New California's Secession From (Old) California

[Reploid Productions]

Depends what you mean by "majority" in this situation.

"Enough people in favor to ram the issue through the ballot box or by force", and neither such majority exists.

[Neutraligon]

representation in the house.

Don't forget the Electoral College!
*Cries about 2016*

And that.

[Proctopeo]

Depends what you mean by "majority" in this situation.


A state wouldn't willingly give up its land without good reason, no.
Just give them an offer... an offer they can't refuse.

a majority of people in the inland areas of the state.

Depending on what the state government does, that's not impossible to achieve.

[San Lumen]

a majority of people in the inland areas of the state.

Depending on what the state government does, that's not impossible to achieve.

and how many times has this been proposed and how many times has it gotten anywhere? Oh that's right zero!

[Proctopeo]

Depending on what the state government does, that's not impossible to achieve.

and how many times has this been proposed and how many times has it gotten anywhere? Oh that's right zero!

Just because something has yet to get anywhere doesn't mean it never will.

[Kaschuct]

I have said this before and I will say it again. Secession is not going to happen. The American Civil War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War) made that very clear. And Texas v. White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White) made just added some extra ground to back it up.

[Reploid Productions]

I have said this before and I will say it again. Secession is not going to happen. The American Civil War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War) made that very clear. And Texas v. White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White) made just added some extra ground to back it up.

Read the OP, this one isn't "secede from the Union" flavor, it's the equally unlikely "split California into multiple US states" flavor.

[The Black Forrest]

and how many times has this been proposed and how many times has it gotten anywhere? Oh that's right zero!

Just because something has yet to get anywhere doesn't mean it never will.

You mean there is still a chance I can have a night with Elena Satine or Scarlett Johansson?

[Proctopeo]

Just because something has yet to get anywhere doesn't mean it never will.

You mean there is still a chance I can have a night with Elena Satine or Scarlett Johansson?

Yes, actually. It's highly unlikely but not impossible.

[Telconi]

Just because something has yet to get anywhere doesn't mean it never will.

You mean there is still a chance I can have a night with Elena Satine or Scarlett Johansson?

No, some things will never happen, but not be a use they haven't yet...

[Montchevre]

At first my reaction was simple amusement. Now I am concerned. This kind of secessionist fervor is ridiculous, even if it is "just" from the state. This is just one more facet of the growing anti-government sentiment that is doing its best to kill this country. So all the, shall I say, rural residents want to secede because the state government is too liberal for them? Because they protest high taxes while enjoying the benefits of living in California? This is short-sighted and stupid. It cannot, should not, and will not happen.

[Thermodolia]

I have said this before and I will say it again. Secession is not going to happen. The American Civil War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War) made that very clear. And Texas v. White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White) made just added some extra ground to back it up.

Read the OP, this one isn't "secede from the Union" flavor, it's the equally unlikely "split California into multiple US states" flavor.

OP should really change that then.

[Reploid Productions]

At first my reaction was simple amusement. Now I am concerned. This kind of secessionist fervor is ridiculous, even if it is "just" from the state. This is just one more facet of the growing anti-government sentiment that is doing its best to kill this country. So all the yokels rural residents want to secede because the state government is too liberal for them? Because they protest high taxes while enjoying the benefits of living in California? This is short-sighted and stupid. It cannot, should not, and will not happen.

It's nothing to be concerned about. This sort of nonsense has been proposed by the same tiny entitled group of people time and time again for decades. It's not even half of the rural residents in favor, we're probably talking less than 10% of the population (and that estimate is being outrageously generous).

Pretty much comes up like clockwork every couple of years with slightly different window dressing, and the effort invariably fails to clear the first hurdle before it fizzles out.

[Gig em Aggies]

Sauces:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/01/16/new-california-declares-independence-california-bid-become-51st-state/1036681001/

So another talk about secession but this time instead of leaving the US the people want to leave a state. The rural counties of California want to leave the State and form the state of New California this would leave the Coastal Urban counties that house cities such as San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles, and San Diego to be what is left of the state of California.

My thoughts in regards to the statehood aspect is if they want it let them do it at least it wouldn't be like Puerto Rico, or D.C. vying for statehood. Plus it would give people better options when moving to the West coast if these people can show they can run effectively and efficiently. So what do you people think? Especially those who were born or lived or still live in California

One thing OP San Diego would be apart of the new CA not apart of the old CA

oh okay I looked at a map that was partial cut off when I wrote this.

