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Postby Aellex » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:13 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Illegal immigration or overstay = GTFO

Illegal immigration + we'll find a way for you to get legalized without sending you back

How about "lol no"?
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:14 pm

Aellex wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Illegal immigration + we'll find a way for you to get legalized without sending you back

How about "lol no"?

Again making an issue out of nothing.
What's it like to want to throw away money and manpower over a non-issue?
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Postby Aellex » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:16 pm

Genivaria wrote:Again making an issue out of nothing.
What's it like to want to throw away money and manpower over a non-issue?

I'm not advocating man-hunting illegal immigrants, tho. Merely applying the law and expelling them when they're found, it's not wasting funds quite the contrary.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:18 pm

Aellex wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Again making an issue out of nothing.
What's it like to want to throw away money and manpower over a non-issue?

I'm not advocating man-hunting illegal immigrants, tho. Merely applying the law and expelling them when they're found, it's not wasting funds quite the contrary.

"when they're found" implies hunting for them.
Do you mean that you support deportation for those that appear in the justice system because they committed a felony? Because that's what I support.
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Postby Aellex » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:23 pm

Genivaria wrote:"when they're found" implies hunting for them.
Do you mean that you support deportation for those that appear in the justice system because they committed a felony? Because that's what I support.

No, it implies searching for them. One needs not to release the hounds, just to keep an open eye.

There is no need for further crimes than the one they're already committing by being there illegally to justify expelling them.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:26 pm

Aellex wrote:
Genivaria wrote:"when they're found" implies hunting for them.
Do you mean that you support deportation for those that appear in the justice system because they committed a felony? Because that's what I support.

No, it implies searching for them. One needs not to release the hounds, just to keep an open eye.

There is no need for further crimes than the one they're already committing by being there illegally to justify expelling them.

You are splitting hairs, and yes what you advocate is a waste of money and manpower.
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Postby Aellex » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:30 pm

Genivaria wrote:You are splitting hairs, and yes what you advocate is a waste of money and manpower.

You're being deliberately obtuse by deliberately hyperboling, refusing to acknowledge the mere existence of the concept of "nuance".
And no what I'm advocating for isn't more of a waste of money or manpower than policing for any other crime is.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:32 pm

Aellex wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You are splitting hairs, and yes what you advocate is a waste of money and manpower.

You're being deliberately obtuse by deliberately hyperboling, refusing to acknowledge the mere existence of the concept of "nuance".
And no what I'm advocating for isn't more of a waste of money or manpower than policing for any other crime is.

'any other crime'
Hunting down and imprisoning people with weed in their pocket is also a waste of money and manpower, the difference is that Possession is actually a crime and not just a civil offense.
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Postby Ultramarr » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:35 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:So you listed "snitching" among the stuff he did. Of all the things he did "snitching" wasn't bad he helped the law

I believe it was bad. Maliciously reporting a fellow high school student to the assholes of ICE because of your explicit racism is not good, even if the student was, in fact, an undocumented immigrant. The law can be unjust, so it's not a bullet-proof excuse for shitty behavior.

Well the law enforcements aren't "assholes" because they do the job of finding illegals a very important job for society. Even if he was racist reporting an illegal is not bad although his other stuff was

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:36 pm

Ultramarr wrote:the job of finding illegals a very important job for society

How?
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Postby Aillyria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:37 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Illegal immigration or overstay = GTFO

Illegal immigration + we'll find a way for you to get legalized without sending you back

Why the hell would we do that? Why should someone who came here by breaking our laws be help getting the privileges and rights of our citizenship? That's like catching an identity thief in the act and then giving them your personal info anyway.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:38 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:the job of finding illegals a very important job for society

How?

Because he says so I guess.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:40 pm

Aillyria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Illegal immigration + we'll find a way for you to get legalized without sending you back

Why the hell would we do that? Why should someone who came here by breaking our laws be help getting the privileges and rights of our citizenship? That's like catching an identity thief in the act and then giving them your personal info anyway.

