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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:56 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Donut section wrote:So I'm not really surprised that people think it's ok to expel this kid for wrong think. And it's only less saddening that they claimed it was for doing his duty as a responsible citizen.

He sort of was doing it just because he hated immigrants and people not of his skin color, and openly defamed the immigrant online.
There's something called malevolent intent and malevolent desire.


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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:17 pm

Sounds like the kid was a douche. Seems people here have less of a problem with racist assholes than a harmless illegal immigrant. Don't understand why.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:18 pm

New Genoa wrote:Sounds like the kid was a douche. Seems people here have less of a problem with racist assholes than a harmless illegal immigrant. Don't understand why.


Because ones a shitty kid and the other is a criminal.

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:32 pm

Donut section wrote:
New Genoa wrote:Sounds like the kid was a douche. Seems people here have less of a problem with racist assholes than a harmless illegal immigrant. Don't understand why.


Because ones a shitty kid and the other is a criminal.


It's not a crime to be in the country illegally, though. It's a civil offense if I remember correctly. The "criminal" isn't doing anything that negatively affects me or anyone really. Racist douchebags on other hand have been responsible for far worse things historically speaking.
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Postby Camicon » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:32 pm

Donut section wrote:
New Genoa wrote:Sounds like the kid was a douche. Seems people here have less of a problem with racist assholes than a harmless illegal immigrant. Don't understand why.


Because ones a shitty kid and the other is a criminal.

I hope you're consistent in that view when it comes to civil offences.

Ever been caught by a speed-on-green camera? Criminal.

Ever jaywalked? Criminal.

Ever thrown trash at a bin, missed, and not picked it up to put it in? Criminal.
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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:36 pm

Camicon wrote:
Donut section wrote:
Because ones a shitty kid and the other is a criminal.

I hope you're consistent in that view when it comes to civil offences.

Ever been caught by a speed-on-green camera? Criminal.

Ever jaywalked? Criminal.

Ever thrown trash at a bin, missed, and not picked it up to put it in? Criminal.


The fact that they draw the line at immigration is telling really. Even if said person holding those views isnt personally an out and out bigot. Just a strange standard.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:38 pm

New Genoa wrote:
Donut section wrote:
Because ones a shitty kid and the other is a criminal.


It's not a crime to be in the country illegally, though. It's a civil offense if I remember correctly. The "criminal" isn't doing anything that negatively affects me or anyone really. Racist douchebags on other hand have been responsible for far worse things historically speaking.


Crossing the border is.
was the immigrant in school? Then they were definitely doing things that negatively affects people. Stealing their tax money to fund its own education.

Meanwhile this kid was expressing his views perfectly legally outside of the schools jurisdiction.

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:41 pm

Donut section wrote:
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It's not a crime to be in the country illegally, though. It's a civil offense if I remember correctly. The "criminal" isn't doing anything that negatively affects me or anyone really. Racist douchebags on other hand have been responsible for far worse things historically speaking.


Crossing the border is.
was the immigrant in school? Then they were definitely doing things that negatively affects people. Stealing their tax money to fund its own education.

Meanwhile this kid was expressing his views perfectly legally outside of the schools jurisdiction.


"It". Good to know where you stand. The fact is that there are citizens who do shitty things and we'd be all better off if they werent in the country. But the line is drawn if they're an immigrant because reasons.
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Postby Camicon » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:41 pm

Donut section wrote:
New Genoa wrote:
It's not a crime to be in the country illegally, though. It's a civil offense if I remember correctly. The "criminal" isn't doing anything that negatively affects me or anyone really. Racist douchebags on other hand have been responsible for far worse things historically speaking.


Crossing the border is.
was the immigrant in school? Then they were definitely doing things that negatively affects people. Stealing their tax money to fund its own education.

Meanwhile this kid was expressing his views perfectly legally outside of the schools jurisdiction.

Kids pay taxes now? Wow, the US is more fucked than I thought.

And no, harassing another student, whether inside school property or hours of operation or not, is unacceptable behaviour and the school has the right to reprimand students who do so.
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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:42 pm

Camicon wrote:
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Crossing the border is.
was the immigrant in school? Then they were definitely doing things that negatively affects people. Stealing their tax money to fund its own education.

Meanwhile this kid was expressing his views perfectly legally outside of the schools jurisdiction.

Kids pay taxes now? Wow, the US is more fucked than I thought.

And no, harassing another student, whether inside school property or hours of operation or not, is unacceptable behaviour and the school has the right to reprimand students who do so.


Its okay if they're immigrants, you know. We need more shitty legal people and less not shitty "illegal" people. Because reasons. It'd be better if we had more Nazis, so long as they filled out the proper paperwork. Gotta have real priorities.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:47 pm

Camicon wrote:
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Crossing the border is.
was the immigrant in school? Then they were definitely doing things that negatively affects people. Stealing their tax money to fund its own education.

Meanwhile this kid was expressing his views perfectly legally outside of the schools jurisdiction.

Kids pay taxes now? Wow, the US is more fucked than I thought.

And no, harassing another student, whether inside school property or hours of operation or not, is unacceptable behaviour and the school has the right to reprimand students who do so.


No citizens pay taxes that the criminal was using.

Did the criminal know he made these posts?

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:57 pm

Donut section wrote:
Camicon wrote:Kids pay taxes now? Wow, the US is more fucked than I thought.

And no, harassing another student, whether inside school property or hours of operation or not, is unacceptable behaviour and the school has the right to reprimand students who do so.


