by Trumptonium » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:38 am
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:41 am
by Trumptonium » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 am
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:55 am
Trumptonium wrote:It seems that, love him or hate him, Trump for now is one of the most successful Presidents.
He hasn't invaded anybody yet or sent the military to foreign endavours, which a year after coming to power puts him rather at the most peaceful end of the Presidential list. It took Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, Reagan, Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy less than a year to invade somebody. He's just slightly out for Obama by two months, Carter by three and Eisenhower/Truman by 5 years each.
He's even managed to somehow get North Korea to talk to the South without fear and the South got them to participate in the Olympics.
Economically speaking, he's by far the most successful President the US had since the war. There hasn't been a boom like this for a long time. Of course it won't be sustained, but for now...
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:09 am
Trumptonium wrote:In what is possibly the first economic effect of Trump's tax cut legislation for corporations, Fiat-Chrysler Group has officially announced that they will be moving the production of the RAM trucks (formerly Dodge Ram series) from Mexico to Detroit.
The news follows an earlier announcement yesterday that Toyota and Mazda will be investing $1.6 billion to begin a joint venture in constructing an auto assembly plant in Alabama, but have not related their decision to the tax cut. Plans were announced after the election but before any talks of a tax cut.
The move will be accompanied by a $1.4 billion investment and 2500 extra jobs in Detroit. The Warren Assembly Plant will begin production of heavy-duty trucks from 2020. The Mexican plant will be 'repurposed', although it is unknown for what future commercial production. Staff have been notified of job losses in Mexico, but it is understood that there will likely be a new light duty truck production for a new model, yet unnamed and unseen.
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:17 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:To use the president's own words, Detroit is still going to be "a shithole".
BOA, AT&T, Comcast, Walmart, are still horrible places to work.
by Ohioan Territory » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:21 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:So, it wasn't beacuse of the tax cut at all. If the plans where that far along, they would have done it even of Jeb bush suddenly took all the states by storm.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:21 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:To use the president's own words, Detroit is still going to be "a shithole".
BOA, AT&T, Comcast, Walmart, are still horrible places to work.
Um only Walmart is. AT&T and Comcast are both great places to work, maybe not to buy from but definitely work for.
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:23 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:To use the president's own words, Detroit is still going to be "a shithole".
BOA, AT&T, Comcast, Walmart, are still horrible places to work.Trumptonium wrote:In what is possibly the first economic effect of Trump's tax cut legislation for corporations, Fiat-Chrysler Group has officially announced that they will be moving the production of the RAM trucks (formerly Dodge Ram series) from Mexico to Detroit.
The news follows an earlier announcement yesterday that Toyota and Mazda will be investing $1.6 billion to begin a joint venture in constructing an auto assembly plant in Alabama, but have not related their decision to the tax cut. Plans were announced after the election but before any talks of a tax cut.
The move will be accompanied by a $1.4 billion investment and 2500 extra jobs in Detroit. The Warren Assembly Plant will begin production of heavy-duty trucks from 2020. The Mexican plant will be 'repurposed', although it is unknown for what future commercial production. Staff have been notified of job losses in Mexico, but it is understood that there will likely be a new light duty truck production for a new model, yet unnamed and unseen.
So, it wasn't beacuse of the tax cut at all. If the plans where that far along, they would have done it even of Jeb bush suddenly took all the states by storm.
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:25 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Um only Walmart is. AT&T and Comcast are both great places to work, maybe not to buy from but definitely work for.
"The expectations and the qualifications of a commission pay that they put on us are next to impossible. The way they have the commission set up almost encourages bad behavior on the reps' end. Some reps will do things like add services to customers' accounts without their permission, or flat out just not disconnect the account so that they can make commission pay.
If we don't save the company at certain, very high amount of money, we get NO commission pay, even if our percentages are phenomenal. This makes it even harder for honest reps like myself when these customers call back extremely irate (which I can understand—I'd be upset too!). They teach us in training not to do this, but thee isn't much accountability. We don't have a very large quality auditing team compared to the number of employees in the call center, so if they don't happen to randomly pull that call, the rep gets away with it."
by Grand Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:28 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:30 am
Ohioan Territory wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:So, it wasn't beacuse of the tax cut at all. If the plans where that far along, they would have done it even of Jeb bush suddenly took all the states by storm.