[Montchevre]

At first my reaction was simple amusement. Now I am concerned. This kind of secessionist fervor is ridiculous, even if it is "just" from the state. This is just one more facet of the growing anti-government sentiment that is doing its best to kill this country. So all the, shall we say, rural residents want to secede because the state government is too liberal for them? Because they protest high taxes while enjoying the benefits of living in California? This is short-sighted and stupid. It cannot, should not, and will not happen.

It's nothing to be concerned about. This sort of nonsense has been proposed by the same tiny entitled group of people time and time again for decades. It's not even half of the rural residents in favor, we're probably talking less than 10% of the population (and that estimate is being outrageously generous).

Pretty much comes up like clockwork every couple of years with slightly different window dressing, and the effort invariably fails to clear the first hurdle before it fizzles out.

Oh thank god! I was worried for a second. I kind of assumed that, but you never really know these days.

[Greed and Death]

Trump and congress might just grant them statehood just so to stack the Senate.

[Gig em Aggies]

Read the OP, this one isn't "secede from the Union" flavor, it's the equally unlikely "split California into multiple US states" flavor.

OP should really change that then.

I did it on purpose and if I change it that defeats the purpose of the title.

[Thermodolia]

OP should really change that then.

I did it on purpose and if I change it that defeats the purpose of the title.

Well people are being mislead. So I’d recommend you change it

[Montchevre]

Trump and congress might just grant them statehood just so to stack the Senate.

They could never usurp the authority of the states like that.

Then again, like I said above, you never know these days. They were able to cut the states' ability to tax at the ankles, and no one batted an eye.

[Sovaal]

At first my reaction was simple amusement. Now I am concerned. This kind of secessionist fervor is ridiculous, even if it is "just" from the state. This is just one more facet of the growing anti-government sentiment that is doing its best to kill this country. So all the, shall I say, rural residents want to secede because the state government is too liberal for them? Because they protest high taxes while enjoying the benefits of living in California? This is short-sighted and stupid. It cannot, should not, and will not happen.

Abs said over and over, this is a fringe minority.


And it’s probably a good idea to not like the government.

[San Lumen]

It's nothing to be concerned about. This sort of nonsense has been proposed by the same tiny entitled group of people time and time again for decades. It's not even half of the rural residents in favor, we're probably talking less than 10% of the population (and that estimate is being outrageously generous).

Pretty much comes up like clockwork every couple of years with slightly different window dressing, and the effort invariably fails to clear the first hurdle before it fizzles out.

Oh thank god! I was worried for a second. I kind of assumed that, but you never really know these days.

This sort of thing has come up in my state too. Its never even gotten a vote and neither will this.

[The South Falls]

At first my reaction was simple amusement. Now I am concerned. This kind of secessionist fervor is ridiculous, even if it is "just" from the state. This is just one more facet of the growing anti-government sentiment that is doing its best to kill this country. So all the, shall I say, rural residents want to secede because the state government is too liberal for them? Because they protest high taxes while enjoying the benefits of living in California? This is short-sighted and stupid. It cannot, should not, and will not happen.

Abs said over and over, this is a fringe minority.


And it’s probably a good idea to not like the government.

A somewhat suprisingly vocal fringe minority. Reminds me of our president's base.

Oh thank god! I was worried for a second. I kind of assumed that, but you never really know these days.

This sort of thing has come up in my state too. Its never even gotten a vote and neither will this.

Why would someone vote yea on being cut off from federal aid and support? Especially California, who with the fires and the mudslide, needs the FG more than ever. If they left, they would be on their own, and would be on their knees in months. Maybe even weeks.

[NERVUN]

I don't believe in it california may be rich but if they are liberal then staying with the US would be better for them

The "Reeeee" thing doesn't fly here. I suggest that if you want your stay to be long, you read up on The Rules.

[Hatterleigh]

If cali secedes, we won't have to deal with cleaning up their earthquakes and fires.

[Telconi]

Abs said over and over, this is a fringe minority.


And it’s probably a good idea to not like the government.

A somewhat suprisingly vocal fringe minority. Reminds me of our president's base.

This sort of thing has come up in my state too. Its never even gotten a vote and neither will this.

Why would someone vote yea on being cut off from federal aid and support? Especially California, who with the fires and the mudslide, needs the FG more than ever. If they left, they would be on their own, and would be on their knees in months. Maybe even weeks.

Some people have priorities above and beyond Federal 'gimme dat's