Flag Redesign - Israel/Palestine

[Luziyca]

If done right.

Cyprus and the united Korea flag seem to do a pretty great job in that regard. Brown County, Nebraska, on the other hand...

I must admit we'll need to agree to disagree on the United Korea and Cypriot flags (though you've probably noticed that I like one aspect of the Cypriot flag).
An issue with a map-based flag in the middle east is the fluid nature of borders there.

Fair enough. It is just a map-based flag in my opinion is non-religious, meaning that it won't offend Muslims, Jews, Christians, or whoever. However, it runs the risk of offending Palestinians who probably don't want to be part of Israel, and vice-versa, but that's a whole different subject.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

I must admit we'll need to agree to disagree on the United Korea and Cypriot flags (though you've probably noticed that I like one aspect of the Cypriot flag).
An issue with a map-based flag in the middle east is the fluid nature of borders there.

Fair enough. It is just a map-based flag in my opinion is non-religious, meaning that it won't offend Muslims, Jews, Christians, or whoever. However, it runs the risk of offending Palestinians who probably don't want to be part of Israel, and vice-versa, but that's a whole different subject.

I sympathise for the need for impartial symbols but that is extremely difficult when one tries to convey a culture or heritage.
As I indicated earlier, the hexagram is probably the closest thing we have to a joint symbol of Judaism and Islam (as well as Christianity), so I think it does the best job at representing that nation.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Maybe we should go for an uncontroversial design featuring a Jewish-looking fellow whacking Muhammed with a shoe.

[Thermodolia]

Maybe we should go for an uncontroversial design featuring a Jewish-looking fellow whacking Muhammed with a shoe.

I vote for this one.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

Maybe we should go for an uncontroversial design featuring a Jewish-looking fellow whacking Muhammed with a shoe.

No... just no...
Please don't continue with this.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

Maybe we should go for an uncontroversial design featuring a Jewish-looking fellow whacking Muhammed with a shoe.

I vote for this one.

How is that better than my proposal?

[Thermodolia]

I vote for this one.

How is that better than my proposal?

Because it shows that Israel is stronk!

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

How is that better than my proposal?

Because it shows that Israel is stronk!

Adoption of that flag would be an invitation for war with a massive portion of the world.
Not a good start for a design.

[Kibbutz Unions]

< I prefer my design. I imagine it to be the flag of a socialist Israel that has ended the occupation.

[Mushet]

I recall a former poster named DogDoo7 or something similar recoloring the accents in the Israeli flag to red, green, and black to use as his flag. Seemed to convey the message quite well, though I guess it stills centers Jewish identity more.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

< I prefer my design. I imagine it to be the flag of a socialist Israel that has ended the occupation.

I'm not a socialist but I think your flag would work better if you swapped the colours.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

I recall a former poster named DogDoo7 or something similar recoloring the accents in the Israeli flag to red, green, and black to use as his flag. Seemed to convey the message quite well, though I guess it stills centers Jewish identity more.

Any chance you could throw this together so we can see?

[Kibbutz Unions]

< I prefer my design. I imagine it to be the flag of a socialist Israel that has ended the occupation.

I'm not a socialist but I think your flag would work better if you swapped the colours.

You're unto something here.

[Salandriagado]

The one on the left is good. The one on the right has an unreadable blob in the middle that nobody will ever be able to recognise accurately.



For the ones in the OP: you've made it more complicated and expensive for no actual benefit, so no.

I agree that the writing isn't good on that flag (I'd remove it if I ran Italy).
How would you feel about it without the writing?

The whole crest is too complicated. Just the star might be OK.

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As for the OP: It's slightly more complex but still a lot less so than many national flags (including the Union Flag and Stars & Stripes which are two of the most popular and iconic in the world).
Nowadays the vast majority of flags are printed so the expense shouldn't change for everyday users.
I've outlined benefits in symbolism.
Given that the role of a flag is that it serves as a symbol, surely the best benefits a flag can have is to have improved symbolism.

I think both the Union Jack and the Stars & Stripes are too complicated as well (and the latter too blatantly stolen from the East India Company).

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

I agree that the writing isn't good on that flag (I'd remove it if I ran Italy).
How would you feel about it without the writing?

The whole crest is too complicated. Just the star might be OK.

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As for the OP: It's slightly more complex but still a lot less so than many national flags (including the Union Flag and Stars & Stripes which are two of the most popular and iconic in the world).
Nowadays the vast majority of flags are printed so the expense shouldn't change for everyday users.
I've outlined benefits in symbolism.
Given that the role of a flag is that it serves as a symbol, surely the best benefits a flag can have is to have improved symbolism.

I think both the Union Jack and the Stars & Stripes are too complicated as well (and the latter too blatantly stolen from the East India Company).

I must disagree when it comes to the Stars and Stripes and the East india Trading company.
Though it is immediately obvious that the Grand Union is related to the Company's defaced red ensigns, I don't think that this is theft.
Inspiration is common in flags and is a good way to show relatedness.
At the beginning of the revolution, the main intent wasn't full severance from the Empire or betrayal of the crown but the right for representation and/or a greater degree of home rule.
It is thought that this is why the flag of the Company was emulated for the Company also was against unfair taxation and was allowed a large leash in its rule in India.
It seems appropriate to me that the United States had a Company like ensign as its flag.

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I disagree with your evaluation of the Union Flag and Stars & Stripes but that's simply my opinion.

[Central Asian Republics]

< I prefer my design. I imagine it to be the flag of a socialist Israel that has ended the occupation.

I just imagine it to be the Israel flag with the hue shifted. We all have opinions.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

< I prefer my design. I imagine it to be the flag of a socialist Israel that has ended the occupation.

I just imagine it to be the Israel flag with the hue shifted. We all have opinions.

Savage, but funny.

[-Ocelot-]

>2018
>still proposing flags without smug anime girls

>2018
>Still greentexting outside of 4chan

[Heloin]

The problem I have with it is that it's a bit more complicated than it needs to be. Ignoring any personal feelings I may have over Israel, I feel the there flag is among the best designed on earth. This just makes it a bit more complex without adding anything really.

The second big issue which you tried to address is that you want this to be a unifying flag for both the Israeli and Palestinian peoples. That's ludicrous. This flag has nothing to represent the Palestinian people, and Olive branch's do not accomplish that.

[Dumb Ideologies]

>2018
>still proposing flags without smug anime girls

>2018
>Still greentexting outside of 4chan

>2018
>still no cure for green/black colourblindness
>people still think the format originated on 4chan

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

>2018
>Still greentexting outside of 4chan

>2018
>still no cure for green/black colourblindness
>people still think the format originated on 4chan

Please take this to a greentext thread, your discussion is completely irrelevant to the discussion now.

[Kenmoria]

The wreath is too near to be bottom and adds nothing aesthetically, but that isn't the main problem with the flag. My main grievance is that the flag of Israel has nothing inherently wrong with it that needs fixing, so doing so is just unnecessary.

[Tzion and Jerusalem]

The wreath is too near to be bottom and adds nothing aesthetically, but that isn't the main problem with the flag. My main grievance is that the flag of Israel has nothing inherently wrong with it that needs fixing, so doing so is just unnecessary.

Raising the leaves knocks the star out of place.
I agree that its unnecessary, it's just for fun.

[Mushet]

>2018
>still proposing flags without smug anime girls

>2018
>Still greentexting outside of 4chan

>2018
>Still calling meme arrows greentexting

[Judah]

< I prefer my design. I imagine it to be the flag of a socialist Israel that has ended the occupation.

Ugh. Please, no.