3D Printed Guns

[Petrasylvania]

Advanced Warfare is still fantasy at this point and if printers get that good a smart government won't let just any moron acquire them.

[Cetacea]

how do you stop criminals and the insane from buying 3D printers? Will this lead to a black market in Epoxy resins?

okay so with currently available plastics printers its not an issue and even ceramics extruders arent a big issue but I would be concerned if the tech advances to the point of having readily available true metal printers, those I'd regulate,

personally Im more interested in 3D printered food and housing

[Purpelia]

I think it's a very, very bad idea. Even if we ignore the obvious fact that criminals will be far more likely to have the resources to get the materials and equipment to get these things (thanks to their money) it poses a potential to cause a large amount of unsafe firearms to float about. For every gang member murdered by a printed gun the world might well see a regular civilian blowing his hand off because he 3d printed a shoddy pirated internet blueprint rather than buying a legitimate firearm.

And this is going to happen. You won't ever get the likes of Cold or H&K putting their blueprints out for free legitimately. So the only ones you'll be able to get will be expensive or shady.

[Sleet Clans]

I am fully for them and am against any regulations on 3d printing. It's not like all of these laws are going to stop hardline criminals, are they?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Advanced Warfare is still fantasy at this point and if printers get that good a smart government won't let just any moron acquire them.

3D printed AR lowers that last several hundred, if not a few thousand, rounds are already a thing, as are 3D printed bump-stocks, as are pistols in .357 that work fine with nothing more than a barrel liner added. Give it a few more years for metal desktop printers to drop further in price and it won't be able to be stopped.

[Purpelia]

I am fully for them and am against any regulations on 3d printing. It's not like all of these laws are going to stop hardline criminals, are they?

Well actually they are and they do. Basically what anti firearms laws do is make it harder to get firearms. And this in turn restricts the percentage of criminals that can get them by both making them jump through more hoops to find a dealer and driving the price up when they do.

[Petrasylvania]

I am fully for them and am against any regulations on 3d printing. It's not like all of these laws are going to stop hardline criminals, are they?

Why not have children print guns for show and tell? Can't stop them after all.

[Purpelia]

I am fully for them and am against any regulations on 3d printing. It's not like all of these laws are going to stop hardline criminals, are they?

Why not have children print guns for show and tell? Can't stop them after all.

You can and should. As I explained already you are going to have a hard time finding an affordable and safe blueprint that's been made up for 3d printing. And without that a firearm is essentially a hand grenade with a 0 second fuse.

[Sleet Clans]

I am fully for them and am against any regulations on 3d printing. It's not like all of these laws are going to stop hardline criminals, are they?

Why not have children print guns for show and tell? Can't stop them after all.

Just take out the firing pins, don't give them any bullets and walla!

[Washington Resistance Army]

Why not have children print guns for show and tell? Can't stop them after all.

You can and should. As I explained already you are going to have a hard time finding an affordable and safe blueprint that's been made up for 3d printing. And without that a firearm is essentially a hand grenade with a 0 second fuse.

Those blueprints already exist. There's a fairly large group of people who are knowledgeable on the topic making it happen already.

[The East Marches II]

Advanced Warfare is still fantasy at this point and if printers get that good a smart government won't let just any moron acquire them.

They are already that good and the morons already have them :^)

[Purpelia]

You can and should. As I explained already you are going to have a hard time finding an affordable and safe blueprint that's been made up for 3d printing. And without that a firearm is essentially a hand grenade with a 0 second fuse.

Those blueprints already exist. There's a fairly large group of people who are knowledgeable on the topic making it happen already.

Really? That sounds dubious to me for a number of reasons including but not limited to the fact that it's literally pirating firearms unless it's a complete custom design. And even than it probably falls under patent infringement.

[Petrasylvania]

Why not have children print guns for show and tell? Can't stop them after all.

You can and should. As I explained already you are going to have a hard time finding an affordable and safe blueprint that's been made up for 3d printing. And without that a firearm is essentially a hand grenade with a 0 second fuse.

Right now maybe. But technology and materials will improve to where Advanced Warfare isn't farfetched.

[Grinning Dragon]

You can and should. As I explained already you are going to have a hard time finding an affordable and safe blueprint that's been made up for 3d printing. And without that a firearm is essentially a hand grenade with a 0 second fuse.

Those blueprints already exist. There's a fairly large group of people who are knowledgeable on the topic making it happen already.

