Trump MAGAThread XI: Button, Button, Who's Got The Button?

[Cannot think of a name]

Don't know if anyone's posted this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manafort-sue ... itics.html

Manafort's got a brass pair, I'll give him that. Anyone think this will work to derail the investigation?

Some dude in the last thread thought this was a reason to abandon the whole Russia thing all together unless we wanted trump 2020. “Guy who got caught doesn’t think he should have got caught” didn’t seem like a compelling damnation to me.

[Cannot think of a name]

So, Trump is having one of his "we've always been at war with Eastasia" moments again?

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Ha, “he has yet to lead us astray...”

[Ifreann]

Trump disbands "voter fraud" commission, citing 'endless legal battles'

Is America great again yet?

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So, Trump is having one of his "we've always been at war with Eastasia" moments again?

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Bannon has betrayed The Donald, and is now an unperson.

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So, Trump is having one of his "we've always been at war with Eastasia" moments again?

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Accurate. Bannon is the biggest threat to Trump’s administration and agenda.

Maybe that's just what the liberals want you to believe.

[Senkaku]

Don't know if anyone's posted this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manafort-sue ... itics.html

Manafort's got a brass pair, I'll give him that. Anyone think this will work to derail the investigation?

That's going to get dismissed real quick tbh

"listen guys I know you found the bodies but you weren't actively looking for them, you just stumbled upon them, so you have to put them back!"

[Maineiacs]

Don't know if anyone's posted this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manafort-sue ... itics.html

Manafort's got a brass pair, I'll give him that. Anyone think this will work to derail the investigation?

That's going to get dismissed real quick tbh

"listen guys I know you found the bodies but you weren't actively looking for them, you just stumbled upon them, so you have to put them back!"

Most sources I've seen seem to be taking that viewpoint. I hope they're right.

[Liriena]

Trump disbands "voter fraud" commission, citing 'endless legal battles'

Is America great again yet?

That commission was such a shitshow that I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans became a bit reluctant to keep on beating the "voter fraud" dead horse and dialed down their love for voter suppression. So... maybe?

[Cannot think of a name]

That's going to get dismissed real quick tbh

"listen guys I know you found the bodies but you weren't actively looking for them, you just stumbled upon them, so you have to put them back!"

Most sources I've seen seem to be taking that viewpoint. I hope they're right.

I haven’t read these stories yet but at the time of the indictment I remember reading that the reason he was first was that the investigation was already underway and all Mueller did was carry it across the line.

[The East Marches II]

You are being arrogant and foolish for thinking otherwise.

So you're saying I'm being the Emperor in Return of the Jedi? Neat.

Seriously, though, I'm not sure how this will turn out for Bannon and Trump. It may all boil down to whether the lion's share of Trump's base (or at least his more militant base) are primarily ideologues or cultists. If the majority care more about ideology and policies than they do about Trump as their leader, Trump's fighting with Bannon is not going to end well for him.

Rather the outcome for the winner is irrelevant, them fighting takes their power down a few notches. Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans. There is a reason Oil Exporting Peoples is cheering him along.

[Liriena]

So you're saying I'm being the Emperor in Return of the Jedi? Neat.

Seriously, though, I'm not sure how this will turn out for Bannon and Trump. It may all boil down to whether the lion's share of Trump's base (or at least his more militant base) are primarily ideologues or cultists. If the majority care more about ideology and policies than they do about Trump as their leader, Trump's fighting with Bannon is not going to end well for him.

Rather the outcome for the winner is irrelevant, them fighting takes their power down a few notches. Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans. There is a reason Oil Exporting Peoples is cheering him along.

It does open the door to some really weird primaries season this year, if it's going to be Bannon vs Trump (vs the Republican establishment, maybe). Trump has few friends and little political capital as it is, and an isolated and repudiated Bannon is going to have a hard time convincing his future radicals that he's the voice of the Trumpist movement.

[The East Marches II]

Rather the outcome for the winner is irrelevant, them fighting takes their power down a few notches. Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans. There is a reason Oil Exporting Peoples is cheering him along.

It does open the door to some really weird primaries season this year, if it's going to be Bannon vs Trump (vs the Republican establishment, maybe). Trump has few friends and little political capital as it is, and an isolated and repudiated Bannon is going to have a hard time convincing his future radicals that he's the voice of the Trumpist movement.

I think it's going to be the radical versus the established. If that window of acceptable ideas is shifted, even if there is a slight loss in majority or a loss, they will have accomplished their goal. Especially when Bannon is preaching something a bit lefter than the Dems.

[Liriena]

It does open the door to some really weird primaries season this year, if it's going to be Bannon vs Trump (vs the Republican establishment, maybe). Trump has few friends and little political capital as it is, and an isolated and repudiated Bannon is going to have a hard time convincing his future radicals that he's the voice of the Trumpist movement.

