NationStates

Fartsniffage wrote:

Insaeldor wrote:I though her sentence was just commuted, was she actually pardoned?

I....honestly don't know.

In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[204] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence.[18][205] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[205][206] Notwithstanding her commutation, Manning's military appeal will continue, with her attorney saying, "We fight in her appeal to clear her name."[207]

On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office. As The Guardian summarized it, she saw Obama's legacy as "a warning against not being bold enough."[208] In response, President Donald Trump tweeted that Manning was an "ungrateful traitor" and should "never have been released."[209]

Purpelia wrote:Does it even matter? What kind of psychotic political party endorses someone convicted of spying as a political candidate?

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
I....honestly don't know.

The all-knowing wiki says thus:

In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[204] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence.[18][205] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[205][206] Notwithstanding her commutation, Manning's military appeal will continue, with her attorney saying, "We fight in her appeal to clear her name."[207]

On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office. As The Guardian summarized it, she saw Obama's legacy as "a warning against not being bold enough."[208] In response, President Donald Trump tweeted that Manning was an "ungrateful traitor" and should "never have been released."[209]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

Internationalist Bastard wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
The all-knowing wiki says thus:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

Ok, quick aside, I'm not comfortable having a senator I think is hot

Thermodolia wrote:

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ok, quick aside, I'm not comfortable having a senator I think is hot

Eh it’s not to bad. I mean Brian Sims and Aaron Shock where both elected and they are hot

Greater USA wrote:I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a commutation for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.

Uiiop wrote:The shit's she known shows integrity either you approve or disapprove of it. That kinda puts her up for the list celebrity candidates/suggestions if not at the top in my eyes.

Greed and Death wrote:

Uiiop wrote:The shit's she known shows integrity either you approve or disapprove of it. That kinda puts her up for the list celebrity candidates/suggestions if not at the top in my eyes.

Leaking classified information and diplomatic cables is poor judgement and far from integrity.

Greater USA wrote:I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a pardon for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.

Conserative Morality wrote:Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?

Insaeldor wrote:

Greater USA wrote:I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a commutation for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.

Ftfy

Internationalist Bastard wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?

She can stay with me.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Internationalist Bastard wrote:She can stay with me.

Make sure you keep her out of my state.

Internationalist Bastard wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:Make sure you keep her out of my state.

Don't worry, I'll watch her all day

Conserative Morality wrote:Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?

Insaeldor wrote:I still hate Manning because the day she got out I was doing crossing guard at the school down the road from the base she was at and almost got my shit kicked in my a news van.

Katganistan wrote:Democratic party would be crazy to run her. Too much toxicity in her background.

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Don't worry, I'll watch her all day

Can I suggest a good quality property in Maryland to live with your new sweetie Manning?

I hear Maryland is a lovely place.

Katganistan wrote:

Insaeldor wrote:I still hate Manning because the day she got out I was doing crossing guard at the school down the road from the base she was at and almost got my shit kicked in my a news van.

What? This doesn't make sense.

Internationalist Bastard wrote:

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Can I suggest a good quality property in Maryland to live with your new sweetie Manning?

I hear Maryland is a lovely place.

I'm from Washington DC. Maryland's beautiful, but I'm required by loyalty to say it sucks