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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:51 am

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Liriena wrote:Friendly reminder that polling for a potential 2020 contest between Trump and Sanders has so far given Sanders a majority of support. The same was almost never true of Hillary Clinton in 2016.


Friendly reminder those numbers would tank when the GOP starts smearing Bernie as a breadline loving communist who hates America :p

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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:55 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Friendly reminder those numbers would tank when the GOP starts smearing Bernie as a breadline loving communist who hates America :p

Add one trip to the USSR during the Cold War and you have a dead campaign

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:34 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Add one trip to the USSR during the Cold War and you have a dead campaign

Russia: America's favourite scapegoat since 1947

"we need a revolution to overthrow trump and the gop"
"woah guys cool it on this russia stuff lol, it's not like hostile foreign powers attacking us is a big deal"

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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:44 am

Senkaku wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Russia: America's favourite scapegoat since 1947

"we need a revolution to overthrow trump and the gop"
"woah guys cool it on this russia stuff lol, it's not like hostile foreign powers attacking us is a big deal"

-flutter

You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:05 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"we need a revolution to overthrow trump and the gop"
"woah guys cool it on this russia stuff lol, it's not like hostile foreign powers attacking us is a big deal"

-flutter

You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.


https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Totally fake news.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:08 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Add one trip to the USSR during the Cold War and you have a dead campaign

Russia: America's favourite scapegoat since 1947


>Scapegoat

Goby pls, I would think the recent events showed that was not true.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:09 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.


https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Totally fake news.

That is not explicit enough. We need factual scientific evidence that Russia "hacked" the election. Our intelligence agencies merely claim "confidence" that they have done so. Since when have American people started treating everything they say as Gospel truth?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:12 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.


https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Totally fake news.

On the other hand, they didn't "hack the election" as some claimed, as fully evident in that document.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:11 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:

That is not explicit enough. We need factual scientific evidence that Russia "hacked" the election. Our intelligence agencies merely claim "confidence" that they have done so. Since when have American people started treating everything they say as Gospel truth?

A state-sponsored campaign which included cyberespionage to shill for Trump is no big deal even though his administration abolished your precious Net Neutrality and so must be overthrown Viva La Revoluçion? Your lack of or unwillingness to grasp the chain of logic involved is comical.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:17 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:That is not explicit enough. We need factual scientific evidence that Russia "hacked" the election. Our intelligence agencies merely claim "confidence" that they have done so. Since when have American people started treating everything they say as Gospel truth?

A state-sponsored campaign which included cyberespionage to shill for Trump is no big deal even though his administration abolished your precious Net Neutrality and so must be overthrown Viva La Revoluçion? Your lack of or unwillingness to grasp the chain of logic involved is comical.


It didn't just shill for Trump. it was an overt character assassination hit on Hillary Clinton, Vlad's chosen nemesis.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:18 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"we need a revolution to overthrow trump and the gop"
"woah guys cool it on this russia stuff lol, it's not like hostile foreign powers attacking us is a big deal"

-flutter

You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.


Interference in any election in any form is oft considered to be a hostile action.

Unless the Russians were just so concerned about our leadership and they just wanted to help us pick the very bestest among us, like the good lads they are.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:23 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:A state-sponsored campaign which included cyberespionage to shill for Trump is no big deal even though his administration abolished your precious Net Neutrality and so must be overthrown Viva La Revoluçion? Your lack of or unwillingness to grasp the chain of logic involved is comical.


It didn't just shill for Trump. it was an overt character assassination hit on Hillary Clinton, Vlad's chosen nemesis.

Don't know why they bothered with that bit, the country hates her anyways.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:56 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"we need a revolution to overthrow trump and the gop"
"woah guys cool it on this russia stuff lol, it's not like hostile foreign powers attacking us is a big deal"

-flutter

You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.

TIL anything short of overt military attacks on American troops or civilian populations is not an attack and we shouldn't be bothered by any of it.

Remember kids, until the bombs start falling, we're best friends with everyone!