I think it's going to be the radical versus the established. If that window of acceptable ideas is shifted, even if there is a slight loss in majority or a loss, they will have accomplished their goal. Especially when Bannon is preaching something a bit lefter than the Dems.

Are you talking about Bannon's "I'm a Leninist shtick"? Also, while I'm not getting my hopes up, we have been seeing a lot of activity from the more left-wing Dem factions (and a couple of victories). I'm starting to get the feeling that, while Republicans are about to get their second wave of insane and stupid far right radicals in a decade, Democrats are going to face a bit of a leftist takeover of their own.

[The East Marches II]

I think it's going to be the radical versus the established. If that window of acceptable ideas is shifted, even if there is a slight loss in majority or a loss, they will have accomplished their goal. Especially when Bannon is preaching something a bit lefter than the Dems.

Are you talking about Bannon's "I'm a Leninist shtick"? Also, while I'm not getting my hopes up, we have been seeing a lot of activity from the more left-wing Dem factions (and a couple of victories). I'm starting to get the feeling that, while Republicans are about to get their second wave of insane and stupid far right radicals in a decade, Democrats are going to face a bit of a leftist takeover of their own.

Rather Bannon is more hostile to international capital than the Lennist stuff. It's why Clinton lost the union vote. I'd put my money on the far right before I put it on moderates. The victory of those leftists is yet to be seen. As I said before, you do yourself a great diservice dismissing him as a fool. I remember that happening last cycle and it didn't go so good.

[Liriena]

Are you talking about Bannon's "I'm a Leninist shtick"? Also, while I'm not getting my hopes up, we have been seeing a lot of activity from the more left-wing Dem factions (and a couple of victories). I'm starting to get the feeling that, while Republicans are about to get their second wave of insane and stupid far right radicals in a decade, Democrats are going to face a bit of a leftist takeover of their own.

Rather Bannon is more hostile to international capital than the Lennist stuff.

He is? I mean, I am vaguely aware of his "muh (((globalists)))" shtick, but not much beyond that.

It's why Clinton lost the union vote. I'd put my money on the far right before I put it on moderates. The victory of those leftists is yet to be seen. As I said before, you do yourself a great diservice dismissing him as a fool. I remember that happening last cycle and it didn't go so good.

I tell it as I see it: I don't think Bannon is harmless, but I also don't think he's nearly as cunning and powerful as he thinks he is.

[Improved werpland]

Rather the outcome for the winner is irrelevant, them fighting takes their power down a few notches. Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans. There is a reason Oil Exporting Peoples is cheering him along.

Where are people getting this idea from? I honestly believe Trump when he says that Bannon just sat there and pretended to be important. He strikes me as an edgy liberal arts major more than a political mastermind. Either that, or he's just another dumb Republican activist who riles people up for a year and then disappears into unpopularity after putting his lot into power.

[The East Marches II]

Rather Bannon is more hostile to international capital than the Lennist stuff.

He is? I mean, I am vaguely aware of his "muh (((globalists)))" shtick, but not much beyond that.

It's why Clinton lost the union vote. I'd put my money on the far right before I put it on moderates. The victory of those leftists is yet to be seen. As I said before, you do yourself a great diservice dismissing him as a fool. I remember that happening last cycle and it didn't go so good.

I tell it as I see it: I don't think Bannon is harmless, but I also don't think he's nearly as cunning and powerful as he thinks he is.

Well Bannon's propensity for self uhhh bad stuff is well known. You should see more of what they have pouring out of the propaganda mill, it's why Arleton doesn't like his sort so much. He is clever and dangerous. It's no mistake why a new radicalized right likes him so much. The days of stormfront are gone, that was an easy enemy.

[The East Marches II]

Rather the outcome for the winner is irrelevant, them fighting takes their power down a few notches. Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans. There is a reason Oil Exporting Peoples is cheering him along.

Where are people getting this idea from? I honestly believe Trump when he says that Bannon just sat there and pretended to be important. He strikes me as an edgy liberal arts major more than a political mastermind. Either that, or he's just another dumb Republican activist who riles people up for a year and then disappears into unpopularity after putting his lot into power.

Because people like you think he is stupid. With your excellent track record of predictions and political outcomes, I am never more certain of that opinion than I am now. :^)

[Bombadil]

Rather the outcome for the winner is irrelevant, them fighting takes their power down a few notches. Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans. There is a reason Oil Exporting Peoples is cheering him along.

Where are people getting this idea from? I honestly believe Trump when he says that Bannon just sat there and pretended to be important. He strikes me as an edgy liberal arts major more than a political mastermind. Either that, or he's just another dumb Republican activist who riles people up for a year and then disappears into unpopularity after putting his lot into power.

