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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:42 am

Stock Prices will only ever rise if people believe they can make money off of it. The gains Chrysler has made are a reflection of people's faith in trumps ability to make it profitable. Regardless for better or for worse Trumps propaganda has worked.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:47 am

Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.
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Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:49 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.


Forcing through a massively unpopular and potentially suicidal tax bill is all the GOP have managed to accomplish this administration. People gotta cling to that and parade it however they can.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:51 am

Good for Detroit, they need Jobs. I do realize that Detriot isn't gonna magically become great again instantly like that, but it is a step forward in making shit city a mediocre city
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:52 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.

Any better ideas?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:53 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.

Hooray for pessimism! :lol:
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:54 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:56 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.


Forcing through a massively unpopular and potentially suicidal tax bill is all the GOP have managed to accomplish this administration. People gotta cling to that and parade it however they can.

Eh, the tax bill will work out in the long run. It's bad early on due to corporate slow reactions (it's about as bureaucratic as the DMV when it comes to change). Money will eventually get to the people, but it'll be a slow and arduous process.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:04 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Forcing through a massively unpopular and potentially suicidal tax bill is all the GOP have managed to accomplish this administration. People gotta cling to that and parade it however they can.

Eh, the tax bill will work out in the long run. It's bad early on due to corporate slow reactions (it's about as bureaucratic as the DMV when it comes to change). Money will eventually get to the people, but it'll be a slow and arduous process.

I'm not that sure about the long-term effects, but let's go on and see.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:09 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Eh, the tax bill will work out in the long run. It's bad early on due to corporate slow reactions (it's about as bureaucratic as the DMV when it comes to change). Money will eventually get to the people, but it'll be a slow and arduous process.

I'm not that sure about the long-term effects, but let's go on and see.

Yeah, I mean you got to get into corporate politics to really rationalize why it gets to the people eventually. It depends on the type of corporation too. Most corporations have a council design making it not some rich jerk making demands.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:10 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Forcing through a massively unpopular and potentially suicidal tax bill is all the GOP have managed to accomplish this administration. People gotta cling to that and parade it however they can.

Eh, the tax bill will work out in the long run. It's bad early on due to corporate slow reactions (it's about as bureaucratic as the DMV when it comes to change). Money will eventually get to the people, but it'll be a slow and arduous process.


Are we seriously still pretending that trickle-down economics isn't abject bullshit?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:11 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.

What did the doctor tell you Herp? He said no more anger and pessimism, it's bad for your health

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.

Hooray for pessimism! :lol:


More like reality checked optimsm.

Petrolheadia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe I should clear things up:

Yay. His tax policy did something good.

Woo.

Detroit will still suck to live in, just less sucky then before.

Walmart and chunks of Comcast still suck to work for, just less sucky then before.

And CHIP is still going to die.

But here, he did a good thing. Yay. Woo.

Any better ideas?


1. Don't let CHIP die.

2. Target executives with tax bill while still lowering taxes on the middle class and lower land ownership tax for industrial areas.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:13 am

If this is supposed to be about sucking up to Trump, why didn't OP post it in the megathread?

Yay for that new factory I guess. Here's hoping they treat their workers well and this isn't just another ploy for a big corporation to look nice and generous while laying off thousands.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:13 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:What did the doctor tell you Herp? He said no more anger and pessimism, it's bad for your health

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hooray for pessimism! :lol:


More like reality checked optimsm.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:14 am

Vassenor wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Eh, the tax bill will work out in the long run. It's bad early on due to corporate slow reactions (it's about as bureaucratic as the DMV when it comes to change). Money will eventually get to the people, but it'll be a slow and arduous process.


Are we seriously still pretending that trickle-down economics isn't abject bullshit?

Geesh, Vassenor, what are the chances that trickle down will fail again like it did under Bush Jr.?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:15 am

Vassenor wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Eh, the tax bill will work out in the long run. It's bad early on due to corporate slow reactions (it's about as bureaucratic as the DMV when it comes to change). Money will eventually get to the people, but it'll be a slow and arduous process.


Are we seriously still pretending that trickle-down economics isn't abject bullshit?

Are we seriously still pretending that "tax the rich" economics isn't abject bullshit?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:15 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

More like reality checked optimsm.

Are you having grief? This is the first stage, denial


>Implying that Detroit doesn't suck
>Implying that Walmart and parts of Comcast doesn't suck to work for


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Postby Liriena » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:16 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Are we seriously still pretending that trickle-down economics isn't abject bullshit?

Are we seriously still pretending that "tax the rich" economics isn't abject bullshit?

Childishness is not an argument.
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:16 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Yeah, I mean you got to get into corporate politics to really rationalize why it gets to the people eventually. It depends on the type of corporation too. Most corporations have a council design making it not some rich jerk making demands.


So ten rich jerks instead of one.

Also, gonna say that the corporations have a strong short-term interest in looking good around the tax cut. For now, we'll see them making nice. Wait four years and this is all going down the drain. Tax cut also notably didn't save Carrier (going to Mexico), and I'm not looking forward to them trashing social security to "pay" for this.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:17 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Are we seriously still pretending that trickle-down economics isn't abject bullshit?

Are we seriously still pretending that "tax the rich" economics isn't abject bullshit?

Are we seriously still pretending that Tu quoque isn't a logical fallacy?

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:17 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Are you having grief? This is the first stage, denial


>Implying that Detroit doesn't suck
>Implying that Walmart and parts of Comcast doesn't suck to work for


K.

Reality Breaker: Half of America sucks.

Also working for the DMV is worse.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:18 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Are we seriously still pretending that trickle-down economics isn't abject bullshit?

Are we seriously still pretending that "tax the rich" economics isn't abject bullshit?

>Implying rich people don't just pay peopel to hide their wealth and dodge taxes, making higher taxes on them useless

While I do think high income earners should pay proportionally more I'll never understand the fascination with overly taxing them. Unless you're willing to go full authoritarian socialist and seize their assets, the rich in the US have gotten pretty good at dodging taxes.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:19 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Are we seriously still pretending that "tax the rich" economics isn't abject bullshit?

>Implying rich people don't just pay peopel to hide their wealth and dodge taxes, making higher taxes on them useless

While I do think high income earners should pay proportionally more I'll never understand the fascination with overly taxing them. Unless you're willing to go full authoritarian socialist and seize their assets, the rich in the US have gotten pretty good at dodging taxes.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:21 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
>Implying that Detroit doesn't suck
>Implying that Walmart and parts of Comcast doesn't suck to work for


K.

Reality Breaker: Half of America sucks.

Also working for the DMV is worse.


Ok? That doesn't change the fact that Detroit sucks to live in and that Walmart and parts of Comcast suck to work for.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:24 am

The rich can't move out of America if every inch of soil in the world is ruled by America.
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