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That is not explicit enough. We need factual scientific evidence that Russia "hacked" the election.

flutter to flutter: "why don't I set an unreasonable standard of proof? that'll work"
flutter to nsg: "why won't the cia just release all its classified info about this i mean come on are they hiding something"

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On the other hand, they didn't "hack the election" as some claimed, as fully evident in that document.
The truth is somewhere between "Russian interns posted lies on the Internet." and "THE RUSKIES LEET HAXORED THE ELECTIONS!".

They used sophisticated methods to influence the election. It gets annoying every time someone brings this up to have people say "well they didn't HACK THE ELECTION", as if the whole election and all voter data were just stored and run on some schmuck's server and Boris and Natasha went in and changed vote numbers from "10 Trump, 123456789 Hillary" to "1 Hillary, 1000000001234567890987654321 Trump xDDD" :p
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
It didn't just shill for Trump. it was an overt character assassination hit on Hillary Clinton, Vlad's chosen nemesis.

Don't know why they bothered with that bit, the country hates her anyways.


Leaving nothing to chance, like most control freak authoritarian dictatorships. ;)
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:00 pm


They have literally done nothing wrong ever.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Liriena wrote:The Kochs are going straight to Hell.

They have literally done nothing wrong ever.


Objectively false.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:They have literally done nothing wrong ever.


Objectively false correct.

Fixed!
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:16 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Liriena wrote:The Kochs are going straight to Hell.

They have literally done nothing wrong ever.

Kiss of death.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:19 pm

Bannon has just stepped down as the Chair of Breitbart News. Goodbye Mr. Chimp!

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36816 ... -breitbart
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:23 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:

That is not explicit enough. We need factual scientific evidence that Russia "hacked" the election. Our intelligence agencies merely claim "confidence" that they have done so. Since when have American people started treating everything they say as Gospel truth?


And yet you're happy to believe the Democratic primary was rigged without factual scientific evidence.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:33 pm

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Postby Steffan » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:33 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:Bannon has just stepped down as the Chair of Breitbart News. Goodbye Mr. Chimp!

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36816 ... -breitbart

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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:42 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:You have proven my point. Russia has not attacked us. Spreading fake news on Facebook is not a declaration of war or an attack.

TIL anything short of overt military attacks on American troops or civilian populations is not an attack and we shouldn't be bothered by any of it.

Remember kids, until the bombs start falling, we're best friends with everyone!

The Flutterlands wrote:That is not explicit enough. We need factual scientific evidence that Russia "hacked" the election.

flutter to flutter: "why don't I set an unreasonable standard of proof? that'll work"
flutter to nsg: "why won't the cia just release all its classified info about this i mean come on are they hiding something"

Proctopeo wrote:On the other hand, they didn't "hack the election" as some claimed, as fully evident in that document.
The truth is somewhere between "Russian interns posted lies on the Internet." and "THE RUSKIES LEET HAXORED THE ELECTIONS!".

They used sophisticated methods to influence the election. It gets annoying every time someone brings this up to have people say "well they didn't HACK THE ELECTION", as if the whole election and all voter data were just stored and run on some schmuck's server and Boris and Natasha went in and changed vote numbers from "10 Trump, 123456789 Hillary" to "1 Hillary, 1000000001234567890987654321 Trump xDDD" :p

1.) Exactly. Until Russia pulls a Pearl Harbor on us, they are not our enemy. Unless they explicitly do a major cyber attack that damages our economy and destabilise everything.

2.) What is so wrong with skepticism. Why are you taking everything our corrupt "Intel" agencies as Gospel Truth.

3 ) How did they influence the election? Spreading fake news is not an attack on democracy or American soil. It's a dick move, sure, but nothing to go calling a hostile act of war.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:30 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Add one trip to the USSR during the Cold War and you have a dead campaign

Russia: America's favourite scapegoat since 1947


Since 1917 :P

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:44 pm

Well then I guess by that same logic there was no manipulation of the Democratic primaries then.
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