Meaning of Existence

[Aillyria]

It's always nice when one is reminded that we are just the playthings of an amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity, gnawing hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

Whoa, that was a reach.

Such hostility to God (swt) is bound to be commonplace in a word ruled by atheists.

[36 Camera Perspective]

To argue that life is meaningless because it's too short is to assume that meaning corresponds to temporal length. To argue that life is meaningless because we are a minuscule part of an unimaginably vast universe is to assume that meaning corresponds to spatial dimensions. To argue that life is meaningless because it all ends the same way is to assume that meaning must correspond to extrinsic circumstances.

All of these are very questionable assumptions.

[Caligolus]

Whoa, that was a reach.

Such hostility to God (swt) is bound to be commonplace in a word ruled by atheists.

If there is a monotheistic creator god, and I highly doubt there is... I would find the meaning of life to commit deicide against it.

[36 Camera Perspective]

God really has no need of us, and is not sustained by our belief, any more than a mountain or the sea is.

It's always nice when one is reminded that we are just the playthings of an amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity, gnawing hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

No one knows what it means, but it's provocative.

[Aillyria]

Such hostility to God (swt) is bound to be commonplace in a word ruled by atheists.

If there is a monotheistic creator god, and I highly doubt there is... I would find the meaning of life to commit deicide against it.

I wouldn't doubt it. It's silly, the idea the even if God's (swt) existence were proven to your liking, you'd still choose to defy him. I'll never understand it.

[36 Camera Perspective]

If there is a monotheistic creator god, and I highly doubt there is... I would find the meaning of life to commit deicide against it.

I wouldn't doubt it. It's silly, the idea the even if God's (swt) existence were proven to your liking, you'd still choose to defy him. I'll never understand it.

It has a nice emotional vibe to it, but it's foolhardy and juvenile.

[Caligolus]

If there is a monotheistic creator god, and I highly doubt there is... I would find the meaning of life to commit deicide against it.

I wouldn't doubt it. It's silly, the idea the even if God's (swt) existence were proven to your liking, you'd still choose to defy him. I'll never understand it.

If a monotheistic creator god did exist, it would be inherently malevolent. Hence, I would make every effort to kill such a god.

[Aillyria]

I wouldn't doubt it. It's silly, the idea the even if God's (swt) existence were proven to your liking, you'd still choose to defy him. I'll never understand it.

If a monotheistic creator god did exist, it would be inherently malevolent. Hence, I would make every effort to kill such a god.

I disagree, humanity is the one who is inherently evil. God (swt) is that which is good.

[36 Camera Perspective]

I wouldn't doubt it. It's silly, the idea the even if God's (swt) existence were proven to your liking, you'd still choose to defy him. I'll never understand it.

If a monotheistic creator god did exist, it would be inherently malevolent. Hence, I would make every effort to kill such a god.

Inherently malevolent? Why?

[Caligolus]

If a monotheistic creator god did exist, it would be inherently malevolent. Hence, I would make every effort to kill such a god.

I disagree, humanity is the one who is inherently evil. God (swt) is that which is good.

I do not deny that humanity is not good. But I do not believe that ANYTHING can be omniscient, omnipotent, nor omnibenevolent. And this coming from someone who is not atheist.

And disregarding the above, such a being would both be responsible for every bad thing that ever happened, every imperfection in mortal life (such as every disease that ever existed, period, for starters), AND would inevitably not hold up to my views of morality and ethics, which I would STILL hold more important that any "holy laws".

I may believe in many gods, but I do not worship any creator deities.

See also: Epicurus, the Problem of Evil.

[36 Camera Perspective]

I disagree, humanity is the one who is inherently evil. God (swt) is that which is good.

I do not deny that humanity is not good. But I do not believe that ANYTHING can be omniscient, omnipotent, nor omnibenevolent. And this coming from someone who is not atheist.

And disregarding the above, such a being would both be responsible for every bad thing that ever happened, every imperfection in mortal life (such as every disease that ever existed, period, for starters), AND would inevitably not hold up to my views of morality and ethics, which I would STILL hold more important that any "holy laws".

I may believe in many gods, but I do not worship any creator deities.

See also: Epicurus, the Problem of Evil.

The most basic and most widely responded to formulation of the problem of evil, yes.

[Caligolus]

I do not deny that humanity is not good. But I do not believe that ANYTHING can be omniscient, omnipotent, nor omnibenevolent. And this coming from someone who is not atheist.

And disregarding the above, such a being would both be responsible for every bad thing that ever happened, every imperfection in mortal life (such as every disease that ever existed, period, for starters), AND would inevitably not hold up to my views of morality and ethics, which I would STILL hold more important that any "holy laws".

I may believe in many gods, but I do not worship any creator deities.

See also: Epicurus, the Problem of Evil.
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The most basic and most widely responded to formulation of the problem of evil, yes.

It's also my personal favorite formulation of it; it addresses all possible common solutions, forcing those who view it to seriously think. Like any good koan should: force those who view it to seriously think.

[36 Camera Perspective]

It's also my personal favorite formulation of it; it addresses all possible common solutions.

It actually doesn't. It's possible for god to have morally sufficient reasons for allowing evil to exist (i.e. "a greater good").

