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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:Well then I guess by that same logic there was no manipulation of the Democratic primaries then.

Everyone knows Crooked Hillary rigged the primaries, silly.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:12 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Well then I guess by that same logic there was no manipulation of the Democratic primaries then.

Everyone knows Crooked Hillary rigged the primaries, silly.


Sarcasm aside I am starting to get bored of the double standards; where things that are considered prima facie evidence of corruption and manipulation of the Democratic primary are somehow not evidence at all when applied to the General.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:12 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 42741.html

Another reason to vote Trump out. Here we have an administration which is so completely "bought" by corporate America, including oil companies. Those oil CEOs love it when Trump goes onto Twitter and pretends that Climate Change isn't real. "Oh its cold in the northeast, we must need some of that global warming! ;) Has the check from Exxon Mobil been cashed yet? I love getting that Exxon money."

The entire coast of the US is at risk of being opened up to oil exploration against the objections of coastal state governors. All the associated oil spill risks that Deepwater Horizon demonstrated are going to come to fruition unless Trump's administration is taken down as soon as possible.

These midterms have to go well for Democrats. The stakes are too high to squander this year on stupid strategy, which is what I'm seeing unfortunately. There are so many vectors of attack that exist against Trump, but an opposition message isn't sufficiently being carried.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:39 pm

Saiwania wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-offshore-drilling-expansion-plans-obama-climate-change-legacy-a8142741.html

Another reason to vote Trump out. Here we have an administration which is so completely "bought" by corporate America, including oil companies. Those oil CEOs love it when Trump goes onto Twitter and pretends that Climate Change isn't real. "Oh its cold in the northeast, we must need some of that global warming! ;) Has the check from Exxon Mobil been cashed yet? I love getting that Exxon money."

The entire coast of the US is at risk of being opened up to oil exploration against the objections of coastal state governors. All the associated oil spill risks that Deepwater Horizon demonstrated are going to come to fruition unless Trump's administration is taken down as soon as possible.

These midterms have to go well for Democrats. The stakes are too high to squander this year on stupid strategy, which is what I'm seeing unfortunately. There are so many vectors of attack that exist against Trump, but an opposition message isn't sufficiently being carried.


Wow :blink:

I never thought you'd be part of the people who want Trump out. My question to you, Sai, and sorry if it is too personal, how did you get to this point? Honest question.
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Postby Vulturret » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-offshore-drilling-expansion-plans-obama-climate-change-legacy-a8142741.html

Another reason to vote Trump out. Here we have an administration which is so completely "bought" by corporate America, including oil companies. Those oil CEOs love it when Trump goes onto Twitter and pretends that Climate Change isn't real. "Oh its cold in the northeast, we must need some of that global warming! ;) Has the check from Exxon Mobil been cashed yet? I love getting that Exxon money."

The entire coast of the US is at risk of being opened up to oil exploration against the objections of coastal state governors. All the associated oil spill risks that Deepwater Horizon demonstrated are going to come to fruition unless Trump's administration is taken down as soon as possible.

These midterms have to go well for Democrats. The stakes are too high to squander this year on stupid strategy, which is what I'm seeing unfortunately. There are so many vectors of attack that exist against Trump, but an opposition message isn't sufficiently being carried.

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:25 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Saiwania wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-offshore-drilling-expansion-plans-obama-climate-change-legacy-a8142741.html

Another reason to vote Trump out. Here we have an administration which is so completely "bought" by corporate America, including oil companies. Those oil CEOs love it when Trump goes onto Twitter and pretends that Climate Change isn't real. "Oh its cold in the northeast, we must need some of that global warming! ;) Has the check from Exxon Mobil been cashed yet? I love getting that Exxon money."

The entire coast of the US is at risk of being opened up to oil exploration against the objections of coastal state governors. All the associated oil spill risks that Deepwater Horizon demonstrated are going to come to fruition unless Trump's administration is taken down as soon as possible.

These midterms have to go well for Democrats. The stakes are too high to squander this year on stupid strategy, which is what I'm seeing unfortunately. There are so many vectors of attack that exist against Trump, but an opposition message isn't sufficiently being carried.


Wow :blink:

I never thought you'd be part of the people who want Trump out. My question to you, Sai, and sorry if it is too personal, how did you get to this point? Honest question.

