This is what's telling about your stance, you base who should be a citizen based on blood and ancestry instead of loyalty to the nation or hard work.
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by Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:59 pm

by New haven america » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:28 pm
Ultramarr wrote:New haven america wrote:You are aware that you can't get US government assistance unless your a registered citizen, right? Most illegal immigrants in the US are forced to do hard work because the have no safety net to fall back on.
With just that one sentence your argument falls completely apart.
You illiterate I was talking about stuff going on in the UK

by Vassenor » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:31 pm
Korvale wrote:The child did nothing wrong except not report the illegal immigant anonymously.

by New haven america » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:33 pm

by Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:44 pm



by Vassenor » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:51 pm

by Des-Bal » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:41 pm
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos


by Farnhamia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:54 pm
Trumptonium wrote:Wtf is a bamboo shoot?

by Trumptonium » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:56 pm
New haven america wrote:First: Bloodline citizenship is stupid,
New haven america wrote:and Second: I like how you ignore Canada and Australia, even though they claim that their immigration is more difficult that the US', while having similar population demographics as the US, so...

by Des-Bal » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:57 pm
Trumptonium wrote:Wtf is a bamboo shoot?
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos

by Trumptonium » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:58 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Trumptonium wrote:Wtf is a bamboo shoot?
A young bamboo plant. They were thinking of the bamboo torture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_torture

by HMS Barham » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:59 pm
Ultramarr wrote:A pupil who followed reported an illegal immigrant was expelled for reporting the illegal immigrant. Political correctness taken too far? Do you think the school abused its power? I just saw this on youtube and it had me wondering. He seem to had a racist reddit account but it was reporting an illegal that got him in trouble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ynTvYGNJE

by Vassenor » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:00 pm
Sperio wrote:So he was doing his job as an American citizen, and he got punished

by Trumptonium » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:06 pm
HMS Barham wrote:Ultramarr wrote:A pupil who followed reported an illegal immigrant was expelled for reporting the illegal immigrant. Political correctness taken too far? Do you think the school abused its power? I just saw this on youtube and it had me wondering. He seem to had a racist reddit account but it was reporting an illegal that got him in trouble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ynTvYGNJE
It's not called illegal immigration, it's called undocumented immigration, reflecting the fact that it is not illegal. Just because it is against the law does not make it illegal. The enforcing arms can decide what is legal or illegal on their own by appeal to their own shared moral fads. That is who we are.

by Aureumterra » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:06 pm
HMS Barham wrote:Ultramarr wrote:A pupil who followed reported an illegal immigrant was expelled for reporting the illegal immigrant. Political correctness taken too far? Do you think the school abused its power? I just saw this on youtube and it had me wondering. He seem to had a racist reddit account but it was reporting an illegal that got him in trouble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ynTvYGNJE
It's not called illegal immigration, it's called undocumented immigration, reflecting the fact that it is not illegal. Just because it is against the law does not make it illegal. The enforcing arms can decide what is legal or illegal on their own by appeal to their own shared moral fads. That is who we are.

by Farnhamia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:11 pm
Aureumterra wrote:HMS Barham wrote:It's not called illegal immigration, it's called undocumented immigration, reflecting the fact that it is not illegal. Just because it is against the law does not make it illegal. The enforcing arms can decide what is legal or illegal on their own by appeal to their own shared moral fads. That is who we are.
What kind of world are we in where breaking the law is not illegal?

by HMS Barham » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:12 pm
Trumptonium wrote:HMS Barham wrote:It's not called illegal immigration, it's called undocumented immigration, reflecting the fact that it is not illegal. Just because it is against the law does not make it illegal. The enforcing arms can decide what is legal or illegal on their own by appeal to their own shared moral fads. That is who we are.
calling it illegal immigration is ubiquitous in us political discourse and in uk law. the home office fines "2500 for each illegal immigrant" found as a stowaway in a truck

by New haven america » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:34 pm
Trumptonium wrote:New haven america wrote:First: Bloodline citizenship is stupid,
1.yet it's used by around 90% of the planetNew haven america wrote:and Second: I like how you ignore Canada and Australia, even though they claim that their immigration is more difficult that the US', while having similar population demographics as the US, so...
2. australia and canada have far fewer low-skilled and culturally reprehensible immigrants than the US, though.
3. part of the inherent nature of the canadian and australian skills-based migration is that the type of people who are derided in the US wouldn't be able to get in ... so effectively it's the same thing but you're hiding your prejudice under the veil of a skills or education threshold
4. new zealand even more so. think the average migrant has a bachelor degree.

by HMS Barham » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:40 pm
New haven america wrote:3. Uh, false. Canada is actually trying to get Mexican immigrants that would usually go to the US to go to Canada. Yet again, job needs that it's population is incapable of supporting.
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