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Postby Ifreann » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:47 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What percentage of a demographic have to make something of themselves, whatever that means, before they get the right to vote?

I smell a trap here, and I'm not going to play.

I was just wondering why you were asking what percentage make something of themselves. If it isn't relevant to the right to vote then it would seem to be irrelevant.
Felons are distinct from most other demographics, you know.

So it's only felons that need some specific percentage to make something of themselves to be allowed to vote?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:47 am

Telconi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What percentage of a demographic have to make something of themselves, whatever that means, before they get the right to vote?


Felons are just born that way!

Oh, wait...

What?

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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Felons are just born that way!

Oh, wait...

What?


I'm mocking the comparison of a felon, to any natural demographic.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I smell a trap here, and I'm not going to play.

I was just wondering why you were asking what percentage make something of themselves. If it isn't relevant to the right to vote then it would seem to be irrelevant.

I was specifically asking what the hell San Lumen meant by "plenty" and "enough", because those both could mean anything.

Felons are distinct from most other demographics, you know.

So it's only felons that need some specific percentage to make something of themselves to be allowed to vote?

See above.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:53 am

Telconi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What?


I'm mocking the comparison of a felon, to any natural demographic.

No one was making any such comparison.


Proctopeo wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I was just wondering why you were asking what percentage make something of themselves. If it isn't relevant to the right to vote then it would seem to be irrelevant.

I was specifically asking what the hell San Lumen meant by "plenty" and "enough", because those both could mean anything.

So it's only felons that need some specific percentage to make something of themselves to be allowed to vote?

See above.

So does it matter, beyond being curious about what exactly San Lumen meant?
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'm mocking the comparison of a felon, to any natural demographic.

No one was making any such comparison.


Proctopeo wrote:I was specifically asking what the hell San Lumen meant by "plenty" and "enough", because those both could mean anything.


See above.

So does it matter, beyond being curious about what exactly San Lumen meant?

Not like I know.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'm mocking the comparison of a felon, to any natural demographic.

No one was making any such comparison.


Proctopeo wrote:I was specifically asking what the hell San Lumen meant by "plenty" and "enough", because those both could mean anything.


See above.

So does it matter, beyond being curious about what exactly San Lumen meant?


Then why bring up other demographics if not to compare?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:59 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So if someone who as an ex-felon was elected mayor of your town in to the State legislature from your district would you want them removed from office or kicked off the ballot before the election?


Yes.

why?

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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Yes.

why?


Be...Cause...He...Is...A...Fel...On...

How many times must I say it?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:03 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:why?


Be...Cause...He...Is...A...Fel...On...

How many times must I say it?


That is not an answer. What about being felon means they shouldn't be eligible for election?

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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Be...Cause...He...Is...A...Fel...On...

How many times must I say it?


That is not an answer. What about being felon means they shouldn't be eligible for election?


Answers you don't like are still answers, this hasn't changed.

The felony part...
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:07 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
That is not an answer. What about being felon means they shouldn't be eligible for election?


Answers you don't like are still answers, this hasn't changed.

The felony part...


Thats like saying because i said so. Again why shouldn't the mayor or Bridgeport be allowed to serve? Saying he served time in prison is not an answer. Be specific.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Answers you don't like are still answers, this hasn't changed.

The felony part...


Thats like saying because i said so. Again why shouldn't the mayor or Bridgeport be allowed to serve? Saying he served time in prison is not an answer. Be specific.


Because he served time in prison.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:10 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Thats like saying because i said so. Again why shouldn't the mayor or Bridgeport be allowed to serve? Saying he served time in prison is not an answer. Be specific.


Because he served time in prison.

So what?

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Answers you don't like are still answers, this hasn't changed.

The felony part...


Thats like saying because i said so. Again why shouldn't the mayor or Bridgeport be allowed to serve? Saying he served time in prison is not an answer. Be specific.

I find it funny that you're telling someone not to give a non-answer when you gave a major one yourself not too long ago.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:15 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Thats like saying because i said so. Again why shouldn't the mayor or Bridgeport be allowed to serve? Saying he served time in prison is not an answer. Be specific.