[Aillyria]

I disagree, humanity is the one who is inherently evil. God (swt) is that which is good.

I do not deny that humanity is not good. But I do not believe that ANYTHING can be omniscient, omnipotent, nor omnibenevolent. And this coming from someone who is not atheist.

And disregarding the above, such a being would both be responsible for every bad thing that ever happened, every imperfection in mortal life (such as every disease that ever existed, period, for starters), AND would inevitably not hold up to my views of morality and ethics, which I would STILL hold more important that any "holy laws".

I may believe in many gods, but I do not worship any creator deities.

See also: Epicurus, the Problem of Evil.

You base your idea on the idea that this physical existence is supposed to be enjoyable, it is a test, a trial. I don't believe this life is designed to be loved or enjoyed, at least not at the expense of humanity's subservience and loyalty to God.

The problem with humanity is we cannot fathom that there exists a master, a superior to us. We're taught that we must rebel for the sake of rebellion, oppose authority for the sake of opposition.

[Avuncula]

So what if life is meaningless? Give it meaning! Don't be such a pessimist.

For me, the meaning of life is to make music My raison d'etre.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

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The answer is: 42

Darn it, they beat me too it.

[Caligolus]

I do not deny that humanity is not good. But I do not believe that ANYTHING can be omniscient, omnipotent, nor omnibenevolent. And this coming from someone who is not atheist.

And disregarding the above, such a being would both be responsible for every bad thing that ever happened, every imperfection in mortal life (such as every disease that ever existed, period, for starters), AND would inevitably not hold up to my views of morality and ethics, which I would STILL hold more important that any "holy laws".

I may believe in many gods, but I do not worship any creator deities.

See also: Epicurus, the Problem of Evil.
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You base your idea on the idea that this physical existence is supposed to be enjoyable, it is a test, a trial. I don't believe this life is designed to be loved or enjoyed, at least not at the expense of humanity's subservience and loyalty to God.

The problem with humanity is we cannot fathom that there exists a master, a superior to us. We're taught that we must rebel for the sake of rebellion, oppose authority for the sake of opposition.

Abrahamic holy texts still read as if "god" were a megolmaniacal, narcissistic dictator. I hold all possibly deities to the same standards I hold humans to.

I wouldn't just kill a monotheistic creator god. I would butcher them. I would make an example of them.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

[Aillyria]

You base your idea on the idea that this physical existence is supposed to be enjoyable, it is a test, a trial. I don't believe this life is designed to be loved or enjoyed, at least not at the expense of humanity's subservience and loyalty to God.

The problem with humanity is we cannot fathom that there exists a master, a superior to us. We're taught that we must rebel for the sake of rebellion, oppose authority for the sake of opposition.

Abrahamic holy texts still read as if "god" were a megolmaniacal, narcissistic dictator. I hold all possibly deities to the same standards I hold humans to.

I wouldn't just kill a monotheistic creator god. I would butcher them. I would make an example of them.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

And that is where you err, God isn't a human. He is superior to us.

[Caligolus]

Abrahamic holy texts still read as if "god" were a megolmaniacal, narcissistic dictator. I hold all possibly deities to the same standards I hold humans to.

I wouldn't just kill a monotheistic creator god. I would butcher them. I would make an example of them.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

And that is where you err, God isn't a human. He is superior to us.

If he cannot be held to the same standards as humans, he is most certainly not superior.

[VoVoDoCo]

And that is where you err, God isn't a human. He is superior to us.

If he cannot be held to the same standards as humans, he is most certainly not superior.

At best, an arrogant prick.

[New haven america]

If a monotheistic creator god did exist, it would be inherently malevolent. Hence, I would make every effort to kill such a god.

I disagree, humanity is the one who is inherently evil. God (swt) is that which is good.

Quick question: Why does an omnipotent entity who could simply blink us out of existance if he felt like it need beings who are worth less than ants comparatively need said beings to worship him?

Is he not satisified with the large number of Angels that are at his total beck and call? If so, that seems rather egotistical...

If humanity's only purpose in existence was to do nothing more than worship said entity, then why are we not all spending every single minute of every single hour of every single day doing such a thing until we slowly die from starvation or dehydration?

[Caligolus]

I disagree, humanity is the one who is inherently evil. God (swt) is that which is good.

Quick question: Why does an omnipotent entity who could simply blink us out of existance if he felt like it need beings who are worth less than ants comparatively need said beings to worship him?

Is he not satisified with the large number of Angels that are at his total beck and call? If so, that seems rather egotistical...

That was one of my MANY points.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Abrahamic holy texts still read as if "god" were a megolmaniacal, narcissistic dictator. I hold all possibly deities to the same standards I hold humans to.

I wouldn't just kill a monotheistic creator god. I would butcher them. I would make an example of them.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

And that is where you err, God isn't a human. He is superior to us.

And like magic, murder is fine. As long as God does it and not humans.

[Alvecia]

Existence has no inherent meaning. Only what we make of it.

[Aillyria]

And that is where you err, God isn't a human. He is superior to us.

And like magic, murder is fine. As long as God does it and not humans.

God isn't subject to human laws, he is the law himself.