Chrysler explicitly stated that tax legislation would influence their decision to relocate manufacturing to the United States.
Trumptonium wrote:FCA said it also would make a special bonus payment of $2,000 to about 60,000 FCA hourly and salaried employees in the United States totaling about $120 million. The CEO said this is because "the new [tax cut] bill allows us to share our savings with you [employees]"
Thermodolia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:To use the president's own words, Detroit is still going to be "a shithole".
BOA, AT&T, Comcast, Walmart, are still horrible places to work.
So, it wasn't beacuse of the tax cut at all. If the plans where that far along, they would have done it even of Jeb bush suddenly took all the states by storm.
Herp the bolded is talking about Toyota and Mazda not Fiat-Chrysler. The comma after “Alabama” is the key.
Thermodolia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"The expectations and the qualifications of a commission pay that they put on us are next to impossible. The way they have the commission set up almost encourages bad behavior on the reps' end. Some reps will do things like add services to customers' accounts without their permission, or flat out just not disconnect the account so that they can make commission pay.
If we don't save the company at certain, very high amount of money, we get NO commission pay, even if our percentages are phenomenal. This makes it even harder for honest reps like myself when these customers call back extremely irate (which I can understand—I'd be upset too!). They teach us in training not to do this, but thee isn't much accountability. We don't have a very large quality auditing team compared to the number of employees in the call center, so if they don't happen to randomly pull that call, the rep gets away with it."
Sales reps aren’t the entire workforce of Comcast dude. Oh and newsflash sales reps everywhere have sucky jobs
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:36 am
by Grand Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:38 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Read the rest of the article, there phone workers also have shit jobs.
Sales reps and call center guys both have shity work places everywhere. This isn’t just a Comcast thing. And Comcast employs more people than just the call center guys and it still doesn’t prove that AT&T and Bank of America are bad places to work
by Ohioan Territory » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:39 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ohioan Territory wrote:Chrysler explicitly stated that tax legislation would influence their decision to relocate manufacturing to the United States.Trumptonium wrote:FCA said it also would make a special bonus payment of $2,000 to about 60,000 FCA hourly and salaried employees in the United States totaling about $120 million. The CEO said this is because "the new [tax cut] bill allows us to share our savings with you [employees]"
Only the "special bonus payment" was attached to the tax cut.
by Grand Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:41 am
Ohioan Territory wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Only the "special bonus payment" was attached to the tax cut.
About a year ago, a Chrysler representative stated that tax and trade policy would influence Chrysler's decision to move manufacturing to the US. Trump tax cuts and the possibility of leaving NAFTA and Chrysler decides to move a portion of manufacturing back to the US. And you're not attributing this to Trump?
There certainly wouldn't have been tax cuts or the possibility of leaving NAFTA if Clinton became president, and Chrysler probably wouldn't have moved manufacturing back to the US.
I don't understand your gripe here. Manufacturing moving back to the United States is a good thing. New jobs and more money for people is a good thing. Trump promised American voters he'd get jobs back to the United States, he's done what he can to do this, and it has worked.
by Esternial » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:41 am
by Trumptonium » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:44 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Only the "special bonus payment" was attached to the tax cut.
. "It is only proper that our employees share in the savings generated by tax reform and that we openly acknowledge the resulting improvement in the U.S. business environment by investing in our industrial footprint accordingly."
by Trumptonium » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:49 am
Grand Britannia wrote:Ohioan Territory wrote:About a year ago, a Chrysler representative stated that tax and trade policy would influence Chrysler's decision to move manufacturing to the US. Trump tax cuts and the possibility of leaving NAFTA and Chrysler decides to move a portion of manufacturing back to the US. And you're not attributing this to Trump?
There certainly wouldn't have been tax cuts or the possibility of leaving NAFTA if Clinton became president, and Chrysler probably wouldn't have moved manufacturing back to the US.
