Pupil seemingly expelled for reporting illegal immigrant

[New York City Police Department]

Gonna need some more then a YouTube video. And what’s you’re opinion OP?

My opinion is he didn't break the law he followed it so he shouldn't be punished for following and supporting the law. The school clearly is abusing their power for ideologically reasons

Yeah, I'll say he didn't break the law. I hope his parents sue the bastidges running the school.

[Proctopeo]

You won't get a "proper" answer because your question makes no goddamn sense.

Because?

Yes, because. Did I use the wrong conjunction?
If you want an explanation as to why, here's a flow-chart of the discussion:

Iffy says that schools shouldn't check citizenship status -> Aill says that only people who are legally in the country should be allowed in school, and that we could show them how to actually immigrate -> You waltz in with a non-sequitur question -> Aill further explains her position -> You insist that she answer your question that doesn't make any sense with how this discussion has been playing out

Does that make sense?

[Crockerland]

"An off-duty police officer broke into my house and stole my laptop"
"Wow don't get so worked up over a bookkeeping error come on i mean the police have warrants sometimes that let them break into peoples' houses and they can take stuff for evidence he just forgot to get a warrant that doesn't make him a criminal come on"

>tfw somebody does not notice the difference between a victimless crime and a normal one

Not a victimless crime any more than a politician directly pocketing tax money.

[Petrolheadia]

Because?

Yes, because. Did I use the wrong conjunction?
If you want an explanation as to why, here's a flow-chart of the discussion:

Iffy says that schools shouldn't check citizenship status -> Aill says that only people who are legally in the country should be allowed in school, and that we could show them how to actually immigrate -> You waltz in with a non-sequitur question -> Aill further explains her position -> You insist that she answer your question that doesn't make any sense with how this discussion has been playing out

Does that make sense?

It does not make sense.

Her argument was formatted in a "well, they can get the papers anyway" way.

So I'm asking: if the papers are the only difference, then why should we even require them?

[Ifreann]

Why? Their job is to run schools. Not to check citizenship.

You hate the government doing tihngs, shouldn't you hate giving more power to schools?

The problem is an illegal shouldn't be allowed in a school for Americans and foreigners who came here legally, he needs go back to his country and try again. Maybe we can get someone to take him by the hand and show him how to immigrate the correct way.

Yes, this child needs to go back to where they came from and try to immigrate again. Because they are in control of their own life and circumstances, as all children are.

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I think immigration violations are status offenses and should not be considered crimes.

I hear "illegal" too much, as if these were armed robbers. No, it is more like they committed a bookkeeping error, like when you forgot to renew your car insurance in time. Does that make you a criminal? I hope not.

"An off-duty police officer broke into my house and stole my laptop"
"Wow don't get so worked up over a bookkeeping error come on i mean the police have warrants sometimes that let them break into peoples' houses and they can take stuff for evidence he just forgot to get a warrant that doesn't make him a criminal come on"

Being in the US illegally isn't a crime. Stealing laptops is.

[Crockerland]

The problem is an illegal shouldn't be allowed in a school for Americans and foreigners who came here legally, he needs go back to his country and try again. Maybe we can get someone to take him by the hand and show him how to immigrate the correct way.

Yes, this child needs to go back to where they came from and try to immigrate again. Because they are in control of their own life and circumstances, as all children are.

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"An off-duty police officer broke into my house and stole my laptop"
"Wow don't get so worked up over a bookkeeping error come on i mean the police have warrants sometimes that let them break into peoples' houses and they can take stuff for evidence he just forgot to get a warrant that doesn't make him a criminal come on"

Being in the US illegally isn't a crime. Stealing laptops is.

"Being in the US illegaly isn't a crime"

[Kubumba Tribe]

Being in the US illegally isn't a crime. Stealing laptops is.

Pretty sure illegal immigration's a crime, else it wouldn't be called "illegal"

[Crockerland]

Yes, because. Did I use the wrong conjunction?
If you want an explanation as to why, here's a flow-chart of the discussion:

Iffy says that schools shouldn't check citizenship status -> Aill says that only people who are legally in the country should be allowed in school, and that we could show them how to actually immigrate -> You waltz in with a non-sequitur question -> Aill further explains her position -> You insist that she answer your question that doesn't make any sense with how this discussion has been playing out

Does that make sense?

It does not make sense.

Her argument was formatted in a "well, they can get the papers anyway" way.

So I'm asking: if the papers are the only difference, then why should we even require them?

If the only difference between being allowed to fly a plane and not being allowed to fly a plane is this piece of plastic called a "license", why even require it?

[Proctopeo]

Yes, because. Did I use the wrong conjunction?
If you want an explanation as to why, here's a flow-chart of the discussion:

Iffy says that schools shouldn't check citizenship status -> Aill says that only people who are legally in the country should be allowed in school, and that we could show them how to actually immigrate -> You waltz in with a non-sequitur question -> Aill further explains her position -> You insist that she answer your question that doesn't make any sense with how this discussion has been playing out

Does that make sense?