No citizens pay taxes that the criminal was using.

Did the criminal know he made these posts?


The fact that you are more okay with a deranged racist than an illegal immigrant because of the circumstances of their birth is telling. Why should my tax dollars go to funding the racist's education instead of the immigrant?
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Postby Camicon » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:57 pm

Donut section wrote:
Camicon wrote:Kids pay taxes now? Wow, the US is more fucked than I thought.

And no, harassing another student, whether inside school property or hours of operation or not, is unacceptable behaviour and the school has the right to reprimand students who do so.


No citizens pay taxes that the criminal was using.

Did the criminal know he made these posts?

No, tax paying residents pay taxes that the student was using, same as almost every other student in that school, regardless of whether or not they were born in the US. And you don't have to be a citizen or documented immigrant to pay taxes.

And whether or not the student was aware of those social media posts is irrelevant, because other students were.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:00 pm

Camicon wrote:
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No citizens pay taxes that the criminal was using.

Did the criminal know he made these posts?

No, tax paying residents pay taxes that the student was using, same as almost every other student in that school, regardless of whether or not they were born in the US. And you don't have to be a citizen or documented immigrant to pay taxes.

And whether or not the student was aware of those social media posts is irrelevant, because other students were.


So you are saying that the criminal was hurting more people?

So you admit it wasn't harassment then?

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:01 pm

Donut section wrote:
Camicon wrote:No, tax paying residents pay taxes that the student was using, same as almost every other student in that school, regardless of whether or not they were born in the US. And you don't have to be a citizen or documented immigrant to pay taxes.

And whether or not the student was aware of those social media posts is irrelevant, because other students were.


So you are saying that the criminal was hurting more people?

So you admit it wasn't harassment then?


How were they hurting people?
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:02 pm

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So you are saying that the criminal was hurting more people?

So you admit it wasn't harassment then?


How were they hurting people?


Using tax money he wasn't entitled to.

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:04 pm

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How were they hurting people?


Using tax money he wasn't entitled to.


Seems frivolous to me, given the circumstances. That and you assume they won't ever use that education to put more back into society.
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Postby Camicon » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:05 pm

Donut section wrote:
Camicon wrote:No, tax paying residents pay taxes that the student was using, same as almost every other student in that school, regardless of whether or not they were born in the US. And you don't have to be a citizen or documented immigrant to pay taxes.

And whether or not the student was aware of those social media posts is irrelevant, because other students were.


So you are saying that the criminal was hurting more people?

So you admit it wasn't harassment then?

Can you not read?

The undocumented student was no more "stealing taxes" than any other student.

And whether or not the target of the harassment was aware of the harassment does not absolve the harasser of anything.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:06 pm

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Using tax money he wasn't entitled to.


Seems frivolous to me, given the circumstances. That and you assume they won't ever use that education to put more back into society.


Seems violent to me. And the only way he should be putting that education to use is paying off his own deportation costs, from whichever country he comes from.
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Seems frivolous to me, given the circumstances. That and you assume they won't ever use that education to put more back into society.


Seems violent to me. And the only way he should be putting that education to use is paying off his own deportation costs.


What part of going to school is violent, man. Come on, seriously. You've got a kid advocating beating up immigrants and you're calling the immigrant the violent one. The fuck is going on with the right in this country.
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:09 pm

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Seems violent to me. And the only way he should be putting that education to use is paying off his own deportation costs.


What part of going to school is violent, man. Come on, seriously. You've got a kid advocating beating up immigrants and you're calling the immigrant the violent one. The fuck is going on with the right in this country.


The fact that you have to spend your life earning the money for them to steal.

What's going on with the left when the lives of your friends and family is worth less than a criminal?

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:12 pm

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What part of going to school is violent, man. Come on, seriously. You've got a kid advocating beating up immigrants and you're calling the immigrant the violent one. The fuck is going on with the right in this country.


The fact that you have to spend your life earning the money for them to steal.

What's going on with the left when the lives of your friends and family is worth less than a criminal?


I seriously dont understand your reasoning. Explain how someone going to school is violent. Like who is being physically harmed? How are they being physically harmed? What physical harm is being inflicted? Cite a specific example of who was physically harmed in this example. Do you know what violence is?

Hypothetical question: would you be more okay with an upsurge in Nazism in the country if the adherents were all legally born here over an upsurge of immigrants?
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Postby Donut section » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:18 pm

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The fact that you have to spend your life earning the money for them to steal.

What's going on with the left when the lives of your friends and family is worth less than a criminal?


I seriously dont understand your reasoning. Explain how someone going to school is violent. Like who is being physically harmed? How are they being physically harmed? What physical harm is being inflicted? Cite a specific example of who was physically harmed in this example. Do you know what violence is?



Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?

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Postby New Genoa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:19 pm

Donut section wrote:
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I seriously dont understand your reasoning. Explain how someone going to school is violent. Like who is being physically harmed? How are they being physically harmed? What physical harm is being inflicted? Cite a specific example of who was physically harmed in this example. Do you know what violence is?



Have you ever worked? Giving away hours of your life to earn money?
Then had that money taken to fund a school. The total funding of that school can be represented by the amount of human life used to earn the money.
Now if someone reduced your life by the amount it cost to educate the criminal would you not call that violent?


That's a pretty fucking awful definition of violence. At least stick to the theft analogy. Jeez.

And by that analogy, having money going to the cost to educate a Nazi is FAR worse.
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