Pretty much this.
The signal cannot be stopped!

[Purpelia]

You can and should. As I explained already you are going to have a hard time finding an affordable and safe blueprint that's been made up for 3d printing. And without that a firearm is essentially a hand grenade with a 0 second fuse.

Right now maybe. But technology and materials will improve to where Advanced Warfare isn't farfetched.

It's not about the materials or technology. It's about the fact that a badly designed firearm mechanically explodes when you fire it. And that the people who can design firearms well tend to work for big companies that want to keep these designs in house to sell them.

We might eventually see them starting up some sort of licensing system where you can download a blueprint from H&K and print your own gun at home or something. But I would NOT trust a random internet enthusiast who has a free blueprint to offer me.

[The Grene Knyght]

I'm personally 100% for them for all the same reasons I'm pro-gun:
-Ensuring there is a major check against a potentially tyrannical government

Does this mean you're pro- killing cops?

(Hypothetically of course, since advocating death is against the rules)

[Washington Resistance Army]

Those blueprints already exist. There's a fairly large group of people who are knowledgeable on the topic making it happen already.

Really? That sounds dubious to me for a number of reasons including but not limited to the fact that it's literally pirating firearms unless it's a complete custom design.

Most of the big name guns aren't owned by any one company which is why everyone and their mothers make AR's and AK's. Even if it were pirating it's not like you can really efficiently stop it, the Wiki Weapon is pretty much a thing at this point.

[Sleet Clans]

I am fully for them and am against any regulations on 3d printing. It's not like all of these laws are going to stop hardline criminals, are they?

Well actually they are and they do. Basically what anti firearms laws do is make it harder to get firearms. And this in turn restricts the percentage of criminals that can get them by both making them jump through more hoops to find a dealer and driving the price up when they do.

Criminals still will get firearms. Black markets sell them by the millions. And those laws will prevent good, law abiding citizens from getting tools toprotect themselves, which is a human right.

Plus, just look at Chicago. Has some of the strictest gun laws in the entire US and yet it is one of the top cities for gun deaths in the country. Then there is Texas, which has very lax laws on guns and yet there isn't as much murdering there via guns.

[Saiwania]

I mean like really early on.

Even then, North Vietnam probably had plenty of equipment inherited from World War II, with the rest smuggled from China or stolen from the French. They were rag tag, but were in a much better position for insurgency than they're usually given credit for.

[Estlobies]

Making eugenics easier

I've counted 4 meaning in my head this sentence could possibly have. Please elaborate.

More people making more weapons means more weapons for a government to steal and less they have to buy, which means an easier time acquiring the tools for a eugenics program.

[Hurdergaryp]

I mean, as a cost reduction method yes. As someone printing guns in his basement, no
edit* That said, I don't think we should ban 3d printers, and understand you can't really limit someone from making a gun with one

Given how 3D printers are not capable of printing weapons grade steel, it is not as if 3D printed guns are going to become an alternative for regularly manufacted firearms soon.

[Fartsniffage]

I mean, as a cost reduction method yes. As someone printing guns in his basement, no
edit* That said, I don't think we should ban 3d printers, and understand you can't really limit someone from making a gun with one

Given how 3D printers are not capable of printing weapons grade steel, it is not as if 3D printed guns are going to become an alternative for regularly manufacted firearms soon.

They are capable of printing steel and even stronger alloys now.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Given how 3D printers are not capable of printing weapons grade steel, it is not as if 3D printed guns are going to become an alternative for regularly manufacted firearms soon.

They are capable of printing steel and even stronger alloys now.

We're living in the god damn future!

[The East Marches II]

I mean, as a cost reduction method yes. As someone printing guns in his basement, no
edit* That said, I don't think we should ban 3d printers, and understand you can't really limit someone from making a gun with one

Given how 3D printers are not capable of printing weapons grade steel, it is not as if 3D printed guns are going to become an alternative for regularly manufacted firearms soon.

Rather desktop cnc. I've seen the price drop from 50 grand to $750 today. It's only gonna keep crashing. You'd be better off trying to control ammo supply

[Hurdergaryp]

Given how 3D printers are not capable of printing weapons grade steel, it is not as if 3D printed guns are going to become an alternative for regularly manufacted firearms soon.

They are capable of printing steel and even stronger alloys now.

How expensive are those 3D printers? Those machines are undoubtedly more advanced than your regular printer, which means the price tag attached is a bit more intimidating.