Identity Politics

[Ostroeuropa]

And I say this as a centrist nationalist with syndicalist leanings.

Take the National Syndicalist pill my boi.

Southern nationalist syndicalism eh. I don't think i've ever been an adherent to an ideology as interesting as syndicalism for all its variations. Capitalism maybe.

[Liriena]

And I say this as a centrist nationalist with syndicalist leanings.

Take the National Syndicalist pill my boi.

Whever someone frames their right-wing ideology in terms of "pill taking", I can't help but chuckle at the thought that it all stems from a movie franchise created by two trans women.

[Conserative Morality]

To be fair, a lot of people on the left also think the whole "Clinton lost because of misogyny" argument is bollocks.

She lost by such a small margin in a few important states that I find it pretty plausible tbh. It would only have to be a small fraction of voters.

[The Liberated Territories]

Congrats OP, you've just invoked identity politics to prove your point, the thing that your target criticizes. No one gives a shit if a group has somewhat less females, or hispanics, or whatever than normal. Only far left Democrats do.

[Oil exporting People]

Whever someone frames their right-wing ideology in terms of "pill taking", I can't help but chuckle at the thought that it all stems from a movie franchise created by two trans women.

It's ironic usage, lad.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-the-same



Sure they do. They do only as long as we march in goosestep towards a progressive agenda. Otherwise we don't mean shit and your side is completely willing to throw us under the bus.

To be fair, a lot of people on the left also think the whole "Clinton lost because of misogyny" argument is bollocks.

Sorry, had to edit, but yes, not all leftists did, but the American left, as a political bloc, would rather see minorities agree with them 100% politically and vote in the interest of the left than truly reach out to our communities.

I mean, the view that this is right is pure IdPol, really, now there are American leftists as individuals who don't think IdPol is a good idea and that think "Clinton lost cus misogyny" are both bad ideas. However, the left as a representative bloc within the Democratic party are not the same as the individuals. This is a rather important distinction to make.

[Ostroeuropa]

To be fair, a lot of people on the left also think the whole "Clinton lost because of misogyny" argument is bollocks.

She lost by such a small margin in a few important states that I find it pretty plausible tbh. It would only have to be a small fraction of voters.

Why not the misandry? Likewise, a small fraction. Studies show that voters don't particularly discriminate against women candidates.
But I bet you she lost enough white males with her comments, and feminism in general alienated enough people over the years. Most republicans believe anti-white racism is prevalent, and men have it tougher than women. Trump also signaled to the MRM during the election a few times, and Betsy did eventually look at campus rape tribunals.

[Liriena]

Take the National Syndicalist pill my boi.

Southern nationalist syndicalism eh. I don't think i've ever been an adherent to an ideology as interesting as syndicalism for all its variations. Capitalism maybe.

I mean, capitalism has given us ancaps... but I still suscribe to the hypothesis that, if you scratch any random ancap, you're very likely to find some manner of far right ethno-nationalist Pepechet-kin underneath.

[Conserative Morality]

Sorry, had to edit, but yes, not all leftists did, but the American left, as a political bloc, would rather see minorities agree with them 100% politically and vote in the interest of the left than truly reach out to our communities.

"Political group would rather see the people it believes its policies will help agree with them ideologically rather than having to rely on pork barrel dicksucking to get their way"

Wow what a revelation

[War Gears]

And I say this as a centrist nationalist with syndicalist leanings.

Take the National Syndicalist pill my boi.

Took one a few years ago, didn't do anything. Mostly because I realized natsyn's are normally just corporatists pretending to be socialists.

Take the National Syndicalist pill my boi.

Whever someone frames their right-wing ideology in terms of "pill taking", I can't help but chuckle at the thought that it all stems from a movie franchise created by two trans women.

What if a transwoman frames her right-wing ideology as "pill-taking?"

[Liriena]

Whever someone frames their right-wing ideology in terms of "pill taking", I can't help but chuckle at the thought that it all stems from a movie franchise created by two trans women.

It's ironic usage, lad.

"""ironic"""

[Liriena]

Whever someone frames their right-wing ideology in terms of "pill taking", I can't help but chuckle at the thought that it all stems from a movie franchise created by two trans women.

What if a transwoman frames her right-wing ideology as "pill-taking?"

Reality folds on itself and we all become unidimensional beings?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Sorry, had to edit, but yes, not all leftists did, but the American left, as a political bloc, would rather see minorities agree with them 100% politically and vote in the interest of the left than truly reach out to our communities.

"Political group would rather see the people it believes its policies will help agree with them ideologically rather than having to rely on pork barrel dicksucking to get their way"

Wow what a revelation

At least it's a fair criticism, instead of thinking minorities have to suck dick to the political group to survive because "hey, at least they promise you equality, never mind they never deliver". But I guess that's a hard pill to swallow for some.

[Ostroeuropa]

What if a transwoman frames her right-wing ideology as "pill-taking?"

Reality folds on itself and we all become unidimensional beings?