Sai has flip-flopped on wanting Trump in or wanting Trump out about fifty thousand times at this point. I think he got to this point by being torn between the impulses of wanting to gloat when liberals get mad and wanting to object to policies that might personally harm him. I'm sure he'll flip-flop again soon.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:08 pm

Senkaku wrote:Sai has flip-flopped on wanting Trump in or wanting Trump out about fifty thousand times at this point. I think he got to this point by being torn between the impulses of wanting to gloat when liberals get mad and wanting to object to policies that might personally harm him. I'm sure he'll flip-flop again soon.


You're yet another person on here who has a conclusion about me which is dead wrong. I haven't really supported Trump for a long while now and my post history should bear this out. Sure, I like how Trump is deporting 200,000+ El Salvadorans, but this isn't worth Trump wrecking the US' environment and potentially setting the stage for another Stock Market collapse.

In opposing Trump, I am choosing country over my social conservative wish list getting fulfilled. There is simply too much going on under the Trump administration that I don't like seeing. I don't like his domestic and economic agenda and I'm not liking the outcomes. He is the swamp, the most corrupt executive ever; giving power to Goldman Sachs and other corporate lobbyists who have a vested interest in gutting the EPA, FCC, FTC and so on. The very agencies which are meant to intervene in the public interest against corporate shenanigans and malfeasance. The fact still is that Trump is allowing regulatory capture to happen on a massive scale.

If it really came down to Oprah vs Trump in 2020, I don't think I can vote for either given that both likely won't be serious candidates. I've seen enough conduct and actions by Trump to definitely know at this point, that I don't want him in elected office and as for Oprah, she'd need to convince me that she isn't just another celebrity who doesn't know jack about governing who thinks that they can do a better job by virtue of being some TV star- just like Trump. I'm not interested in another faux populist. I say NO to a repeat of 2016's primary season.

I want a serious candidate who has a solid policy platform and message. As one example, Bernie Sanders (like him or not) fits that criteria.

In the event that the two presidential candidates aren't serious people who have a genuine interest in governing, it may well have to come down to which VP I'd like better.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:22 pm

Y'all could have voted for Gary Johnson, but you just had to know where Aleppo was.
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Postby Steffan » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:36 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:Y'all could have voted for Gary Johnson, but you just had to know where Aleppo was.

:lol2:
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:09 am

Northern Davincia wrote:Y'all could have voted for Gary Johnson, but you just had to know where Aleppo was.

If Gary Johnson hasn't played enough EU4 to know where Halep is then he's not fit to be President of anything.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:51 am

Northern Davincia wrote:Y'all could have voted for Gary Johnson, but you just had to know where Aleppo was.


Who?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:52 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Y'all could have voted for Gary Johnson, but you just had to know where Aleppo was.


Who?


The only not totally horrid candidate last year.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:52 am

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Who?


The only not totally horrid candidate last year.

Wrong. That was Vermin Supreme.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The only not totally horrid candidate last year.

Wrong. That was Vermin Supreme.


The candidate we need, but not the one we deserve.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wrong. That was Vermin Supreme.


The candidate we need, but not the one we deserve.

We are not worthy of those ponies. ;_;
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Postby Steffan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:17 am

Northern Davincia wrote:Y'all could have voted for Gary Johnson, but you just had to know where Aleppo was.

If it makes ya feel better, I would've chosen Johnson over Trump ;)
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:18 am

The Flutterlands wrote:A Judge blocked DACA rollback..

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/u ... oogle.com/


Cries of judicial overreach in five...
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Postby Steffan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:31 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:A Judge blocked DACA rollback..

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/u ... oogle.com/


Cries of judicial overreach in five...

What 'five'? They started waaaay last night :P
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Postby CNN and CTV » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:33 am

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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:40 am


The Obama administration -- whose official policy was to never jail bankers regardless of their wrongdoing and the harm it caused -- had already given waivers to all the affected banks. The Trump administration has extended those waivers for years more.

Must have been a hard choice for Donny. I can picture him in that tired old Two Buttons cartoon choosing between "FUCKOBAMA" and "BUTTER UP DEUTSCHE BANK".
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Postby Kramania » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:16 am

So Trump allows the media in for an entire meeting when normally they'd be kicked out, but he's an authoritarian who wants to shut down free press.

Hmm.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:19 am

Kramania wrote:So Trump allows the media in for an entire meeting when normally they'd be kicked out, but he's an authoritarian who wants to shut down free press.

Hmm.


So how many times has he screamed for CNN to be shuttered since the election?
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