Pupil seemingly expelled for reporting illegal immigrant

[Katganistan]

I think apart from tourists and temporary workers most people shouldn't be allowed to permeant migrate here unless they got married or had a kid or something.

...why?

Because clearly they don't know their history and that THIS IS A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS.

Says who? I'm pretty sure no one wants to work a meager job being treated less than dirt and being paid below minimum wage

And why didn't they simply... enter legally?

Most do, and overstay a visa when the idiotically long procedure for vetting prospective immigrants takes longer than they are allowed to stay.

It takes SIX TO TEN YEARS to navigate the immigration and naturalization process.

[The Rich Port]

Kat is naturally correct.

The FBI notes that Islamic extremism is a relatively new phenomenon, and the market on terrorism was cornered by domestic terrorists, particularly right-wing extremists in the last 20 or so years.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publ ... rror_05sum

[Katganistan]

They aren't special priveleges. I'm not saying they should get citizenship as soon as they arrive, but they shouldn't be deported.

Not going to happen it will lead to the death of the civilisation. If say for example Sweden was 80 percent Somalian then its not Sweden anymore is it.

You mean, the death of "white" civilization.
But given this is a nation of immigrants, it would not lead to the death of American civilization.

By that logic, this ain't America. The natives have been outnumbered by Europeans and Africans for a couple centuries now.

The natives had their own backward technologically backward nations and didn't build the united states. Their reservations are their nations

The natives were pushed onto the least arable lands, had their food source destroyed, and was given blankets infected with smallpox to try to eradicate them by their so called civilized white immigrants to this land.

Don't you dare call them backward when the only reason the English survived their first winter was these backward people feeding them and teaching them to hunt and farm and fish in this new land.

God, the absolute ignorance of history and disdain for people our ancestors tried to eradicate through genocide to steal their home is sickening.

[Des-Bal]

Anyone else who is done trusting reports on the situation here it is as close to the source as possible.

http://www.sbac.edu/pages/ACPS
http://www.sbac.edu/files/_kfB0Y_/8106c ... y_2018.pdf

The school confirms he is "no longer enrolled" but states that expulsion takes a long process and hasn't been done in five years. Couple ways to read that.

[Katganistan]

Posting things on the internet is no different from publishing it in a newspaper. It isn't "Big Brother" to read the papers, is it?

I wasn't aware writing something on a paper could get a person expelled...

Write a note stating that you have a gun and want all the money in a bank teller's cash drawer and pass it to them, and I guarantee you'll get arrested, whether you have a gun or not.

[Vassenor]

I wasn't aware writing something on a paper could get a person expelled...

Write a note stating that you have a gun and want all the money in a bank teller's cash drawer and pass it to them, and I guarantee you'll get arrested, whether you have a gun or not.

Do people not get the concept of verbal assault any more? Sheesh.

[Des-Bal]

The natives were pushed onto the least arable lands, had their food source destroyed, and was given blankets infected with smallpox to try to eradicate them by their so called civilized white immigrants to this land.

Don't you dare call them backward when the only reason the English survived their first winter was these backward people feeding them and teaching them to hunt and farm and fish in this new land.

God, the absolute ignorance of history and disdain for people our ancestors tried to eradicate through genocide to steal their home is sickening.

If we're talking about being "backward" in the sense of having made less progress than is normal it depends on your frame of reference. If Europe was normal for the time then no predominantly stone-age culture could be anything but backward.

[Katganistan]

I already posted that. Besides, Squawker sucks. The Newsweek article is the most current.



Ultramarr: "I don't know how colonialism or allusions work".

I do and I think colonialism was a good thing

Then you like immigration.
Good to know.

Kat is naturally correct.

The FBI notes that Islamic extremism is a relatively new phenomenon, and the market on terrorism was cornered by domestic terrorists, particularly right-wing extremists in the last 20 or so years.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publ ... rror_05sum

Thanks for the corroboration.

[Liriena]

I believe it was bad. Maliciously reporting a fellow high school student to the assholes of ICE because of your explicit racism is not good, even if the student was, in fact, an undocumented immigrant. The law can be unjust, so it's not a bullet-proof excuse for shitty behavior.

Well the law enforcements aren't "assholes" because they do the job of finding illegals a very important job for society. Even if he was racist reporting an illegal is not bad although his other stuff was

As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement officers who enforce unjust laws are assholes. And no, I don't think "finding illegals" is a "very important job for society". Jailing the dipshits who caused the 2008 financial crash is very important for society, not finding and deporting some high school student who did nothing other than be in a country undocumented.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Well the law enforcements aren't "assholes" because they do the job of finding illegals a very important job for society. Even if he was racist reporting an illegal is not bad although his other stuff was

As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement officers who enforce unjust laws are assholes. And no, I don't think "finding illegals" is a "very important job for society". Jailing the dipshits who caused the 2008 financial crash is very important for society, not finding and deporting some high school student who did nothing other than be in a country undocumented.

Or we could have both.

[Liriena]

As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement officers who enforce unjust laws are assholes. And no, I don't think "finding illegals" is a "very important job for society". Jailing the dipshits who caused the 2008 financial crash is very important for society, not finding and deporting some high school student who did nothing other than be in a country undocumented.

Or we could have both.

Only one of those is inherently good. The other is going to ruin good and bad people alike, and probably more good than bad. And you're not going to be gaining much in the short or long run, or at least no more than you'd get if you gave those who deserve it a path to legalization.

[HMS Barham]

OK but I really thought thoughtcrime was a 1984 thing...