I can confirm this does not occur. Though she'd say she was a woman, not a transwoman.

[War Gears]

Take the National Syndicalist pill my boi.

Southern nationalist syndicalism eh.

I'm having flash backs to that time I wrote a "Southern national syndicalist manifesto" at 15 and called the South a "proletarian nation" which had fought against the "bourgeois Yankee plutocracy."

[Ostroeuropa]

Southern nationalist syndicalism eh.

I'm having flash backs to that time I wrote a "Southern national syndicalist manifesto" at 15 and called the South a "proletarian nation" which had fought against the "bourgeois Yankee plutocracy."

I knew there was a reason I liked the south. You've managed to express it beautifully.

[Conserative Morality]

At least it's a fair criticism, instead of thinking minorities have to suck dick to the political group to survive because "hey, at least they promise you equality, never mind they never deliver". But I guess that's a hard pill to swallow for some.

That might be more ideologically concerning if they delivered to others instead of just failing all the time.

[Liriena]

She lost by such a small margin in a few important states that I find it pretty plausible tbh. It would only have to be a small fraction of voters.

Why not the misandry? Likewise, a small fraction. Studies show that voters don't particularly discriminate against women candidates.
But I bet you she lost enough white males with her comments, and feminism in general alienated enough people over the years. Most republicans believe anti-white racism is prevalent, and men have it tougher than women. Trump also signaled to the MRM during the election a few times, and Betsy did eventually look at campus rape tribunals.

It is true that cultural resentment/anxiety played a large role in the 2016 election. And without an inspiring socioeconomic platform to fall back on, Clinton was kind of screwed.

[War Gears]

It's ironic usage, lad.

"""ironic"""

Okay, let's be real, the far-right's entire existence at this point is ironic.

I'm having flash backs to that time I wrote a "Southern national syndicalist manifesto" at 15 and called the South a "proletarian nation" which had fought against the "bourgeois Yankee plutocracy."

I knew there was a reason I liked the south. You've managed to express it beautifully.

There's not really anything more plutocratic than exempting wealthy slave owners from fighting the war they started though.

[Conserative Morality]

I'm having flash backs to that time I wrote a "Southern national syndicalist manifesto" at 15 and called the South a "proletarian nation" which had fought against the "bourgeois Yankee plutocracy."

The South was a proletarian nation.

Featuring: Proletarians

[Liriena]

"Political group would rather see the people it believes its policies will help agree with them ideologically rather than having to rely on pork barrel dicksucking to get their way"

Wow what a revelation

At least it's a fair criticism, instead of thinking minorities have to suck dick to the political group to survive because "hey, at least they promise you equality, never mind they never deliver". But I guess that's a hard pill to swallow for some.

That the Democratic Party's establishment has taken minority voters for granted and offered them very little of substance is true.

[Conserative Morality]

There's not really anything more plutocratic than exempting wealthy slave owners from fighting the war they started though.

No, it's okay, they were aristocrats, which are good, not plutocrats, who are bad.

[Oil exporting People]

"""ironic"""

> TFW you just discovered an end run around the Triple Parenthesis ban

Southern nationalist syndicalism eh. I don't think i've ever been an adherent to an ideology as interesting as syndicalism for all its variations. Capitalism maybe.

Don't want to threadjack, but I've changed the Southern Nationalist in my sig to Hegemonist because I think what I'm actually advocating for is bit different than the way most people take plain "Southern Nationalism".

Took one a few years ago, didn't do anything. Mostly because I realized natsyn's are normally just corporatists pretending to be socialists.

That's pretty much how I view it, although the problem is others on the Right thinking you're a NazBol or something.

[Ostroeuropa]

Why not the misandry? Likewise, a small fraction. Studies show that voters don't particularly discriminate against women candidates.
But I bet you she lost enough white males with her comments, and feminism in general alienated enough people over the years. Most republicans believe anti-white racism is prevalent, and men have it tougher than women. Trump also signaled to the MRM during the election a few times, and Betsy did eventually look at campus rape tribunals.

It is true that cultural resentment/anxiety played a large role in the 2016 election. And without an inspiring socioeconomic platform to fall back on, Clinton was kind of screwed.

Framing it as resentment/anxiety is utilizing the kind of exclusionary framework that led to the problem in the first place. These people were not anxious about losing privilege like that dog whistle implies, nor resentful of that fact. They have issues that the progressive movement has routinely ignored and suppressed, while demonizing them. Trump won in part because he promised economic reform, and in part because he appealed to those sick of progressives and the prejudice progressivism has fostered.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

At least it's a fair criticism, instead of thinking minorities have to suck dick to the political group to survive because "hey, at least they promise you equality, never mind they never deliver". But I guess that's a hard pill to swallow for some.

That might be more ideologically concerning if they delivered to others instead of just failing all the time.

If they fail all the time, you're going to see a lot of people who won't take you seriously anymore on your claims of equality.

Not to mention the fact the very people for minorities end up throwing lovely tantrums about us when they don't get their way.