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Postby Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:13 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Kramania wrote:A first term senator.



And? So? Therefore?

And, so, therefore, in conclusion, to summarize, he had little experience. He was a junior senator.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:13 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Kramania wrote:Tell me about the strenuous work involved in being a senator.


Why do you believe being a senator is a nothing to job? I'm curious how an elected official in one of the biggest governments in the world is a nothing job.

Remind me again how many days of the year they work and what their job actually involves? It's a sweet gig, honestly.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:20 pm

Kramania wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:
Why do you believe being a senator is a nothing to job? I'm curious how an elected official in one of the biggest governments in the world is a nothing job.

Remind me again how many days of the year they work and what their job actually involves? It's a sweet gig, honestly.


Representing the people she represents. From my understanding of US politics, they sit in a lot of boards. I just pulled a random senator from wikipedia

Kamalaserves on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Select Committee On Intelligence, Environment and Public Works Committee, and the Committee On Budget.


So she essentially helps set the policy for America. Sounds like a job with a lot of responsibility and hours dedicated. She holds more responsibility than anyone here so it's not a nothing job per say.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:46 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Liriena wrote:I get your ideas and anecdotes, but we were talking about the popularity of progressive policies and the viability of left-wing populist candidates. And here you have a left-wing populist who has remained consistently popular throughout this year, surpassing his centrist peers, and at least one of his policies have majority support among American voters.

...I don't see an anecdote in there...

Now as someone who almost voted Bernie, even I was aware that at MOST, he could have caused a split in the votes between himself and Hillary. That's it. Not enough Democrats are going to go after someone who basically amounts to a renegade. Maybe in the future, as the party evolves, but Hillary was an establishment candidate, and most people would rather the establishment than a renegade.

Friendly reminder that polling for a potential 2020 contest between Trump and Sanders has so far given Sanders a majority of support. The same was almost never true of Hillary Clinton in 2016.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:54 pm

Liriena wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...I don't see an anecdote in there...

Now as someone who almost voted Bernie, even I was aware that at MOST, he could have caused a split in the votes between himself and Hillary. That's it. Not enough Democrats are going to go after someone who basically amounts to a renegade. Maybe in the future, as the party evolves, but Hillary was an establishment candidate, and most people would rather the establishment than a renegade.

Friendly reminder that polling for a potential 2020 contest between Trump and Sanders has so far given Sanders a majority of support. The same was almost never true of Hillary Clinton in 2016.

You're qualifying this with an "almost", so it basically becomes "polling for this thing that's 3 years out gives Sanders a majority, like it sometimes did for Hillary for an election that was much sooner" so tbh idk if this is supposed to be an argument or what
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:33 pm

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Postby Juristonia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:35 pm

Kramania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And Weinstein said they were all consentual. Being selective about which women you believe I see.

There's actually a tape of Weinstein speaking to a woman he assaulted.

Oh man. If only there was some kind of tape where you could hear Trump literally describing how he just grabs women.
Perhaps even grabbing them by their genitals or something.

But alas, where could one find such a thing!?
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Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.

Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:02 am

Kramania wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

And? So? Therefore?

And, so, therefore, in conclusion, to summarize, he had little experience. He was a junior senator.


He could've done better with more experience, but I think after a sometimes turmoil filled first term as President, he was able to adapt. Not a bad president in my opinion, a pretty damn decent one who got better as he aged, but still, had we elected, say Biden in '08, his experience would've helped as POTUS.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:03 am

Juristonia wrote:
Kramania wrote:There's actually a tape of Weinstein speaking to a woman he assaulted.

Oh man. If only there was some kind of tape where you could hear Trump literally describing how he just grabs women.
Perhaps even grabbing them by their genitals or something.

But alas, where could one find such a thing!?


It's just in, Weinstein and Trump are both sexual assaulters. It's like, as if, its something people on all sides of the political spectrum are capable of.
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Postby Juristonia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:25 am

Major-Tom wrote:
It's just in, Weinstein and Trump are both sexual assaulters. It's like, as if, its something people on all sides of the political spectrum are capable of.

But that's umpossible!
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Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.

Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:28 am

Juristonia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
It's just in, Weinstein and Trump are both sexual assaulters. It's like, as if, its something people on all sides of the political spectrum are capable of.

But that's umpossible!


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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:06 am

Liriena wrote:Friendly reminder that polling for a potential 2020 contest between Trump and Sanders has so far given Sanders a majority of support. The same was almost never true of Hillary Clinton in 2016.


Friendly reminder that polling this far out is universally regarded as non-reliable.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:08 am

Liriena wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...I don't see an anecdote in there...

Now as someone who almost voted Bernie, even I was aware that at MOST, he could have caused a split in the votes between himself and Hillary. That's it. Not enough Democrats are going to go after someone who basically amounts to a renegade. Maybe in the future, as the party evolves, but Hillary was an establishment candidate, and most people would rather the establishment than a renegade.

Friendly reminder that polling for a potential 2020 contest between Trump and Sanders has so far given Sanders a majority of support. The same was almost never true of Hillary Clinton in 2016.


Friendly reminder those numbers would tank when the GOP starts smearing Bernie as a breadline loving communist who hates America :p
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:19 am

Kramania wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

And? So? Therefore?

And, so, therefore, in conclusion, to summarize, he had little experience. He was a junior senator.

Just like Trump.

Wait, no, Trump had even less experience. He had one failed presidential campaign that he doesn't even remember any more. And after Republicans attacked Obama's experience, even after he had been President for four years, they embraced the less experienced Trump.

Huh.


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Postby Maineiacs » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:45 am

Kramania wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

And? So? Therefore?

And, so, therefore, in conclusion, to summarize, he had little experience. He was a junior senator.



And that disqualifies him from being fit to serve as President? If that's the case then Trump is really disqualified, as he's never held any elected office.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:24 am

Instead of spending money to help with the desperate situation in Puerto Rico, the Kochs are investing in political propaganda aimed at preventing displaced Puerto Ricans from voting for Democrats.


Oh dear.

For context: "As influx of Puerto Ricans continues, Koch-backed group starts seeking them out in Florida"
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:31 am

Vassenor wrote:
Instead of spending money to help with the desperate situation in Puerto Rico, the Kochs are investing in political propaganda aimed at preventing displaced Puerto Ricans from voting for Democrats.


Oh dear.

For context: "As influx of Puerto Ricans continues, Koch-backed group starts seeking them out in Florida"

The Kochs are going straight to Hell.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:33 am



The 9th level, most assuredly.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:25 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Liriena wrote:The Kochs are going straight to Hell.


The 9th level, most assuredly.

They might have to build a 10th.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:28 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
The 9th level, most assuredly.

They might have to build a 10th.


With a wall.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:30 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
The 9th level, most assuredly.

They might have to build a 10th.

Or the eleventh circle of hell
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:40 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:They might have to build a 10th.

Or the eleventh circle of hell


I'd love to see the Koch Brothers working for those two by the 11th.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:45 am

Kramania wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

And? So? Therefore?

And, so, therefore, in conclusion, to summarize, he had little experience. He was a junior senator.

Being a junior senator doesn’t mean that you don’t have experience, it means that you haven’t been elected longer than your Co-senator
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Postby Steffan » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:46 am

Genivaria wrote:
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:48 am

Kramania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president

A first term senator.

So is ted Cruz and nobody has said he’s inexperienced
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