Pupil seemingly expelled for reporting illegal immigrant

[Camicon]

My point being that it's no more shitty than bragging about jaywalking. Your viscerally aggressive and disgusted response to someone "bragging" about being undocumented is telling.

Illegal immigration is several orders of magnitude worse for society than jaywalking.

Quite the contrary. Undocumented immigrants have lower rates of criminality than the natural-born population, and provide more in taxes than they get back in government services (because they can't access them, being undocumented). They do most of the shit jobs that American citizens don't want to do. They're why your produce is cheap, among other things.

My point being that it's no more shitty than bragging about jaywalking. Your viscerally aggressive and disgusted response to someone "bragging" about being undocumented is telling.

Aah, if only jaywalking cost the countrybillions each year.

Use a source that isn't complete horseshit and I'll consider playing along.

[Kramanica]

Illegal immigration is several orders of magnitude worse for society than jaywalking.

Quite the contrary. Undocumented immigrants have lower rates of criminality, and provide more in taxes than they get back in government services (because they can't access them, being undocumented).

Aah, if only jaywalking cost the countrybillions each year.

Use a source that isn't complete horseshit and I'll consider playing along.

"I-I'm just going to call your source horseshit instead of debating." :')

[Ifreann]

"I'll send you a cheque once I've left the country"

We will be taking money from the financial aid we give your nation.

Oh well, that'll certainly put the fear of God into illegal immigrants. Their government will receive very slightly less money from America, if they receive any foreign aid at all.

[Vassenor]

My point being that it's no more shitty than bragging about jaywalking. Your viscerally aggressive and disgusted response to someone "bragging" about being undocumented is telling.

Aah, if only jaywalking cost the country billions each year.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Thanks for playing.

[Camicon]

Quite the contrary. Undocumented immigrants have lower rates of criminality, and provide more in taxes than they get back in government services (because they can't access them, being undocumented).

Use a source that isn't complete horseshit and I'll consider playing along.

"I-I'm just going to call your source horseshit instead of debating." :')

I have better things to do then debunk a source that has its facts wrong on the face of it, by lumping American children of undocumented immigrants into the same category as their parents.

[Kramanica]

Aah, if only jaywalking cost the country billions each year.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Thanks for playing.

FAIR's a hate group? That's fucking hilarious. Good god, the SPLC is a joke.

Also, this is now my chance.

Genetic fallacy.

Attack the information, not the source. Remember? :')

[Kramanica]

"I-I'm just going to call your source horseshit instead of debating." :')

I have better things to do then debunk a source that has its facts wrong on the face of it, by lumping American children of undocumented immigrants into the same category as their parents.

Yes, illegals have kids. And those kids cost us money as well.

But yes, I'm sorry to take up your valuable time by actually expecting you to debate.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Aah, if only jaywalking cost the country billions each year.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Thanks for playing.

I rather not read a link with "hatewatch" in it, seems to political correctnessy.

I also am disturbed that the second website asked me for my location.

Do you have anything on the writers?

[Vassenor]

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Thanks for playing.

FAIR's a hate group? That's fucking hilarious. Good god, the SPLC is a joke.

Also, this is now my chance.

Genetic fallacy.

Attack the information, not the source. Remember? :')

Oh, once the shoe's on the other foot suddenly doing that is bad (also you're still doing it with that comment about the SPLC, so nice try falling before you can get to the moral high ground).

But seriously, when your only source is from a pressure group (which means they have a narrative to push) then you have to question its veracity.

[Kramanica]

FAIR's a hate group? That's fucking hilarious. Good god, the SPLC is a joke.

Also, this is now my chance.

Genetic fallacy.

Attack the information, not the source. Remember? :')

Oh, once the shoe's on the other foot suddenly doing that is bad.

I am so, so sorry to ask you to live by your own standard.

But seriously, when your only source is from a pressure group (which means they have a narrative to push) then you have to question its veracity.

Disprove it then.

[Camicon]

I have better things to do then debunk a source that has its facts wrong on the face of it, by lumping American children of undocumented immigrants into the same category as their parents.

Yes, illegals have kids. And those kids cost us money as well.

But yes, I'm sorry to take up your valuable time by actually expecting you to debate.

>claims to present data on the cost of undocumented immigrants
>includes "costs" of American citizens

Either FAIR doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, or they're using the "costs" of undocumented immigration to fear monger about brown people.

If you want a debate then try bringing something to the table that isn't so goddamn stupid.

[Jebslund]

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Thanks for playing.

FAIR's a hate group? That's fucking hilarious. Good god, the SPLC is a joke.

Also, this is now my chance.

Genetic fallacy.

Attack the information, not the source. Remember? :')

Unless the source is biased to the point that the information cannot be trusted without further corroboration. You wouldn't trust CNN to present an accurate view of Trump, would you?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Yes, illegals have kids. And those kids cost us money as well.

But yes, I'm sorry to take up your valuable time by actually expecting you to debate.

>claims to present data on the cost of undocumented immigrants
>includes "costs" of American citizens

Either FAIR doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, or they're using the "costs" of undocumented immigration to fear monger about brown people.

If you want a debate then try bringing something to the table that isn't so goddamn stupid.

>neglects to mention that "American citizens" are American citizens born via off of "border cross gotta have sex, so the gov doesn't deport me"

[Kubumba Tribe]

>claims to present data on the cost of undocumented immigrants
>includes "costs" of American citizens

Either FAIR doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, or they're using the "costs" of undocumented immigration to fear monger about brown people.

