.

[New Genoa]

Violence involves direct, physical harm. You're just bitching because you didn't get to keep a few more tax dollars. Which again, is frivolous.

Actually no violence involves actions that which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation.

Having attended the school he has used resources which came at a cost of someone else's life. He has literally deprived them of themselves.

So then allowing violent ideologies to continue to exist (such as racism) would be considered an act of violence by your definition. Because it will result in a high likelihood of "injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation" ? Would you agree with that?

[Donut section]

Actually no violence involves actions that which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation.

Having attended the school he has used resources which came at a cost of someone else's life. He has literally deprived them of themselves.

So then allowing violent ideologies to continue to exist (such as racism) would be considered an act of violence by your definition. Because it will result in a high likelihood of "injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation" ? Would you agree with that?

You're going to have to prove that either this kid intended harm, or that having shitty views has a high likelihood of violent actions.

[HMS Barham]

Actually no violence involves actions that which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation.

Having attended the school he has used resources which came at a cost of someone else's life. He has literally deprived them of themselves.

So then allowing violent ideologies to continue to exist (such as racism) would be considered an act of violence by your definition. Because it will result in a high likelihood of "injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation" ? Would you agree with that?

What he is saying is that stealing someone's money is stealing their labour time, i.e. slavery. Stealing someone's earned wealth enslaves them for that part of their life they spent earning that money.

[HMS Barham]

So then allowing violent ideologies to continue to exist (such as racism) would be considered an act of violence by your definition. Because it will result in a high likelihood of "injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation" ? Would you agree with that?

You're going to have to prove that either this kid intended harm, or that having shitty views has a high likelihood of violent actions.

Plenty of people adhere to murderous ideologies like communism without being kicked out of school.

If it was a government school, imposing bans based on ideology effectively establishes a state religion in the USA.

[New Genoa]

So then allowing violent ideologies to continue to exist (such as racism) would be considered an act of violence by your definition. Because it will result in a high likelihood of "injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation" ? Would you agree with that?

You're going to have to prove that either this kid intended harm, or that having shitty views has a high likelihood of violent actions.

[Camicon]

Right, so you don't know what violence is. Thanks for confirming that.

How does the theft of someone's life not equate to violence?

A few things...

Theft is stealing someone's property, not their life. There is nothing inherently violent about theft.

Now, undocumented people going to public school are no more "stealing" taxpayer money than a student who was born in the US. Students don't pay taxes, so if you want to consider whether or not a student is "stealing" taxpayer money you have to look at the taxes being contributed by their parents. And even if an undocumented student's parents were not taxpayers, said student is no more "thief" than a native-born student whose parents are simply poor.

In any event, if you want to be ideologically consistent then you should be applauding undocumented students who "steal" taxes. If theft is violent and "taking someone's life", and taxation is theft, then refusing to pay taxes is self-defence and moral.

[Donut section]

You're going to have to prove that either this kid intended harm, or that having shitty views has a high likelihood of violent actions.

None of that shows intentions or even preparation. Just stupid violent ideation that you can find anywhere. While I would say this kid needs therapy it's of no difference to what you would find in someone stuck in a traffic jam, except in scale.

[New haven america]

I seriously dont understand your reasoning. Explain how someone going to school is violent. Like who is being physically harmed? How are they being physically harmed? What physical harm is being inflicted? Cite a specific example of who was physically harmed in this example. Do you know what violence is?

Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

Well, considering the US and most countries in the world use tax money to house, cloth, and feed millions of criminals in jail and prison, all I can say is that your analogy sucks at best.

[Donut section]

Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

Well, considering the US and most countries in the world use tax money to house, cloth, and feed millions of criminals in jail and prison, all I can say is that your analogy sucks at best.

Hey don't even get me started on paying off your prison time.

[The Rich Port]

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And also, people aren't usually dumb enough to post it on the Internet where EVERYBODY can read it.

[Donut section]

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And also, people aren't usually dumb enough to post it on the Internet where EVERYBODY can read it.

Hey I'm not saying he's smart.

[Des-Bal]

None of that shows intentions or even preparation. Just stupid violent ideation that you can find anywhere. While I would say this kid needs therapy it's of no difference to what you would find in someone stuck in a traffic jam, except in scale.

Or you know fucking NSG. I wouldn't flinch if you told me that a post was from a thread here. Every single time there's a thread about a rapist or someone who did something to a child that's the exact kind of thing that gets posted, often without so much as a warning. What was that even in reference to? We don't know because presenting a full picture is not in the interests of media now that every news outlet is basically a blog and the account was deleted.

[New haven america]

Well, considering the US and most countries in the world use tax money to house, cloth, and feed millions of criminals in jail and prison, all I can say is that your analogy sucks at best.

Hey don't even get me started on paying off your prison time.

Oh please, prison's too good a punishment for my crimes.

[Vassenor]

Pretty sure corporate tax evasion steals far more money from the government than one undocumented migrant attending school so they can contribute to society.

[Shaggtopia]

Pretty sure corporate tax evasion steals far more money from the government than one undocumented migrant attending school so they can contribute to society.

PREACH!!!

So what exactly is this trend with immigration discourse? A student was expelled for expelling another student. Personally, I don't see what the problem is. The American School System taught those children a valuable lesson, it taught the immigrant "fuck you, got mine." And it taught the native "snitches get stitches." the effects of these lessons on the individuals involved remains to be seen. Would have hopped we'd be past this as a species by now but humanity is nothing if not flawed in a beautiful way. Actually give everyone a fishing pole and a free ride to Trash Island, Let social Darwinism run it's course (survive as a group or die.)

[Ultramarr]

America is one thing Japan and Europe are old world nation states that belong to the native people

Technically only Spain is hkme to natives, since the basques were there before the indos.

Europe was made by Europeans, Japan by the Japanese and it belongs to them. Spain is Castilian mainly.

[Ultramarr]

America is one thing Japan and Europe are old world nation states that belong to the native people

This is what's telling about your stance, you base who should be a citizen based on blood and ancestry instead of loyalty to the nation or hard work.

Yes nation is defined by its people which is something you get from blood although obviously some foreign people can be became citizens in some cases like adoptions happening in a family. Japan is Japanese because the inhabitants are Japanese for example

[Ultramarr]

America is one thing Japan and Europe are old world nation states that belong to the native people

1. I wasn't aware Europe became a country, when did this magical event happen?
2. Two things, First: Bloodline citizenship is stupid, and Second: I like how you ignore Canada and Australia, even though they claim that their immigration is more difficult that the US', while having similar population demographics as the US, so...

I mean most of Europe, England is for the English, France for the French and so on and you have the audacity to tell the Japanese and Europeans they have to let in masses of immigrants in their own ancestral lands that their people built. Unlike the US they aren't "nations of immigrants"

[Ultramarr]

So he was doing his job as an American citizen, and he got punished

Oh look someone has a Nazi style flag.

And no, it was afaik in a Saunctuary City/Sanctuary State-if he knew that, then he was a fucking asshole who got what he deserved.

That's isn't a Nazi flag and looking at all these horrible communist flag his flag isn't bad. Also his reddit might not be nice but reporting an illegal he did nothing wrong there