>Equating finding a better life to identity theft
Are illegal immigrants stealing US identity now?
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Postby Aillyria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:45 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Why the hell would we do that? Why should someone who came here by breaking our laws be help getting the privileges and rights of our citizenship? That's like catching an identity thief in the act and then giving them your personal info anyway.

>Equating finding a better life to identity theft
Are illegal immigrants stealing US identity now?


> That's all well and good, but there is a legal process for immigrating to our country. We have this thing called laws.
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Postby Ultramarr » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:46 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:the job of finding illegals a very important job for society

How?

By preserving a nation from being flooded with illegals they are akin to white blood cells in a body they are preserving society.

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Postby Trumptonium » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:47 pm

Again, I repeat what I said earlier.

Begin an incentive scheme with a financial reward to anyone who reports an illegal immigrant and their tip off leads to a successful deportation.

The incentive scheme of $500-$2500 per migrant could probably be easily funded from the seizure of assets of the deported. I have to agree that using the police for this is indeed a waste of money and manpower. When there's a financial incentive to report somebody, we'll see a greater number of deportations. Deporting a family of 4 on your street = $10000.
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Postby Aillyria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:47 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:How?

By preserving a nation from being flooded with illegals they are akin to white blood cells in a body they are preserving society.

That's actually a good way to look at it. I agree illegals should be actively rooted out.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:50 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:How?

By preserving a nation from being flooded with illegals they are akin to white blood cells in a body they are preserving society.

>Equating citizens as cells fighting illegals aka "infection"
Really? Illegal immigrants are not an infection.
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Postby Ultramarr » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:52 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:By preserving a nation from being flooded with illegals they are akin to white blood cells in a body they are preserving society.

>Equating citizens as cells fighting illegals aka "infection"
Really? Illegal immigrants are not an infection.

Yes illegal ones are not the legal ones but illegals certainly are like an infection that will get out of control if not stopped
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Postby Shaggtopia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:52 pm

How does one become a US Citizen these days? It should be a standardized test, we can test it on all natural citizens and deport anyone who fails.
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Postby Crockerland » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:59 pm

Shaggtopia wrote:How does one become a US Citizen these days? It should be a standardized test, we can test it on all natural citizens and deport anyone who fails.

That would be a violation of international law.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:02 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Shaggtopia wrote:How does one become a US Citizen these days? It should be a standardized test, we can test it on all natural citizens and deport anyone who fails.

That would be a violation of international law.


When the fuck has the U.S. ever cared about international law.

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Postby Aillyria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:04 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:By preserving a nation from being flooded with illegals they are akin to white blood cells in a body they are preserving society.

>Equating citizens as cells fighting illegals aka "infection"
Really? Illegal immigrants are not an infection.

It's actually a very good analogy, tbh. They're not citizens living here in our houses, eating our food, drinking up our water, taking our jobs, using our healthcare services.....they're like tapeworms in our national gut.
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Postby Ultramarr » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:07 pm

Aillyria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>Equating citizens as cells fighting illegals aka "infection"
Really? Illegal immigrants are not an infection.

It's actually a very good analogy, tbh. They're not citizens living here in our houses, eating our food, drinking up our water, taking our jobs, using our healthcare services.....they're like tapeworms in our national gut.

Very well put. I mean you wouldn't let strangers just sneak into your house and do what they want

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:09 pm

Aillyria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>Equating citizens as cells fighting illegals aka "infection"
Really? Illegal immigrants are not an infection.

It's actually a very good analogy, tbh. They're not citizens living here in our houses, eating our food, drinking up our water, taking our jobs, using our healthcare services.....they're like tapeworms in our national gut.

My god every nonsensical stereotype in one post.
Pretty sure that they're not stealing your food from your table or water from your pipes so you post is nothing but the most absurd hyperbole.
Also "living here in our houses" REALLY?
The latest estimate is that there are 18.9 million vacant homes in America so pull the other one.
"taking our jobs"
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"using our healthcare services"
I'm sorry when did we have a tax paid healthcare system that they could be a burden on? If they can't pay then they suffer like the rest of us.
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