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Change This To An "American Politics" Thread?

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:18 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There should be not finger on either side, each is as wrong as the other. And saying "The bench should look like the community it serves" is stupid, looks don't make a damn but of difference. If you care about a person based upon how they LOOK then I have a news flash for you, you're a fucking racist.

Ah yes, the 'lets pretend racism has no legacy and ended in some nebulous time and it's all okay now.'

I'm not going to play the "I'm not racist YOUR racist" game because it's dumb.

There is a history of unrest, oppression, riots, abuses, and neglect that indicate that it absolutely matters to have the people in power come from the communities they preside over, and the effects of not doing that are still felt today.

Play your name game. I don't care. I've read a history book or two, kept up on current events...not going to really care if someone desperate to score some political points takes the easy way out.


Okay friendo, keep judging people based off melanin content. Because that's not racist at all... :roll:
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:18 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That's not what I said. When 92 percent of your nominees are white men in a country that isn't overwhelmingly white and in about 20 years won't be its an issue.


It's only an issue if you're a racist.

That looking glass world where recognizing a racial issue is racist.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:18 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Frankly, I don't care if the person representing me is a five-eyed alien blob monster from Enceladus, as long as they're qualified and represent my views, even if imperfectly.

And there in lies the rub...

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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:19 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kramanica wrote:So about 70% of his nominees should be white? Do we need to do an exact measurement based on population and hand out seats based on that? That's... stupid.

Almost as stupid as thinking you get to 92% white nominees on 'merit'.


92% of """qualified""" conservative judge candidates are white men? Who ever would guessed? Clearly its a conspiracy.
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Canstan II
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Postby Canstan II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Yeah just because they're not white, according to you.

That's not what I said. When 92 percent of your nominees are white men in a country that isn't overwhelmingly white and in about 20 years won't be its an issue.

I thought you said you didn't care about skin color?

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:19 pm

Telconi wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Ah yes, the 'lets pretend racism has no legacy and ended in some nebulous time and it's all okay now.'

I'm not going to play the "I'm not racist YOUR racist" game because it's dumb.

There is a history of unrest, oppression, riots, abuses, and neglect that indicate that it absolutely matters to have the people in power come from the communities they preside over, and the effects of not doing that are still felt today.

Play your name game. I don't care. I've read a history book or two, kept up on current events...not going to really care if someone desperate to score some political points takes the easy way out.


Okay friendo, keep judging people based off melanin content. Because that's not racist at all... :roll:


No one is doing that.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:19 pm

Canstan II wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That's not what I said. When 92 percent of your nominees are white men in a country that isn't overwhelmingly white and in about 20 years won't be its an issue.

I thought you said you didn't care about skin color?

Are you and others even reading what im saying?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:19 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:And there in lies the rub...

:eyebrow:
Are the views of people who are supposed to represent you to some degree unimportant to you?

You know who best represents your views or at the very least best understands your experiences? Someone from your community.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:20 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There should be not finger on either side, each is as wrong as the other. And saying "The bench should look like the community it serves" is stupid, looks don't make a damn but of difference. If you care about a person based upon how they LOOK then I have a news flash for you, you're a fucking racist.

Ah yes, the 'lets pretend racism has no legacy and ended in some nebulous time and it's all okay now.'

I'm not going to play the "I'm not racist YOUR racist" game because it's dumb.

There is a history of unrest, oppression, riots, abuses, and neglect that indicate that it absolutely matters to have the people in power come from the communities they preside over, and the effects of not doing that are still felt today.

Play your name game. I don't care. I've read a history book or two, kept up on current events...not going to really care if someone desperate to score some political points takes the easy way out.

But that’s exactly the game you’ve been playing with everyone. When you’re spending posts screeching about white people getting elected, and then you respond to someone clearly calling you out on the game, you’re playing the game. And you can choose to quit and go to bed any time you want. Vote for the people you want to vote for, who you think will change the community. Don’t screech if that person happens to be a skin color you don’t like.
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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:20 pm

Telconi wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Ah yes, the 'lets pretend racism has no legacy and ended in some nebulous time and it's all okay now.'

I'm not going to play the "I'm not racist YOUR racist" game because it's dumb.

There is a history of unrest, oppression, riots, abuses, and neglect that indicate that it absolutely matters to have the people in power come from the communities they preside over, and the effects of not doing that are still felt today.

Play your name game. I don't care. I've read a history book or two, kept up on current events...not going to really care if someone desperate to score some political points takes the easy way out.


Okay friendo, keep judging people based off melanin content. Because that's not racist at all... :roll:
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:20 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's only an issue if you're a racist.

That looking glass world where recognizing a racial issue is racist.

And then screeching and cursing people out about it.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. Not that I need the coffee, but you know... :3

So apparently I am an ENFP!

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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Canstan II
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Postby Canstan II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:So about 70% of his nominees should be white? Do we need to do an exact measurement based on population and hand out seats based on that? That's... stupid.

No one is saying that. What they are saying is when all you nominate is white men in a country that is rapidly diversifying its a major issue. What does that say to a child in say Atlanta or Birmingham?

Why do you think black kids are incapable of looking up to non-black leaders as inspirations? Should Carl Sagan not have been able to inspire Neil deGrasse Tyson? Or Isaac Newton for Sylvester James Gates?

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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:21 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Proctopeo wrote: :eyebrow:
Are the views of people who are supposed to represent you to some degree unimportant to you?

You know who best represents your views or at the very least best understands your experiences? Someone from your community.

So vote for them. It’s that simple.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. Not that I need the coffee, but you know... :3

So apparently I am an ENFP!

Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Canstan II
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Postby Canstan II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Canstan II wrote:I thought you said you didn't care about skin color?

Are you and others even reading what im saying?

Yes I am. The clashing of your two stated positions is bewildering.

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:22 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Okay friendo, keep judging people based off melanin content. Because that's not racist at all... :roll:
zzzzzzZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ

If you’re out of replies and you’re wasting posts then you should probably go to bed. Obviously you’re tired of talking.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. Not that I need the coffee, but you know... :3

So apparently I am an ENFP!

Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:22 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Proctopeo wrote: :eyebrow:
Are the views of people who are supposed to represent you to some degree unimportant to you?

You know who best represents your views or at the very least best understands your experiences? Someone from your community.


Not even. I live in Olympia and my reps absolutely do not understand my experiences or represent my views. Not even close.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:22 pm

Canstan II wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No one is saying that. What they are saying is when all you nominate is white men in a country that is rapidly diversifying its a major issue. What does that say to a child in say Atlanta or Birmingham?

Why do you think black kids are incapable of looking up to non-black leaders as inspirations? Should Carl Sagan not have been able to inspire Neil deGrasse Tyson? Or Isaac Newton for Sylvester James Gates?

I didn't say that. when you have judges being nominated who want to go back to the 1950s or earlier I dont think that gives young woman or non whites someone to look up to.

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Postby Ransium » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:26 pm

The personal attacks and shit posting in this thread are getting out of hand. I think I'm going to end it this iteration of the thread here. Let's all try to start the next thread on a clean slate and avoid the personal attacks, and blatant ignoring of other posters.

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