If you want a debate then try bringing something to the table that isn't so goddamn stupid.

>neglects to mention that "American citizens" are American citizens born via off of "border cross gotta have sex, so the gov doesn't deport me"

Yes. They are US citizens.
And their parents shouldn't be deported.

[Kramanica]

Yes, illegals have kids. And those kids cost us money as well.

But yes, I'm sorry to take up your valuable time by actually expecting you to debate.

>claims to present data on the cost of undocumented immigrants
>includes "costs" of American citizens

Either FAIR doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, or they're using the "costs" of undocumented immigration to fear monger about brown people.

If you want a debate then try bringing something to the table that isn't so goddamn stupid.

The cost of their children that they give birth to on US soil. You do realize having actual birthright citizenship is a rarity, right? So yeah, including the cost of their families is justifiable.

Also
>i-it's stupid
>t-they're just fearmongering about brown people
No, you're just racebaiting.

Try again, unless of course you don't wish to grace me any further by spending your valuable time on this matter.

[Holy Tedalonia]

FAIR's a hate group? That's fucking hilarious. Good god, the SPLC is a joke.

Also, this is now my chance.

Genetic fallacy.

Attack the information, not the source. Remember? :')

Unless the source is biased to the point that the information cannot be trusted without further corroboration. You wouldn't trust CNN to present an accurate view of Trump, would you?

Biasness and being trusted is two different things. Being bias means you have political leanings or specific issue. Trust is another matter, if they are displaying all the right facts and be bias in the process doesn't necessarily mean it's untrustworthy.

[Kramanica]

>neglects to mention that "American citizens" are American citizens born via off of "border cross gotta have sex, so the gov doesn't deport me"

Yes. They are US citizens.
And their parents shouldn't be deported.

Yes, they should.

[Holy Tedalonia]

>neglects to mention that "American citizens" are American citizens born via off of "border cross gotta have sex, so the gov doesn't deport me"

Yes. They are US citizens.
And their parents shouldn't be deported.

You support the illegal border cross?

[Camicon]

>claims to present data on the cost of undocumented immigrants
>includes "costs" of American citizens

Either FAIR doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, or they're using the "costs" of undocumented immigration to fear monger about brown people.

If you want a debate then try bringing something to the table that isn't so goddamn stupid.

The cost of their children that they give birth to on US soil. You do realize having actual birthright citizenship is a rarity, right? So yeah, including the cost of their families is justifiable.

Also
>i-it's stupid
>t-they're just fearmongering about brown people
No, you're just racebaiting.

Try again, unless of course you don't wish to grace me any further by spending your valuable time on this matter.

If you want to factor in the costs of American citizens whose parents are undocumented then you also have to factor in what they pay into society, once they begin careers of their own.

How much do you want to bet that FAIR hasn't done that?

[Kramanica]

The cost of their children that they give birth to on US soil. You do realize having actual birthright citizenship is a rarity, right? So yeah, including the cost of their families is justifiable.

Also
>i-it's stupid
>t-they're just fearmongering about brown people
No, you're just racebaiting.

Try again, unless of course you don't wish to grace me any further by spending your valuable time on this matter.

If you want to factor in the costs of American citizens whose parents are undocumented then you also have to factor in what they pay into society, once they begin careers of their own.

How much do you want to bet that FAIR hasn't done that?

They literally have an entire section where they compare what they pay in tax revenue vs how much they cost.

You didn't even read the study that you're claiming is horseshit like goddamn.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yes. They are US citizens.
And their parents shouldn't be deported.

You support the illegal border cross?

No, but I support that families shouldn't be torn apart.

[Holy Tedalonia]

You support the illegal border cross?

No, but I support that families shouldn't be torn apart.

I support not making them US citizens to do that.

[The Rich Port]

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Thanks for playing.

FAIR's a hate group? That's fucking hilarious. Good god, the SPLC is a joke.

Also, this is now my chance.

Genetic fallacy.

Attack the information, not the source. Remember? :')

You're suggesting there's anything else to judge them by, and that Dan Stein's nonsense never existed as a corrupting influence.

All I read about them is anti-immigration rhetoric that offers little in the way of evidence or solutions to the immigration issues.

Illegal immigrants aren't a disease, they're the symptom of a larger disease that FAIR always ignores and believes that simply deporting people will somehow solve these problems.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

No, but I support that families shouldn't be torn apart.

I support not making them US citizens to do that.

So you think the whole family should be deported?

[Camicon]

If you want to factor in the costs of American citizens whose parents are undocumented then you also have to factor in what they pay into society, once they begin careers of their own.

How much do you want to bet that FAIR hasn't done that?

They literally have an entire section where they compare what they pay in tax revenue vs how much they cost.

You didn't even read the study that you're claiming is horseshit like goddamn.

What the undocumented parents pay, versus the costs that the state incurs on behalf of their children, beyond what any other American citizen would? Or what the American citizens with undocumented parents pay compared to what costs the state incurred during their childhood, beyond what any other American citizen would?

See, here's the rub: if you want to bitch about the "costs" of children with undocumented parents then you have to focus your bitching on the "costs" that are solely due to their parents being undocumented. Otherwise you're just generally bitching about social supports and programs that the state provides for children. Which, I mean, you can do that too, but that's beyond the scope of undocumented immigration.