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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:08 am

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Ultramarr wrote:Neither does the garbage he accused me of

every single one was true, though. You have yet to bring any statistic, academic, or even anecdotal evidence to support your claims. Anecdotes aren't accurate and don't count as evidence, but you have failed to bring even one of those. Every single claim you've made, until now, has been absolutely and 100% mistaken (sometimes stuff that any dumbass can find by a google search, much less really complicated stuff)

Again your biased far left opinions. Funny how you get to try to pick a fight and call people "dumbass" but when I repay you lots classless behaviour the communist moderators arrive

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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 am

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Pilarcraft wrote:every single one was true, though. You have yet to bring any statistic, academic, or even anecdotal evidence to support your claims. Anecdotes aren't accurate and don't count as evidence, but you have failed to bring even one of those. Every single claim you've made, until now, has been absolutely and 100% mistaken (sometimes stuff that any dumbass can find by a google search, much less really complicated stuff)

Again your biased far left opinions. Funny how you get to try to pick a fight and call people "dumbass" but when I repay you lots classless behaviour the communist moderators arrive

1- didn't call you a dumbass actually. you could have been one, but you didn't even do the bare minimum of performing a simple google search. ;)

2- not far left. actually I'm close to center. but then again, to you anyone left of Hitler could be far left, so Idk

3- again, I'm not making an opinion. I'm stating the fact that you've yet to offer any evidence for any of your claims.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:45 am

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Auze wrote:Don't most illegal immigrants come in legally by plane and just overstay their vistas?


You can end a ton of illegal immigration instantly with visa tracking and stringent e-verify nationwide. That probably cuts down about half of it. Don't even need a wall or much of a border patrol to do that.

Why our government doesn't implement this incredibly cheap and simple solution is beyond me.

"Why don't Republicans impose and fund enforcement of strict regulations that'll cut the profits of both large and small businesses?"
Uhhh.....

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Postby Kavagrad » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:01 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:Again your biased far left opinions. Funny how you get to try to pick a fight and call people "dumbass" but when I repay you lots classless behaviour the communist moderators arrive

1- didn't call you a dumbass actually. you could have been one, but you didn't even do the bare minimum of performing a simple google search. ;)

2- not far left. actually I'm close to center. but then again, to you anyone left of Hitler could be far left, so Idk

3- again, I'm not making an opinion. I'm stating the fact that you've yet to offer any evidence for any of your claims.

Anyone that doesn't follow his fascist and white supremacist rhetoric is a fucking commie.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:07 am

Kavagrad wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:1- didn't call you a dumbass actually. you could have been one, but you didn't even do the bare minimum of performing a simple google search. ;)

2- not far left. actually I'm close to center. but then again, to you anyone left of Hitler could be far left, so Idk

3- again, I'm not making an opinion. I'm stating the fact that you've yet to offer any evidence for any of your claims.

Anyone that doesn't follow his fascist and white supremacist rhetoric is a fucking commie.

Can I be a damn commie instead?
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Postby Kavagrad » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am

Sovaal wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Anyone that doesn't follow his fascist and white supremacist rhetoric is a fucking commie.

Can I be a damn commie instead?

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:18 am

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Katganistan wrote:

You mean, the death of "white" civilization.
But given this is a nation of immigrants, it would not lead to the death of American civilization.



The natives were pushed onto the least arable lands, had their food source destroyed, and was given blankets infected with smallpox to try to eradicate them by their so called civilized white immigrants to this land.

Don't you dare call them backward when the only reason the English survived their first winter was these backward people feeding them and teaching them to hunt and farm and fish in this new land.

God, the absolute ignorance of history and disdain for people our ancestors tried to eradicate through genocide to steal their home is sickening.

You might be full of white guilt but white civilisation is a great civilisation that must be preserved it was they that civilised most of the world. They were backwards with loin cloths and bow and arrows and they had it coming it was like natural selection a whole culture. Its just like a lion eating a sheep


What the fuck is "white civilisation"? In particular, what the fuck do the US and Estonia have in common that makes them somehow one civilisation?
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:19 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:every single one was true, though. You have yet to bring any statistic, academic, or even anecdotal evidence to support your claims. Anecdotes aren't accurate and don't count as evidence, but you have failed to bring even one of those. Every single claim you've made, until now, has been absolutely and 100% mistaken (sometimes stuff that any dumbass can find by a google search, much less really complicated stuff)

Again your biased far left opinions. Funny how you get to try to pick a fight and call people "dumbass" but when I repay you lots classless behaviour the communist moderators arrive


Asking for evidence is biased now?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:21 am

Ultramarr calls genocide, slavery, oppression and theft of land "like natural selection"...
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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:02 am

Kavagrad wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:1- didn't call you a dumbass actually. you could have been one, but you didn't even do the bare minimum of performing a simple google search. ;)

2- not far left. actually I'm close to center. but then again, to you anyone left of Hitler could be far left, so Idk

3- again, I'm not making an opinion. I'm stating the fact that you've yet to offer any evidence for any of your claims.

Anyone that doesn't follow his fascist and white supremacist rhetoric is a fucking commie.

