Postgender

[The Parkus Empire]

We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.

I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."

What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?

[Irona]

We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.

I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."

What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?

Why do you care what other people identify as? I don't see what anyone gains from forcing people to conform. Shouldn't people have a right to decide for themselves?

[Klorgia1]

one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired does not correlate with one's sex.

Sources? As Gender is a human construct, human psychology (like what we learn as a child) and physical differences between men and women, not to mention chemistry ( ), is the lifeblood of gender. People are different, and there is no scientific gender. So thats why some people don't identify with their Sex's usually gender. Thats what my research has yielded, anyway.

Edit for below: I come to this conclusion via listening to professionals, psychologists and a bit of biology sprinkled throughout. Thanks for asking Glad I could answer so quickly

[Autumns]

one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired does not correlate with one's sex.

Sources? As Gender is a human construct, human psychology (like what we learn as a child) and physical differences between men and women, not to mention chemistry, is the lifeblood of gender. Thats what my research has yielded, anyway.

Are you a trained professional? How did you research this? I agree with what you are saying, but I am curious about your research.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

IDK, if someone wants to call themselves their own gender, why not? They're not harming anyone. They might change their minds after a while, they might remain happy how they are. Different strokes for different folks.

[Puldania]

Why do you care so much? There are actual issues in the world, no big deal whether someone runs a brick in your standard ignorant thought process.

[Aillyria]

We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.

I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."

What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?

The idea of "postgender" is ridiculous unless we're talking about robots or transhumanism. A regular person, cis or trans is gendered....period. Your a male or a female.

[Irona]

We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.

I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."

What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?

The idea of "postgender" is ridiculous unless we're talking about robots or transhumanism. A regular person, cis or trans is gendered....period. Your a male or a female.

Why? If gender is a mental/social state then there's no reason it should be defined by sex.

[Neutraligon]

Who knew I didn't exist. Just so you know I identify as agender. if someone can have an issue with their gender not matching the sex assigned at birth, it would make sense that there are people who cannot feel gender dysphoria at all, even if they suddenly woke up as the opposite sex.

[Novo Razcon]

If you are born a male, you are a male. If you are born a female, you are a female. That is how biology works.

[Flugel tribe]

I think it actually reflects reality much better. If we agree on “gender” being what the culture assigns your mentality, then it doesn’t make sense to use “male”, “female” or any other physical term to describe it.

Gender roles change from culture to culture, and even if there’s some similarities between most places, it’s true theoretically. Liking what the typical guy likes doesn’t mean your a guy trapped in a girls body, it means your a girl who likes these kinds of stuff.

I think both sides (the bigots and the 72 genders people) tend to stick to these categories because it’s simply romantic, but I find it completely sexist.

To me, saying that your a girl in a guys body is as absurd as saying you’re a black person in a white persons body or vice versa. We just don’t find “race roles” as romantic as “gender roles” so we’d be quick to judge if someone said the latter.

People used to correct gender dysphasia by praying, shock therapy and counseling, suggesting something is wrong with ones mentality. I think going through surgery is just the opposite, correcting the “problem” by suggesting something is wrong with ones body.

I remember as a kid idiots used to comment about my long hair or the fact I like to sing, saying this is what girls do, criticizing my likes and decisions. I’m afraid of a day where the opposite will happen and people will start encouraging physical changes to people for not acting like the typical sex. Hell, I’ve already had suggestion from “straight” guys to get a sex change so I can be their girlfriend because they liked my look, and my personality, but probably couldn’t face the possibility that maybe they aren’t 100% straight. Physically I’m a guy, and mentally, I’m some unique combination of biological and environmental history, just like everybody else. I don’t find this view as an “I’m a special snowflake” view, but as a rather realistic one.

Imo gender dysphoria isn’t a mental or physical disorder, it’s a symptom of a social disorder called gender roles.

If people want to keep the term “gender” to describe mentalities, the categories under the term have to be consisted of mental or behavioral descriptions, not physical ones.

P.S I just read some of the comments. All those people talking about biology and why there are two genders are ignorant of the difference between “sex” and “gender” and tbh, I can’t blame them much EXACTLY because we’re using physical terms to describe the mental. I think this is the root of most of the arguments about this topic and that most people might actually agree if they would realize the disagreement comes from different usage of those terms

[Conserative Morality]

Postgender is the result of individuals with a little knowledge (the most dangerous thing of all), confusing gender and gender roles and being aware that gender is a social construct - mistakenly taking this to mean that gender means nothing and they can be anything they want.

