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by Ifreann » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:58 pm

by Northern Davincia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:59 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:01 pm
Ifreann wrote:Kramania wrote:He was a first year senator with little experience. But yeah, he's not a reality TV star even though he sometimes seems to think he is.
So you're bringing up a politician you think had too little political experience to be president in comparison to a talk show host who has no political experience at all. `
Seems like you just want to try and get some digs in on Obama.

by Jerzylvania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:05 pm

by Bombadil » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:06 pm
Kramania wrote:Ifreann wrote:So you're bringing up a politician you think had too little political experience to be president in comparison to a talk show host who has no political experience at all. `
Seems like you just want to try and get some digs in on Obama.
Oh, no. Not at Obama.
Just Oprah.
Obama was just the best comparison I could make.

by Luminesa » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:07 pm
Liriena wrote:Thermodolia wrote:It doesn’t matter what the democrats think of sanders it matters what others like independents think. And as of right now they are spilt. Democrats don’t win elections alone they need us independents to win. And Sanders or a sanders like candidate is to much for me and many independents that I know of.
Now do I think that government funded health care would be great? Yes I do.
Do I think Sanders Medicare for all is a good plan? No I do not.
We need to keep the multi payer system it has helped us to be one of the most efficient health care systems in the world. Now multi payer doesn’t mean no government funding. Many nations in Europe are multi payera dn they have government funded healthcare.
We should follow the german method of having 60/40 with 60% of the bill paid by the government and the rest paid by private insurance companies
I get your ideas and anecdotes, but we were talking about the popularity of progressive policies and the viability of left-wing populist candidates. And here you have a left-wing populist who has remained consistently popular throughout this year, surpassing his centrist peers, and at least one of his policies have majority support among American voters.

by Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:09 pm
Bombadil wrote:
If Oprah did run I imagine the fact she's a TV star with no political experience would rank quite high as there's not much else one could charge her with.. for Trump that would be way down the list compared to all the other reasons people dislike him.
I mean, even Obama, what were the charges, little political experience, not born in America, probably a commie or a muslim or both, of which most weren't even true.
Trump on the other hand..

by Genivaria » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:10 pm
Kramania wrote:Bombadil wrote:
If Oprah did run I imagine the fact she's a TV star with no political experience would rank quite high as there's not much else one could charge her with.. for Trump that would be way down the list compared to all the other reasons people dislike him.
I mean, even Obama, what were the charges, little political experience, not born in America, probably a commie or a muslim or both, of which most weren't even true.
Trump on the other hand..
There's also this.
If you squint you can see his boner under the table
I can think of quite a few reasons to dislike Oprah.
by Bombadil » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:12 pm
Kramania wrote:Bombadil wrote:
If Oprah did run I imagine the fact she's a TV star with no political experience would rank quite high as there's not much else one could charge her with.. for Trump that would be way down the list compared to all the other reasons people dislike him.
I mean, even Obama, what were the charges, little political experience, not born in America, probably a commie or a muslim or both, of which most weren't even true.
Trump on the other hand..
There's also this.
If you squint you can see his boner under the table
I can think of quite a few reasons to dislike Oprah.

by Kramania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:15 pm
Bombadil wrote:Kramania wrote:There's also this.
If you squint you can see his boner under the table
I can think of quite a few reasons to dislike Oprah.
Well she was friends with Weinstein.. Trump is Weinstein.. I'd think it hard for Trump to lay that charge on her.. though god knows he would and god knows it would shift the media debate into 'what's worse, to be friends with sexual predator or to be a sexual predator.. you decide!'

by Ifreann » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:18 pm
Kramania wrote:Ifreann wrote:So you're bringing up a politician you think had too little political experience to be president in comparison to a talk show host who has no political experience at all. `
Seems like you just want to try and get some digs in on Obama.
Oh, no. Not at Obama.
Just Oprah.
Obama was just the best comparison I could make.
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