I find it funny that you're telling someone not to give a non-answer when you gave a major one yourself not too long ago.


When he says "X is not an answer" what he really means is "X is an opinion other than my own".

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Because he served time in prison.

So what?


So he shouldn't be allowed to serve...
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:17 pm

Telconi wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I find it funny that you're telling someone not to give a non-answer when you gave a major one yourself not too long ago.


When he says "X is not an answer" what he really means is "X is an opinion other than my own".

San Lumen wrote:So what?


So he shouldn't be allowed to serve...

Why'd shouldnt he be allowed to serve? The people voted for him in a free and fair election.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
When he says "X is not an answer" what he really means is "X is an opinion other than my own".



So he shouldn't be allowed to serve...

Why'd shouldnt he be allowed to serve? The people voted for him in a free and fair election.


I'm getting off the merry go round now... That question had been asked and answered ad nauseum and the fact that you still cannot register it is not my fault.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:22 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why'd shouldnt he be allowed to serve? The people voted for him in a free and fair election.


I'm getting off the merry go round now... That question had been asked and answered ad nauseum and the fact that you still cannot register it is not my fault.

Your not giving an answer. Just he's a felon so he shouldnt serve or they committed a crime therefore they shouldnt be allowed to vote. That's like saying the Earth doesn't curve when I sail on a river or walk down the street therefore its not round.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'm getting off the merry go round now... That question had been asked and answered ad nauseum and the fact that you still cannot register it is not my fault.

Your not giving an answer. Just he's a felon so he shouldnt serve or they committed a crime therefore they shouldnt be allowed to vote. That's like saying the Earth doesn't curve when I sail on a river or walk down the street therefore its not round.


No it is nothing like that. You just need to go work on reading comprehension because holy hell it's bad.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Your not giving an answer. Just he's a felon so he shouldnt serve or they committed a crime therefore they shouldnt be allowed to vote. That's like saying the Earth doesn't curve when I sail on a river or walk down the street therefore its not round.


No it is nothing like that. You just need to go work on reading comprehension because holy hell it's bad.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Telconi refuses to give an answer other than Hes a felon or They committed a crime therefore they shouldnt vote. Thats not an answer.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No it is nothing like that. You just need to go work on reading comprehension because holy hell it's bad.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Telconi refuses to give an answer other than Hes a felon or They committed a crime therefore they shouldnt vote. Thats not an answer.


Yes it fucking is, you just don't like it and refuse to accept it. That's on you, not him.
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Postby Deads Heads » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:26 pm

Stop hating democracy so much, Telconi. Nobody wants your snobbyass radical centrist aristocracy with apartheid from the deplorables of your choice.

Telconi wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I find it funny that you're telling someone not to give a non-answer when you gave a major one yourself not too long ago.


When he says "X is not an answer" what he really means is "X is an opinion other than my own".

And don't project your own martyrdom onto othersas you find out people don't find any sense in your arguments. It's pathetic.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:07 pm

Deads Heads wrote:Stop hating democracy so much, Telconi. Nobody wants your snobbyass radical centrist aristocracy with apartheid from the deplorables of your choice.

Telconi wrote:
When he says "X is not an answer" what he really means is "X is an opinion other than my own".

And don't project your own martyrdom onto othersas you find out people don't find any sense in your arguments. It's pathetic.


No.

Really? NOBODY? Seems unlikely that you speak for every person.

When has he said he doesn't find sense in my argument? He hasn't even yet registered it as an argument...
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
Deads Heads wrote:Stop hating democracy so much, Telconi. Nobody wants your snobbyass radical centrist aristocracy with apartheid from the deplorables of your choice.


And don't project your own martyrdom onto othersas you find out people don't find any sense in your arguments. It's pathetic.


No.

Really? NOBODY? Seems unlikely that you speak for every person.

When has he said he doesn't find sense in my argument? He hasn't even yet registered it as an argument...

You don't debate you just give one sentence replies. Saying someone shouldn't serve as mayor or should not vote because they are a felon isn't a answer. What's your basis for that statement?

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