The Parkus Empire wrote:Species are not a social construct in the sense they cannot reproduce fertile offspring together. We did not construct that fact we just labeled it
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by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:11 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Species are not a social construct in the sense they cannot reproduce fertile offspring together. We did not construct that fact we just labeled it
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:12 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Reminds me of my discussions (as a humanities major) with one of my friends (who's a hard science major) about how species are just social constructs but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Species are not a social construct in the sense they cannot reproduce fertile offspring together. We did not construct that fact we just labeled it
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:13 pm
Puldania wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Species are not a social construct in the sense they cannot reproduce fertile offspring together. We did not construct that fact we just labeled it
And that label was in turn created by us. We decided that species means that instead of a purple footed panda playing chess.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:14 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Yeah, we constructed the label; not what it signifies. Drop the pomo crap.
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:17 pm
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:19 pm
by Aillyria » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:20 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:22 pm
Aillyria wrote:Irona wrote:Why? If gender is a mental/social state then there's no reason it should be defined by sex.
Per scientific research, individuals with dysphoria have brains aligning with those of the gender we identify with. Cisgendered people have the usual matching brain and body.
Trans people want to live as the gender we identify as and blend in as that in society. Our dysphoria is not a social construct, neither is the natural relationship between sex and gender. People are making dysphoria in to a trending fad, I find the notion of a "spectrum" or "gender is only a social construct" bit irritating and a mockery to the real plight of gender dysphoric people.
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:22 pm
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:23 pm
Aillyria wrote:Irona wrote:Why? If gender is a mental/social state then there's no reason it should be defined by sex.
Per scientific research, individuals with dysphoria have brains aligning with those of the gender we identify with. Cisgendered people have the usual matching brain and body.
Trans people want to live as the gender we identify as and blend in as that in society. Our dysphoria is not a social construct, neither is the natural relationship between sex and gender. People are making dysphoria in to a trending fad, I find the notion of a "spectrum" or "gender is only a social construct" bit irritating and a mockery to the real plight of gender dysphoric people.
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:23 pm
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:24 pm
by Skippityboobopistan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:25 pm
by Wysten » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:26 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.
I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."
What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?
by Irona » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:27 pm
Aillyria wrote:Irona wrote:Why? If gender is a mental/social state then there's no reason it should be defined by sex.
Per scientific research, individuals with dysphoria have brains aligning with those of the gender we identify with. Cisgendered people have the usual matching brain and body.
Trans people want to live as the gender we identify as and blend in as that in society. Our dysphoria is not a social construct, neither is the natural relationship between sex and gender. People are making dysphoria in to a trending fad, I find the notion of a "spectrum" or "gender is only a social construct" bit irritating and a mockery to the real plight of gender dysphoric people.
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:27 pm
Wysten wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.
I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."
What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?
There is male and there is female thats it end of story you are not anything else you are just a person who has been on Tumblr just a tad bit too long and/or suffer from a mental illness.
by Aillyria » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:29 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Aillyria wrote:Per scientific research, individuals with dysphoria have brains aligning with those of the gender we identify with. Cisgendered people have the usual matching brain and body.
Trans people want to live as the gender we identify as and blend in as that in society. Our dysphoria is not a social construct, neither is the natural relationship between sex and gender. People are making dysphoria in to a trending fad, I find the notion of a "spectrum" or "gender is only a social construct" bit irritating and a mockery to the real plight of gender dysphoric people.
Mm, gender is a spectrum and a social construct, but I agree such concepts are overused and misapplied to suggest a kind of gender 'freedom' that doesn't exist.
Puldania wrote:Aillyria wrote:Per scientific research, individuals with dysphoria have brains aligning with those of the gender we identify with. Cisgendered people have the usual matching brain and body.
Trans people want to live as the gender we identify as and blend in as that in society. Our dysphoria is not a social construct, neither is the natural relationship between sex and gender. People are making dysphoria in to a trending fad, I find the notion of a "spectrum" or "gender is only a social construct" bit irritating and a mockery to the real plight of gender dysphoric people.
Well unfortunately for you, the gender spectrum was a accepted in psychology before tumblr was a thing, so...
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Wysten » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:29 pm
by Skippityboobopistan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:29 pm
Wysten wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.
I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."
What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?
There is male and there is female thats it end of story you are not anything else you are just a person who has been on Tumblr just a tad bit too long and/or suffer from a mental illness.
by The Parkus Empire » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:29 pm
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by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:32 pm
Aillyria wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Mm, gender is a spectrum and a social construct, but I agree such concepts are overused and misapplied to suggest a kind of gender 'freedom' that doesn't exist.
The names/terms are a social contruction, not the reality they describe.....the star our planet orbits is there whether you call it "Sun" or "Sol".Puldania wrote:Well unfortunately for you, the gender spectrum was a accepted in psychology before tumblr was a thing, so...
Source please, or I call bullshit
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:32 pm
by Crazed Pirates » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:32 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?
by Puldania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:33 pm
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