Sorry, when you publicly announce that you want to rape and torture people, and there is a reaction to it, that's not 'thoughtcrime'. That's presenting a clear and present danger.

For God's sake, everyone complaining of First Amendment rights -- they do NOT protect you from the consequences of making threats

Describing a violent fantasy isn't a threat.

I'm generally in favour of freedom of association but the state isn't. That this sort of person is more likely on average to be violent or commit crime despite no specific prior acts may well be true, but it is the same justification given for segregation. They can't have it both ways.

[Proctopeo]

Or we could have both.

Only one of those is inherently good. The other is going to ruin good and bad people alike, and probably more good than bad. And you're not going to be gaining much in the short or long run, or at least no more than you'd get if you gave those who deserve it a path to legalization.

The trick is to, simultaneously, make it harder to enter the country illegally, but also easier to become a legal citizen if you're good.

I'm thinking a giant moat between the USA and Mexico with bridges at major roads, each with an immigration services office right at the American side. And also helicopters to dissuade illegal entry.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Only one of those is inherently good. The other is going to ruin good and bad people alike, and probably more good than bad. And you're not going to be gaining much in the short or long run, or at least no more than you'd get if you gave those who deserve it a path to legalization.

The trick is to, simultaneously, make it harder to enter the country illegally, but also easier to become a legal citizen if you're good.

I'm thinking a giant moat between the USA and Mexico with bridges at major roads, each with an immigration services office right at the American side. And also helicopters to dissuade illegal entry.

Alligators too. Can't forget them.

[Proctopeo]

The trick is to, simultaneously, make it harder to enter the country illegally, but also easier to become a legal citizen if you're good.

I'm thinking a giant moat between the USA and Mexico with bridges at major roads, each with an immigration services office right at the American side. And also helicopters to dissuade illegal entry.

Alligators too. Can't forget them.

Robot alligators and laser sharks.

No swimming this canal.

[Camicon]

Alligators too. Can't forget them.

Robot alligators and laser sharks.

No swimming this canal.

Don't forget the laser beams.

[Auze]

Only one of those is inherently good. The other is going to ruin good and bad people alike, and probably more good than bad. And you're not going to be gaining much in the short or long run, or at least no more than you'd get if you gave those who deserve it a path to legalization.

The trick is to, simultaneously, make it harder to enter the country illegally, but also easier to become a legal citizen if you're good.

I'm thinking a giant moat between the USA and Mexico with bridges at major roads, each with an immigration services office right at the American side. And also helicopters to dissuade illegal entry.

Don't most illegal immigrants come in legally by plane and just overstay their vistas?

[Liriena]

The trick is to, simultaneously, make it harder to enter the country illegally, but also easier to become a legal citizen if you're good.

I'm thinking a giant moat between the USA and Mexico with bridges at major roads, each with an immigration services office right at the American side. And also helicopters to dissuade illegal entry.

Don't most illegal immigrants come in legally by plane and just overstay their vistas?

Shhhhhhhhh, don't say that. Let them explore their neomedievalist fantasies.

[Jebslund]

The trick is to, simultaneously, make it harder to enter the country illegally, but also easier to become a legal citizen if you're good.

I'm thinking a giant moat between the USA and Mexico with bridges at major roads, each with an immigration services office right at the American side. And also helicopters to dissuade illegal entry.

Don't most illegal immigrants come in legally by plane and just overstay their vistas?

Visas, but yes. Which is why the wall is one of the dumbest wastes of money ever proposed.

As to building a moat, we'd probably spend less money paying illegal immigrants to go home than we would on a moat, so why not just give them an education, a path to citizenship if they keep their noses clean, and actually do something productive with that money. Like actually pay teachers. Or send kids like this to counseling where they can work out their issues and such.

[Donut section]

Don't most illegal immigrants come in legally by plane and just overstay their vistas?

Visas, but yes. Which is why the wall is one of the dumbest wastes of money ever proposed.

As to building a moat, we'd probably spend less money paying illegal immigrants to go home than we would on a moat, so why not just give them an education, a path to citizenship if they keep their noses clean, and actually do something productive with that money. Like actually pay teachers. Or send kids like this to counseling where they can work out their issues and such.

The point is for them to pay their own deportation costs.

[Ultramarr]

I do and I think colonialism was a good thing

Then you like immigration.
Good to know.

Kat is naturally correct.

The FBI notes that Islamic extremism is a relatively new phenomenon, and the market on terrorism was cornered by domestic terrorists, particularly right-wing extremists in the last 20 or so years.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publ ... rror_05sum

Thanks for the corroboration.

No I don't like immigration here much. Colonialism brought civilisation to the natives unlike whats going on here

[Vassenor]

Then you like immigration.
Good to know.



Thanks for the corroboration.

No I don't like immigration here much. Colonialism brought civilisation to the natives unlike whats going on here

Pretty much the only difference is the race of who's doing the colonizing.

[HMS Barham]

No I don't like immigration here much. Colonialism brought civilisation to the natives unlike whats going on here

Pretty much the only difference is the race of who's doing the colonizing.

You believe that Pakistan is more civilised than Britain, and therefore you are insane.

[The Rich Port]

Then you like immigration.
Good to know.



Thanks for the corroboration.

No I don't like immigration here much. Colonialism brought civilisation to the natives unlike whats going on here

Yeah well you don't like facts so there's no pleasing you.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Pretty much the only difference is the race of who's doing the colonizing.

You believe that Pakistan is more civilised than Britain, and therefore you are insane.

Source for Vass saying that?