Should Felons be Allowed to Vote? Florida to Have Referendum

[Telconi]

I never said that, in fact I've stated more than once, in this thread, that they should have their right's restored if they prove themselves to now be responsible

And how do they prove that?

A hearing.

[San Lumen]

And how do they prove that?

A hearing.

So your going to give 1.5 million people a hearing in Florida? It is impossible to give them all a hearing even if you did one hearing an hour for a year.

[NeoOasis]

A hearing.

So your going to give 1.5 million people a hearing in Florida? It is impossible to give them all a hearing even if you did one hearing an hour for a year.

I imagine initial backlog would be daunting to get through, but aftewards should be fairly feasible. An idea could be we start with a blank slate here, and let them vote immediately and if they mess up, start up that hearing process then.

[San Lumen]

So your going to give 1.5 million people a hearing in Florida? It is impossible to give them all a hearing even if you did one hearing an hour for a year.

I imagine initial backlog would be daunting to get through, but aftewards should be fairly feasible. An idea could be we start with a blank slate here, and let them vote immediately and if they mess up, start up that hearing process then.

That's what this referendum does. It gives all those currently disenfranchised due to felony conviction except those guilty of murder or sexual offenses the right to vote and applies to all future felons after their sentence is up.

[Telconi]

A hearing.

So your going to give 1.5 million people a hearing in Florida? It is impossible to give them all a hearing even if you did one hearing an hour for a year.

Then hold more than one every hour?

[San Lumen]

So your going to give 1.5 million people a hearing in Florida? It is impossible to give them all a hearing even if you did one hearing an hour for a year.

Then hold more than one every hour?

Its still not feasible to hold a hearing for 1.5 million people.

[Telconi]

Then hold more than one every hour?

Its still not feasible to hold a hearing for 1.5 million people.

The state of Florida held a felony trial for all those people, if it pulled that off it can hold a hearing to restore their rights.

[San Lumen]

Its still not feasible to hold a hearing for 1.5 million people.

The state of Florida held a felony trial for all those people, if it pulled that off it can hold a hearing to restore their rights.

You really don't think things through do you? Those people had trials over a period of many years.

[New Emeline]

Y'all realize people get falsely convicted, right? Or go to prison for really minor offenses?

[San Lumen]

Y'all realize people get falsely convicted, right? Or go to prison for really minor offenses?

Yes and thats part of the problem with felony disenfranchisement

[Telconi]

The state of Florida held a felony trial for all those people, if it pulled that off it can hold a hearing to restore their rights.

You really don't think things through do you? Those people had trials over a period of many years.

Well obviously the hearings wouldn't happen in the blink of an eye.

[Telconi]

Y'all realize people get falsely convicted, right? Or go to prison for really minor offenses?

And false convictions can be vacated, and minor offenses aren't felonies.

[San Lumen]

You really don't think things through do you? Those people had trials over a period of many years.

Well obviously the hearings wouldn't happen in the blink of an eye.

giving hearings to 1.5 million people individually would take a very long time. Its simple not feasible to do it for 8 hours a day five days a week.

[Telconi]

Well obviously the hearings wouldn't happen in the blink of an eye.

giving hearings to 1.5 million people individually would take a very long time. Its simple not feasible to do it for 8 hours a day five days a week.

Why not? Do the people who do the hearings get extra long weekends or something?

[San Lumen]

giving hearings to 1.5 million people individually would take a very long time. Its simple not feasible to do it for 8 hours a day five days a week.

Why not? Do the people who do the hearings get extra long weekends or something?

who do you think would do the hearings? Most government employees unless your work for the governor or President work five days a week and not weekends.

[Telconi]

Why not? Do the people who do the hearings get extra long weekends or something?

who do you think would do the hearings? Most government employees unless your work for the governor or President work five days a week and not weekends.

Okay, and so why can they not work 8 hours a day?

[San Lumen]

who do you think would do the hearings? Most government employees unless your work for the governor or President work five days a week and not weekends.

Okay, and so why can they not work 8 hours a day?

Because work rules say so. But if you have an issue with that that's a discussion for another thread.

[Telconi]

Okay, and so why can they not work 8 hours a day?

Because work rules say so. But if you have an issue with that that's a discussion for another thread.

What work rules? Eight hours per day is pretty standard, for well, most everybody.

[San Lumen]

Because work rules say so. But if you have an issue with that that's a discussion for another thread.

What work rules? Eight hours per day is pretty standard, for well, most everybody.

So you want someone to work more than eight hours to hold a hearing for 1.5 million people and a future felons instead of just amending the state constitution to eliminate felony disenfranchisement all together?

[Telconi]

What work rules? Eight hours per day is pretty standard, for well, most everybody.

So you want someone to work more than eight hours to hold a hearing for 1.5 million people and a future felons instead of just amending the state constitution to eliminate felony disenfranchisement all together?

Uh, no...

[San Lumen]

So you want someone to work more than eight hours to hold a hearing for 1.5 million people and a future felons instead of just amending the state constitution to eliminate felony disenfranchisement all together?

Uh, no...

And why not?

[Telconi]

Uh, no...

And why not?

Well I'd rather they work a normal 8 hour work day...

[LimpBizkit]

Late to the party, but I think that if they pay taxes and are mentally sound they should be able to vote.

[San Lumen]

And why not?

Well I'd rather they work a normal 8 hour work day...

Ok and as iv'e explained to you your proposal to hold hearings for all of them is not feasible. What do you have against this referendum? Why shouldn't one be able to vote after serving time in prison? This amendment excludes those convicted of murder or sexual offenses.

[Telconi]

Well I'd rather they work a normal 8 hour work day...

Ok and as iv'e explained to you your proposal to hold hearings for all of them is not feasible. What do you have against this referendum? Why shouldn't one be able to vote after serving time in prison? This amendment excludes those convicted of murder or sexual offenses.

Why isn't it feasible? You just ... hold a damn hearing ... the court system does that shit already...

It will give franchise to criminals, as I've stated, ad nauseum, to you, I have a problem with criminals receiving franchise.