In reality, when academics mention gender as a social construct or a spectrum, they are referring to the labels we use for individuals. Making up new labels for already-recognized points on the spectrum is foolishness.

[Irona]

If you are born a male, you are a male. If you are born a female, you are a female. That is how biology works.

Sex isn't gender. Gender isn't biology anymore than someones personality is.

[Puldania]

If you are born a male, you are a male. If you are born a female, you are a female. That is how biology works.

But not how Psychology works.
Anyone with a High-School diploma should know this.

[The Parkus Empire]

IDK, if someone wants to call themselves their own gender, why not? They're not harming anyone. They might change their minds after a while, they might remain happy how they are. Different strokes for different folks.

Whatever they want. But their attaching themselves to a group with medical concerns is not right.

[Conserative Morality]

Reminds me of my discussions (as a humanities major) with one of my friends (who's a hard science major) about how species are just social constructs but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Forestavia]

We all know what gender dysphoria is: it is a medical condition where one's gender identity, which we now know to be hardwired, does not correlate with one's sex. This is a widely documented medical phenomenon.

I argue that postgenderism, "I'm my own gender, " or "no gender" has zero to do with this. Such positions have no medical support, and are basically "I'm a special snowflake, short and stout."

What are your opinions on "postgender" theory?

I agree with you that there is an I-want-to-be-special-too mentality plaguing our culture. However, only some of the cases may have psychological/medical reasons.

I've often wondered whether gender confusion could also be attributed to metaphysical reasons in the case of individuals who have access to information from their previous lives. Perhaps pieces of those previous incarnations have seeped into the subconscious mind of individuals struggling with this sort of thing in their present life.

So there's something else for you to chew on.

[Puldania]

IDK, if someone wants to call themselves their own gender, why not? They're not harming anyone. They might change their minds after a while, they might remain happy how they are. Different strokes for different folks.

Whatever they want. But their attaching themselves to a group with medical concerns is not right.

What do you propose they do then? Kill themselves? Ignore their own identity? Force them to be normal?
What solution do you have in mind that doesn't involve marginalizing someone?

[Neutraligon]

Reminds me of my discussions (as a humanities major) with one of my friends (who's a hard science major) about how species are just social constructs but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Species is supposed to denote different life forms that are unable to breed with each other and form fertile offspring. That isn't really a social construct. The fact that for extinct life forms we cannot be certain if they where unable to interbreed does not change the fact that species actually have meaning beyond a social construct.

[Puldania]

Reminds me of my discussions (as a humanities major) with one of my friends (who's a hard science major) about how species are just social constructs but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Species is supposed to denote different life forms that are unable to breed with each other and form fertile offspring. That isn't really a social construct. The fact that for extinct life forms we cannot be certain if they where unable to interbreed does not change the fact that species actually have meaning beyond a social construct.

well to be fair, everything is technically a social construct in that we define things by arbitrary terms that have been defined by us using more arbitrary terms.

[Neutraligon]

IDK, if someone wants to call themselves their own gender, why not? They're not harming anyone. They might change their minds after a while, they might remain happy how they are. Different strokes for different folks.

Whatever they want. But their attaching themselves to a group with medical concerns is not right.

You are assuming those who identify as something other then man/woman do not have gender dysphoria.

[Neutraligon]

Species is supposed to denote different life forms that are unable to breed with each other and form fertile offspring. That isn't really a social construct. The fact that for extinct life forms we cannot be certain if they where unable to interbreed does not change the fact that species actually have meaning beyond a social construct.

well to be fair, everything is technically a social construct in that we define things by arbitrary terms that have been defined by us using more arbitrary terms.

True but then the term loses any significant meaning.

[Conserative Morality]

Species is supposed to denote different life forms that are unable to breed with each other and form fertile offspring. That isn't really a social construct. The fact that for extinct life forms we cannot be certain if they where unable to interbreed does not change the fact that species actually have meaning beyond a social construct.

Not really m80. That's a rough definition that is disputed both in principle and in practice when you get down to the nitty-gritty. It's blurry for many extant species where one begins and the other ends, and reclassifications of groups as part of one species or splitting them into multiple species is common even today as biologists scritch and scratch at the specifics of each group.

[Puldania]

well to be fair, everything is technically a social construct in that we define things by arbitrary terms that have been defined by us using more arbitrary terms.

True but then the term loses any significant meaning.

It has no significant meaning. It's become a buzzword at this point.

[The Parkus Empire]

Reminds me of my discussions (as a humanities major) with one of my friends (who's a hard science major) about how species are just social constructs but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Species are not a social construct in the sense they cannot reproduce fertile offspring together. We did not construct that fact we just labeled it