"White supremacist" hahahaha really now. That's a stupid buzzword. What makes you assume my race as well

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:03 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Katganistan wrote:

You mean, the death of "white" civilization.
But given this is a nation of immigrants, it would not lead to the death of American civilization.



The natives were pushed onto the least arable lands, had their food source destroyed, and was given blankets infected with smallpox to try to eradicate them by their so called civilized white immigrants to this land.

Don't you dare call them backward when the only reason the English survived their first winter was these backward people feeding them and teaching them to hunt and farm and fish in this new land.

God, the absolute ignorance of history and disdain for people our ancestors tried to eradicate through genocide to steal their home is sickening.

You might be full of white guilt but white civilisation is a great civilisation that must be preserved it was they that civilised most of the world. They were backwards with loin cloths and bow and arrows and they had it coming it was like natural selection a whole culture. Its just like a lion eating a sheep

Would you say the same about Islamic conquerors of the Middle Ages?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:05 am

Ultramarr wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I already posted that. Besides, Squawker sucks. The Newsweek article is the most current. :p



Ultramarr: "I don't know how colonialism or allusions work".

I do and I think colonialism was a good thing


Is it now? Have you ever been subjugated?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:06 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Ultimate calls genocide, slavery, oppression and theft of land "like natural selection"...


Well? Technically it is.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:06 am

Sovaal wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:You might be full of white guilt but white civilisation is a great civilisation that must be preserved it was they that civilised most of the world. They were backwards with loin cloths and bow and arrows and they had it coming it was like natural selection a whole culture. Its just like a lion eating a sheep

Would you say the same about Islamic conquerors of the Middle Ages?

I don't like them but no use moaning about it now. The gap between the middle east and Europe wasn't as big until the Europeans over took them and eclipsed them that's why they were both winning and losing wars against each other. I would still sympathiser with the European side but that's just preferences for which civilisation you prefer.

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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:08 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:I do and I think colonialism was a good thing


Is it now? Have you ever been subjugated?

Obivously I will side with my country and it did bring medicine, science, civilisation, machinery and so on

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:09 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Would you say the same about Islamic conquerors of the Middle Ages?

I don't like them but no use moaning about it now. The gap between the middle east and Europe wasn't as big until the Europeans over took them and eclipsed them that's why they were both winning and losing wars against each other. I would still sympathiser with the European side but that's just preferences for which civilisation you prefer.

So the Christians of the region “had it coming”?
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:10 am

Ultramarr wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Is it now? Have you ever been subjugated?

Obivously I will side with my country and it did bring medicine, science, civilisation, machinery and so on

does that include the Middle eastern invasion of Europe? because it did bring all of what you said to Europe
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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:11 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:Obivously I will side with my country and it did bring medicine, science, civilisation, machinery and so on

does that include the Middle eastern invasion of Europe? because it did bring all of what you said to Europe

The Europeans then conquered most of the middle east and brought a even better civilisation

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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:12 am

Sovaal wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:I don't like them but no use moaning about it now. The gap between the middle east and Europe wasn't as big until the Europeans over took them and eclipsed them that's why they were both winning and losing wars against each other. I would still sympathiser with the European side but that's just preferences for which civilisation you prefer.

So the Christians of the region “had it coming”?

At first but they weren't push overs and got their revenge

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Postby The Grand World Order » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:13 am

If all he did was report students who were illegal immigrants, it would be wrong for him to be expelled. I did the same thing while I was in high school, and upon DACA being repealed.

Given the fact that he publicly was talking about wanting to commit acts of violence, no, it's not wrong what happened to him.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:13 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Sovaal wrote:So the Christians of the region “had it coming”?

At first but they weren't push overs and got their revenge

Except they didn’t. The churches and Christians of Europe where different from the ones of the ME, an the Orthodox Church was forced to flee to Moscow as its believers in the Balkans were conquered by the Ottomans.
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Postby Ultramarr » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:15 am

Sovaal wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:At first but they weren't push overs and got their revenge

Except they didn’t. The churches and Christians of Europe where different from the ones of the ME, an the Orthodox Church was forced to flee to Moscow as its believers in the Balkans were conquered by the Ottomans.

The Spanish fixed the Moor problem and retook their lands, France and Britain conquered most of the Muslim world and when the Balkans got independence there was a backlash against the Muslim colonists.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:18 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:every single one was true, though. You have yet to bring any statistic, academic, or even anecdotal evidence to support your claims. Anecdotes aren't accurate and don't count as evidence, but you have failed to bring even one of those. Every single claim you've made, until now, has been absolutely and 100% mistaken (sometimes stuff that any dumbass can find by a google search, much less really complicated stuff)

Again your biased far left opinions. Funny how you get to try to pick a fight and call people "dumbass" but when I repay you lots classless behaviour the communist moderators arrive


So let's see your evidence then.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:22 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:does that include the Middle eastern invasion of Europe? because it did bring all of what you said to Europe

The Europeans then conquered most of the middle east and brought a even better civilisation

The Middle East already had a good civilization
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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:22 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:The Europeans then conquered most of the middle east and brought a even better civilisation

The Middle East already had a good civilization

until Islam happened, we know.
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