Should Felons be Allowed to Vote? Florida to Have Referendum

[Infected Mushroom]

Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society. If criminals are allowed to vote, then it means the government isn't stern enough.

No it doesn't.

The high rate of repeat offenders says otherwise

[Washington Resistance Army]

No it doesn't.

The high rate of repeat offenders says otherwise

That's because we don't have an actual rehabilitation system amongst other things.

[Ifreann]

No it doesn't.

The high rate of repeat offenders says otherwise

The high rate of recidivism(what rate?) says that allowing criminals to vote means that the government isn't stern enough?

That doesn't make a lick of sense.

[San Lumen]

How is it a sign of weakness?

Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society. If criminals are allowed to vote, then it means the government isn't stern enough.

No it doesnt. It means giving those who served there time the rights they are entitled too.

[Infected Mushroom]

Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society. If criminals are allowed to vote, then it means the government isn't stern enough.

No it doesnt. It means giving those who served there time the rights they are entitled too.

no one is entitled to anything, it all stems from the government granting it in the first place, rights are entirely government granted

[NeoOasis]

No it doesnt. It means giving those who served there time the rights they are entitled too.

no one is entitled to anything, it all stems from the government granting it in the first place, rights are entirely government granted

In this case the punishment has been served. There is no need to further punish someone who hs been punished.

Taking away voting rights is silly as it is never part of the sentencing process. You get jail time and fines, but I don't recall "no voting rights" being part of the deal.

[San Lumen]

No it doesnt. It means giving those who served there time the rights they are entitled too.

no one is entitled to anything, it all stems from the government granting it in the first place, rights are entirely government granted

This coming from someone who thinks voting is a waste of time and can't be bothered taking 30 mins out their day to decide who their mayor or MP is. Someone who served their time in prison shouldn't be denied the right to vote for the rest of their days.

[Infected Mushroom]

no one is entitled to anything, it all stems from the government granting it in the first place, rights are entirely government granted

This coming from someone who thinks voting is a waste of time and can't be bothered taking 30 mins out their day to decide who their mayor or MP is. Someone who served their time in prison shouldn't be denied the right to vote for the rest of their days.

they should be, because they have shown disregard for the concept of laws, and voting is indirect law making power

there's a logical nexus for removing the voting power here

[New haven america]

No it doesn't.

The high rate of repeat offenders says otherwise

Yeah, because sending people to a place where they have to fear for their wellbeing almost everyday, take away their ability to learn usable skills, and ruin their life outside of prison and expecting them to become rehabilitated is totally sound logic.

[Ifreann]

This coming from someone who thinks voting is a waste of time and can't be bothered taking 30 mins out their day to decide who their mayor or MP is. Someone who served their time in prison shouldn't be denied the right to vote for the rest of their days.

they should be, because they have shown disregard for the concept of laws, and voting is indirect law making power

there's a logical nexus for removing the voting power here

Breaking the law doesn't show disrespect for the concept of laws.

[Infected Mushroom]

they should be, because they have shown disregard for the concept of laws, and voting is indirect law making power

there's a logical nexus for removing the voting power here

Breaking the law doesn't show disrespect for the concept of laws.

Nope.

It’s inherent to the act of crime.

[Datlofff]

This coming from someone who thinks voting is a waste of time and can't be bothered taking 30 mins out their day to decide who their mayor or MP is. Someone who served their time in prison shouldn't be denied the right to vote for the rest of their days.

they should be, because they have shown disregard for the concept of laws, and voting is indirect law making power

there's a logical nexus for removing the voting power here

Okay, felons should be allowed to vote. They served their time, and its their constitutional right. I mean hell, our founding fathers even wanted "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" for all. All rights, such as the right to choose, aka vote, are natural rights, which are inherently inalienable. Just because somebody at the age of 18 made a mistake and got locked up for 10 years, doesn't inherently mean he didn't learn his lesson. He should be allowed to vote.

[Datlofff]

Breaking the law doesn't show disrespect for the concept of laws.

Nope.

It’s inherent to the act of crime.

So when Ghandi did the salt march and created salt, which was against the law, to prove a point, he also apparently automatically disregarded all concept of laws, and shouldn't been able to vote from then forward?

[Datlofff]

No it doesnt. It means giving those who served there time the rights they are entitled too.

no one is entitled to anything, it all stems from the government granting it in the first place, rights are entirely government granted

People are entitled to their natural human rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Im sure a good lawyer could argue how voting can fall under the pursuit of happiness.

[Infected Mushroom]

Nope.

It’s inherent to the act of crime.

So when Ghandi did the salt march and created salt, which was against the law, to prove a point, he also apparently automatically disregarded all concept of laws, and shouldn't been able to vote from then forward?

He should have been executed for treason against the British empire

So yes, definitely his vote privilege should go

[Ifreann]

Breaking the law doesn't show disrespect for the concept of laws.

Nope.

It’s inherent to the act of crime.

No it isn't. That's stupid and unrealistic.

[San Lumen]

So when Ghandi did the salt march and created salt, which was against the law, to prove a point, he also apparently automatically disregarded all concept of laws, and shouldn't been able to vote from then forward?

He should have been executed for treason against the British empire

So yes, definitely his vote privilege should go

Wow. Every time i think you can't amaze with what you post you top it. I really wonder if you actually believe it or are just posting satire.

To your point why should committing one crime and serving time and then never committing a crime again mean you shouldnt ever vote again?

[Datlofff]

So when Ghandi did the salt march and created salt, which was against the law, to prove a point, he also apparently automatically disregarded all concept of laws, and shouldn't been able to vote from then forward?

He should have been executed for treason against the British empire

So yes, definitely his vote privilege should go

The British empire should of been held responsible for how horrible they were.

[Genivaria]

So when Ghandi did the salt march and created salt, which was against the law, to prove a point, he also apparently automatically disregarded all concept of laws, and shouldn't been able to vote from then forward?

He should have been executed for treason against the British empire

So yes, definitely his vote privilege should go

I thought you were starting to sound reasonable lately, my mistake.

[New Emeline]

So when Ghandi did the salt march and created salt, which was against the law, to prove a point, he also apparently automatically disregarded all concept of laws, and shouldn't been able to vote from then forward?

He should have been executed for treason against the British empire

So yes, definitely his vote privilege should go

First of all, YIKES
Second of all, you realize people are convicted wrongly, right? Or get arrested for really minor felonies? Why should we take away someone's right to vote because they vandalized a house when they were 18?

[Nambutu]

Depends on the felony. And there should be an appeals process for those who would have their franchise revoked.

[Hatterleigh]

Nobody should have their voting rights restricted (except for anyone under 18) tbh.

Why? It seems rather ignorant to let an unrestricted amount of people decide the fate of your nation

[New Emeline]

Nobody should have their voting rights restricted (except for anyone under 18) tbh.

Why? It seems rather ignorant to let an unrestricted amount of people decide the fate of your nation

Who decides who can vote then?

[Nambutu]

Why? It seems rather ignorant to let an unrestricted amount of people decide the fate of your nation

Who decides who can vote then?

I'll do it, just trust me.

[Telconi]

Why? It seems rather ignorant to let an unrestricted amount of people decide the fate of your nation

Who decides who can vote then?

Who decided that people under 18 shouldn't vote?