It does not make sense.

Her argument was formatted in a "well, they can get the papers anyway" way.

So I'm asking: if the papers are the only difference, then why should we even require them?

That's not how I saw her argument. I fail to see how you would get to that conclusion from what she wrote.
Even if your assessment is correct, your question is still monumentally stupid. Why should we require papers? So we can know who is and isn't here legally.

[Petrolheadia]

It does not make sense.

Her argument was formatted in a "well, they can get the papers anyway" way.

So I'm asking: if the papers are the only difference, then why should we even require them?

If the only difference between being allowed to fly a plane and not being allowed to fly a plane is this piece of plastic called a "license", why even require it?

So living in a country should require having a license?

I agree under one circumstance: everybody on the country's soil needs that license.

[Ifreann]

Yes, this child needs to go back to where they came from and try to immigrate again. Because they are in control of their own life and circumstances, as all children are.

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Being in the US illegally isn't a crime. Stealing laptops is.

"Being in the US illegaly isn't a crime"

Yes, exactly. Something being illegal is not the same as something being a crime.

Consider, it is illegal to serve more than two terms as President. What is the criminal punishment for doing so? How many years in prison? How many dollars of a fine?

[Liriena]

The school clearly is abusing their power for ideologically reasons

The ideological reasons being that the asshat doxxed himself as a rabid racist with violent fantasies... on top of a snitch.

[Liriena]

Yes, this child needs to go back to where they came from and try to immigrate again. Because they are in control of their own life and circumstances, as all children are.

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Being in the US illegally isn't a crime. Stealing laptops is.

"Being in the US illegaly isn't a crime"

Ifreann is technically correct (which arguably is the best kind of correct). Being in the United States as an undocumented immigrant, in and of itself, is a mere civil violation.

[Liriena]

Being in the US illegally isn't a crime. Stealing laptops is.

Pretty sure illegal immigration's a crime, else it wouldn't be called "illegal"

The use of "illegal" to describe undocumented immigrants is pretty much just slang, not necessarily a technical term.

[Ultramarr]

The school clearly is abusing their power for ideologically reasons

The ideological reasons being that the asshat doxxed himself as a rabid racist with violent fantasies... on top of a snitch.

So you don't like snitching on criminals. So drug dealers, murders, pedos and thieves and all that shouldn't be snitched on either

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The ideological reasons being that the asshat doxxed himself as a rabid racist with violent fantasies... on top of a snitch.

So you don't like snitching on criminals. So drug dealers, murders, pedos and thieves and all that shouldn't be snitched on either

We're talking about undocumented immigrants, not criminals.

[Ifreann]

The ideological reasons being that the asshat doxxed himself as a rabid racist with violent fantasies... on top of a snitch.

So you don't like snitching on criminals. So drug dealers, murders, pedos and thieves and all that shouldn't be snitched on either

How many people have you reported to the police for pirating movies, music, or video games?

[Liriena]

The ideological reasons being that the asshat doxxed himself as a rabid racist with violent fantasies... on top of a snitch.

So you don't like snitching on criminals. So drug dealers, murders, pedos and thieves and all that shouldn't be snitched on either

An undocumented teenager =/= drug dealers, murderers, pedos and thieves

If dumb false equivalences is the best you've got...

[Liriena]

So you don't like snitching on criminals. So drug dealers, murders, pedos and thieves and all that shouldn't be snitched on either

How many people have you reported to the police for pirating movies, music, or video games?

Hey, pirating muh vidyagaymz is good praxis against the evil globalist jews. /s

[VoVoDoCo]

I support more open immigration, but that immigrant was there illegally. The student was simply reporting a crime. When it becomes a crime, to report a crime, you are ruled by criminals.

Even when I was a Republican, I supported Edward Snowden's leaks, and for similar reasons.

[VoVoDoCo]

Though personally I wouldn't snitch. Just me though.

[Liriena]

The student was simply reporting a crime.

Not necessarily.

[Ifreann]

I support more open immigration, but that immigrant was there illegally. The student was simply reporting a crime. When it becomes a crime, to report a crime, you are ruled by criminals.

Even when I was a Republican, I supported Edward Snowden's leaks, and for similar reasons.

You know this guy was expelled from school, not sent to prison, yeah?

[Liriena]

I support more open immigration, but that immigrant was there illegally. The student was simply reporting a crime. When it becomes a crime, to report a crime, you are ruled by criminals.

Even when I was a Republican, I supported Edward Snowden's leaks, and for similar reasons.

You know this guy was expelled from school, not sent to prison, yeah?

And, again, he didn't just snitch. He openly denigrated people of color and fantasized about torturing them.

[Ultramarr]

You know this guy was expelled from school, not sent to prison, yeah?

And, again, he didn't just snitch. He openly denigrated people of color and fantasized about torturing them.

So you listed "snitching" among the stuff he did. Of all the things he did "snitching" wasn't bad he helped the law