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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:52 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Kramania wrote:He was a first year senator with little experience. But yeah, he's not a reality TV star even though he sometimes seems to think he is.


Stop lying. He was a state senator from 1997 to 2004, and a US senator from 2005-2008, before we even mention his legal career.

*first term senator

And wow. A state senator. I'm impressed.

He was a civil rights attorney who taught constitutional law.

He still had little actual experience. Being a senator is practically a do-nothing job anyway, let alone being a state senator.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:56 pm

Kramania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Stop lying. He was a state senator from 1997 to 2004, and a US senator from 2005-2008, before we even mention his legal career.

*first term senator

And wow. A state senator. I'm impressed.

He was a civil rights attorney who taught constitutional law.

He still had little actual experience. Being a senator is practically a do-nothing job anyway, let alone being a state senator.

Far be it from me to defend Obama, but this is just silly.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:26 pm

Kramania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Pay your child support. :p

He's an anarchist so I doubt he believes in money.


Hmm, okay, but wouldn't an anarchist generally opt for an abortion than deal with the prospects of child rearing as an anarchist?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:35 pm

Kramania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:She hasn't announced anything, but enjoy the false equivalence fantasy.

And of course when she does I'm sure she will be rejected for having no experience just like Obama was... oh wait.

Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:37 pm

Kramania wrote: Being a senator is practically a do-nothing job anyway, let alone being a state senator.


^Somebody who has no idea what being a Senator entails.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:41 pm

Kramania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Stop lying. He was a state senator from 1997 to 2004, and a US senator from 2005-2008, before we even mention his legal career.

*first term senator

And wow. A state senator. I'm impressed.

He was a civil rights attorney who taught constitutional law.

He still had little actual experience. Being a senator is practically a do-nothing job anyway, let alone being a state senator.

So i guess you are fine with the democrats taking control of the do nothing senate?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kramania wrote:And of course when she does I'm sure she will be rejected for having no experience just like Obama was... oh wait.

Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president

And then he was President for four years. And then for four more years.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president

And then he was President for four years. And then for four more years.

A similar case can be made for a certain Californian actor.
Schwarzenegger, of course.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:49 pm

Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:53 pm

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Bombadil wrote:
Well she was friends with Weinstein.. Trump is Weinstein.. I'd think it hard for Trump to lay that charge on her.. though god knows he would and god knows it would shift the media debate into 'what's worse, to be friends with sexual predator or to be a sexual predator.. you decide!'

Trump didn't actually touch anyone.

And Weinstein said they were all consentual. Being selective about which women you believe I see.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And then he was President for four years. And then for four more years.

A similar case can be made for a certain Californian actor.
Schwarzenegger, of course.

Not a natural born citizen.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:A similar case can be made for a certain Californian actor.
Schwarzenegger, of course.

Not a natural born citizen.

True, but we still have an example of an inexperienced celebrity becoming a powerful executive. I admire Arnold greatly but he was a mediocre governor.
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:57 pm




Given Trump's penchant for projection, should we starting combing through his old tweets to see if he ever accused anyone of secretly being a cross-dresser?
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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:08 pm


I can't read this article.
Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:I think that whether that was a good thing or not is highly subjective, but if you suscribe to the idea that the Democrats needed to mitigate their opponents' grounds to minimize their criticism of Trump as hypocritical, getting Franken to resign was a decent strategic mood. It gave Democrats the moral high ground, if at the expense of a very prominent and popular Democrat. There is of course a counterpoint to be made that the moral high ground doesn't really matter anymore because partisan tribalism and polarization ensures that voters will stick by their preferred parties even in the face of blatant double standards... but that's debatable. We do see that phenomenon among Republicans, but I'm not sure the same can be said for Democrats.

Fuck the moral high ground. It hasn’t done anything for us. We had the moral high ground in 2016 and we lost, we had the moral high ground in that Montana special election and we lost. The moral high ground is trash.

Disingenuous tone policing is not the moral high ground.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:18 pm

Maineiacs wrote:



Given Trump's penchant for projection, should we starting combing through his old tweets to see if he ever accused anyone of secretly being a cross-dresser?


He could accuse Rudy Giuliani, but Trump would know from experience.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:30 pm

“I love Oprah,” he told CNN. “She’s popular, she’s brilliant, she’s a wonderful woman … That would be a pretty good ticket.”

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:05 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Given Trump's penchant for projection, should we starting combing through his old tweets to see if he ever accused anyone of secretly being a cross-dresser?


He could accuse Rudy Giuliani, but Trump would know from experience.

He did grab a pussy in that skit.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:12 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
He could accuse Rudy Giuliani, but Trump would know from experience.

He did grab a pussy in that skit.

These double entendres keep getting worse.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kramania wrote:And of course when she does I'm sure she will be rejected for having no experience just like Obama was... oh wait.

Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president


In his defense at that time, the Daley machine was in full swing and we can be sure Obama had some management experience in the mafi-friendly IL government.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:23 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president


In his defense at that time, the Daley machine was in full swing and we can be sure Obama had some management experience in the mafi-friendly IL government.


If you're a Democrat in Illinois, you either get with the Daley machine, or see yourself losing elections (unless of course you're Blagojevich, then you and your stupid toupee just go straight to jail as he should have).

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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:57 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kramania wrote:Trump didn't actually touch anyone.

And Weinstein said they were all consentual. Being selective about which women you believe I see.

There's actually a tape of Weinstein speaking to a woman he assaulted.
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:58 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Kramania wrote: Being a senator is practically a do-nothing job anyway, let alone being a state senator.


^Somebody who has no idea what being a Senator entails.

Tell me about the strenuous work involved in being a senator.
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:59 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kramania wrote:And of course when she does I'm sure she will be rejected for having no experience just like Obama was... oh wait.

Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president

A first term senator.
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:00 pm

Kramania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Obama actually had experience. He was a state senator and US Senator before he became president

A first term senator.



And? So? Therefore?
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:00 pm

Kramania wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
^Somebody who has no idea what being a Senator entails.

Tell me about the strenuous work involved in being a senator.


Why do you believe being a senator is a nothing to job? I'm curious how an elected official in one of the biggest governments in the world is a nothing job.
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