I don't understand your gripe here. Manufacturing moving back to the United States is a good thing. New jobs and more money for people is a good thing. Trump promised American voters he'd get jobs back to the United States, he's done what he can to do this, and it has worked.
Trump did it and the jobs arent being moved to the benefit of corporations and third world countries.
Therefore bad.
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:59 am
Grand Britannia wrote:Ohioan Territory wrote:About a year ago, a Chrysler representative stated that tax and trade policy would influence Chrysler's decision to move manufacturing to the US. Trump tax cuts and the possibility of leaving NAFTA and Chrysler decides to move a portion of manufacturing back to the US. And you're not attributing this to Trump?
There certainly wouldn't have been tax cuts or the possibility of leaving NAFTA if Clinton became president, and Chrysler probably wouldn't have moved manufacturing back to the US.
I don't understand your gripe here. Manufacturing moving back to the United States is a good thing. New jobs and more money for people is a good thing. Trump promised American voters he'd get jobs back to the United States, he's done what he can to do this, and it has worked.
Trump did it and the jobs arent being moved to the benefit of corporations and third world countries.
Therefore bad.
by Petrolheadia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:10 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:29 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Read the rest of the article, there phone workers also have shit jobs.
Sales reps and call center guys both have shity work places everywhere. This isn’t just a Comcast thing. And Comcast employs more people than just the call center guys and it still doesn’t prove that AT&T and Bank of America are bad places to work
Ohioan Territory wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Only the "special bonus payment" was attached to the tax cut.
About a year ago, a Chrysler representative stated that tax and trade policy would influence Chrysler's decision to move manufacturing to the US. Trump tax cuts and the possibility of leaving NAFTA and Chrysler decides to move a portion of manufacturing back to the US. And you're not attributing this to Trump?
There certainly wouldn't have been tax cuts or the possibility of leaving NAFTA if Clinton became president, and Chrysler probably wouldn't have moved manufacturing back to the US.
I don't understand your gripe here. Manufacturing moving back to the United States is a good thing. New jobs and more money for people is a good thing. Trump promised American voters he'd get jobs back to the United States, he's done what he can to do this, and it has worked.
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:To use the president's own words, Detroit is still going to be "a shithole".
BOA, AT&T, Comcast, Walmart, are still horrible places to work.
Grand Britannia wrote:Ohioan Territory wrote:About a year ago, a Chrysler representative stated that tax and trade policy would influence Chrysler's decision to move manufacturing to the US. Trump tax cuts and the possibility of leaving NAFTA and Chrysler decides to move a portion of manufacturing back to the US. And you're not attributing this to Trump?
There certainly wouldn't have been tax cuts or the possibility of leaving NAFTA if Clinton became president, and Chrysler probably wouldn't have moved manufacturing back to the US.
I don't understand your gripe here. Manufacturing moving back to the United States is a good thing. New jobs and more money for people is a good thing. Trump promised American voters he'd get jobs back to the United States, he's done what he can to do this, and it has worked.
Trump did it and the jobs arent being moved to the benefit of corporations and third world countries.
Therefore bad.
Thermodolia wrote:No it’s because Trump is succeeding and not failing like they want him too
by Grand Britannia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:31 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:36 am
Trumptonium wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Only the "special bonus payment" was attached to the tax cut.
This isn't correct.. "It is only proper that our employees share in the savings generated by tax reform and that we openly acknowledge the resulting improvement in the U.S. business environment by investing in our industrial footprint accordingly."
The quote is merely what he said to his employees in a company-wide email, the above is what he told the media. He quite clearly attaches the decision to the tax reform, as do all the other companies I mentioned if you bother to click the links.
The only one that didn't was Toyota and Mazda, however, their decision was a result of plans that they openly acknowledged would not have occurred 'without the ongoing change in the political environment'
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 026517001/
Yet again, I repeat what I said in OP "Fiat Chrysler Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne a year ago raised the possibility that the automaker would move production of its heavy-duty pickups to the United States, saying U.S. tax and trade policy would influence the decision."
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:37 am
Grand Britannia wrote:I don't expect children to admit they broke the porcelain vase in the living room so this is obviously expected.
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