Should Felons be Allowed to Vote? Florida to Have Referendum

[Internationalist Bastard]

Are you for real? what a stupid argument. what criminal acts are they going to vote to legalize?

Marijuana legalization.

Honestly, maybe this might be what's needed to finally get drug use decriminalized

[Telconi]

I'm not sure we want criminals voting. Seems likely they would just vote to legalize the very criminal acts that put them in prison in the first place.

And? If enough people think they should be legal for that to happen, why shouldn't they be legal?

Because it's a bad idea...

[Aillyria]

Are you for real? what a stupid argument. what criminal acts are they going to vote to legalize?

Marijuana legalization.

Alcohol and tobacco are legal, marijuana is much less harmful than either (it isn't at all really, tbh). I don't understand the logic behind it being illegal.

[Arlenton]

Whatever the hell they got incarcerated for in the first place.

Thats a ridiculous argument.

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

[San Lumen]

And? If enough people think they should be legal for that to happen, why shouldn't they be legal?

Because it's a bad idea...

why is it bad idea? you've failed to give a valid reason.

[Salandriagado]

And? If enough people think they should be legal for that to happen, why shouldn't they be legal?

Because it's a bad idea...

Why? Saying "it's bad because I say it is" isn't an argument.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Voting is a human right under international law, not a privilege.

Who's enforcing it?

The UN?

[Pilarcraft]

And? If enough people think they should be legal for that to happen, why shouldn't they be legal?

Because it's a bad idea...

"it's a bad idea" is not exactly a good argument though. being a bad idea does not discredit anything that's legally been put to vote.

[Telconi]

Whatever the hell they got incarcerated for in the first place.

Thats a ridiculous argument.

Because people who go to prison will never try to avoid going back right?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Voting is a human right under international law, not a privilege.

Who's enforcing it?

No one, because forcing countries to give their citizens rights is terrible /s

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Who's enforcing it?

No one, because forcing countries to give their citizens rights is terrible /s

Why?

[San Lumen]

Thats a ridiculous argument.

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

marijuana shouldnt be illegal. and that's the very point of this. Why should someone be barred from voting permanently for a minor drug offense? And this amendment doesn't give current inmates the right to vote.

[Arlenton]

Marijuana legalization.

Alcohol and tobacco are legal, marijuana is much less harmful than either (it isn't at all really, tbh). I don't understand the logic behind it being illegal.

Elected officials made it that way. If people don't like it, they elect other representatives who agree with them, which they have in some cases and in many others they have not.

[Greater Kossackia]

Thats a ridiculous argument.

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

You realize you're talking about something completely different, right? If you are still serving your sentence, then your voting right isn't restored until you sentence is complete.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Thats a ridiculous argument.

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

TBF, a lot of people who've never even touched the shit want it legal. It's like, the great bipartisan issue of America

[Arlenton]

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

marijuana shouldnt be illegal. and that's the very point of this. Why should someone be barred from voting permanently for a minor drug offense.

Because it is illegal.

So how is Telconi's argument ridiculous? You agree they would vote for legalization right?

[Internationalist Bastard]

No one, because forcing countries to give their citizens rights is terrible /s

Why?

Sarcasm, my dude. I worked for the UN for five years

[Telconi]

Because it's a bad idea...

Why? Saying "it's bad because I say it is" isn't an argument.

As much of an argument as "It's good because I say it is"

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

TBF, a lot of people who've never even touched the shit want it legal. It's like, the great bipartisan issue of America

Like me (even though I'm British, not American), I don't do weed but I want it legalised

[San Lumen]

marijuana shouldnt be illegal. and that's the very point of this. Why should someone be barred from voting permanently for a minor drug offense.

Because it is illegal.

So how is Telconi's argument ridiculous? You agree they would vote for legalization right?

If its on the ballot after they served their time why the heck not?

[Arlenton]

Because it is illegal.

So how is Telconi's argument ridiculous? You agree they would vote for legalization right?

If its on the ballot after they served their time why the heck not?

Thought you meant if they were still in prison.

[Internationalist Bastard]

So innmates who are serving a sentence for a marijuana related offense won't vote "yes" on referendums to legalize it?

marijuana shouldnt be illegal. and that's the very point of this. Why should someone be barred from voting permanently for a minor drug offense? And this amendment doesn't give current inmates the right to vote?

Exactly. This isn't going to lead to politicians who want to legalize rape and murder. This is going to lead to politicians who are going to try to legalize minor offenses like drugs, and make the prison system better.

[Greater Kossackia]

If its on the ballot after they served their time why the heck not?

Thought you meant if they were still in prison.

That is not the proposed amendment, as is pointed out in the OP and the cited articles. Why would he mean that?

[Telconi]

Because it is illegal.

So how is Telconi's argument ridiculous? You agree they would vote for legalization right?

If its on the ballot after they served their time why the heck not?

So lemme get this straight, by your own admission, those who have served jail time will vote to legalize the crime they were jailed for. But if I say they will it's rediculous.

Can you explain this?

[Aillyria]

Alcohol and tobacco are legal, marijuana is much less harmful than either (it isn't at all really, tbh). I don't understand the logic behind it being illegal.

Elected officials made it that way. If people don't like it, they elect other representatives who agree with them, which they have in some cases and in many others they have not.

Ok.....you do realize elected officials do their own thing right? They don't have to do anything, and sometimes even if they want to they can't.