“I have known Steve and Kellyanne both for many years. They are extremely capable, highly qualified people who love to win and know how to win,” Trump said in the statement. I believe we’re adding some of the best talents in politics, with the experience and expertise needed to defeat Hillary Clinton in November and continue to share my message and vision to Make America Great Again."

We're getting that idea from Trump..

[Senkaku]

He is clever and dangerous.

As I said before, you do yourself a great diservice dismissing him as a fool.

Bannon is dangerous in that in and of himself he is a competent political operator who could seriously radicalize the Republicans.

"competent political operator" lmao do I need to repost my alabama meme

Because people like you think he is stupid.

Ah so you don't actually think he's smart, you just like calling liberals dumb and being contrarian

cool have a pleasant evening

[Liriena]

He is? I mean, I am vaguely aware of his "muh (((globalists)))" shtick, but not much beyond that.


I tell it as I see it: I don't think Bannon is harmless, but I also don't think he's nearly as cunning and powerful as he thinks he is.

Well Bannon's propensity for self uhhh bad stuff is well known. You should see more of what they have pouring out of the propaganda mill, it's why Arleton doesn't like his sort so much. He is clever and dangerous. It's no mistake why a new radicalized right likes him so much. The days of stormfront are gone, that was an easy enemy.

Well, you're not wrong about the issue of difficulty. The new radicalized right is a different beast to tackle, even if deep down it is the same shit.

[The East Marches II]

Ah so you don't actually think he's smart, you just like calling liberals dumb and being contrarian

cool have a pleasant evening

There are some people who are so consistently wrong that one can use them to accurately gauge the future. I believe we've been over that before and you still didn't grasp it then :^)

[Liriena]

Devin Nunes may be screwed.

Where are people getting this idea from? I honestly believe Trump when he says that Bannon just sat there and pretended to be important. He strikes me as an edgy liberal arts major more than a political mastermind. Either that, or he's just another dumb Republican activist who riles people up for a year and then disappears into unpopularity after putting his lot into power.

“I have known Steve and Kellyanne both for many years. They are extremely capable, highly qualified people who love to win and know how to win,” Trump said in the statement. I believe we’re adding some of the best talents in politics, with the experience and expertise needed to defeat Hillary Clinton in November and continue to share my message and vision to Make America Great Again."

We're getting that idea from Trump..

To be fair to Trump, he measures capability and qualifications in terms of the quantity and quality of the brown-nosing provided.

[Improved werpland]

Where are people getting this idea from? I honestly believe Trump when he says that Bannon just sat there and pretended to be important. He strikes me as an edgy liberal arts major more than a political mastermind. Either that, or he's just another dumb Republican activist who riles people up for a year and then disappears into unpopularity after putting his lot into power.

Because people like you think he is stupid. With your excellent track record of predictions and political outcomes, I am never more certain of that opinion than I am now. :^)

What has Bannon done that's so amazing? As far as I can see he's run a popular bad website and briefly advised Trump's successful campaign. Especially right now, it's clear that the latter is not his fault. Trump is the tribal leader of the Ignored White People of the Midwest America region and Steve Bannon is the outcast former alpha tribe member.

[The East Marches II]

Because people like you think he is stupid. With your excellent track record of predictions and political outcomes, I am never more certain of that opinion than I am now. :^)

What has Bannon done that's so amazing? As far as I can see he's run a popular bad website and briefly advised Trump's successful campaign. Especially right now, it's clear that the latter is not his fault. Trump is the tribal leader of the Ignored White People of the Midwest America region and Steve Bannon is the outcast former alpha tribe member.

If I remember correctly, a terrible upset happened just about a year ago :^)

But don't worry Werpland, I'm sure your sort will work everything out just like they have all over the world.

[Improved werpland]

What has Bannon done that's so amazing? As far as I can see he's run a popular bad website and briefly advised Trump's successful campaign. Especially right now, it's clear that the latter is not his fault. Trump is the tribal leader of the Ignored White People of the Midwest America region and Steve Bannon is the outcast former alpha tribe member.

If I remember correctly, a terrible upset happened just about a year ago :^)

But don't worry Werpland, I'm sure your sort will work everything out just like they have all over the world.

If you genuinely looked for "le people who get it wrong all the time" you'd find that they're afraid of Steve Bannon.

[Liriena]

Ah so you don't actually think he's smart, you just like calling liberals dumb and being contrarian

cool have a pleasant evening

There are some people who are so consistently wrong that one can use them to accurately gauge the future. I believe we've been over that before and you still didn't grasp it then :^)

To be fair, thinking that Bannon is an idiot isn't necessarily synonymous with underestimating him.

As George Carlin taught us, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.