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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You're both at about the same level tbh


I dont think any country is a shithole and that we should have a discriminatory immigration system and that we should be regressing on equal rights which is what he believes. So by no means am I a racist.

well you do have an irrational hatred of white men.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:04 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:What right-wing rag is this? If Schumer actually did this, then I don't agree with it. I can't confirm that it actually happened from a more reliable news source, however.

There's literally a video of it.

Unfortunate that he's pandering. That's not a good reason to oppose a nominee.

If he's a partisan hack who will legislate Republican policy from the bench, on the other hand, oppose away.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:04 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:If qualified, yes. Merits more important than skin.

Not according to San Lumen


I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You're both at about the same level tbh


I dont think any country is a shithole and that we should have a discriminatory immigration system and that we should be regressing on equal rights which is what he believes. So by no means am I a racist.


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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I dont think any country is a shithole and that we should have a discriminatory immigration system and that we should be regressing on equal rights which is what he believes. So by no means am I a racist.


"I'm not a racist exactly like Donald so that means I'm not at all racist, also whiteys get out of government."

Never said that.

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Freezic Vast
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:05 pm

Here's the thing; if they are qualified regardless of skin color what's the big deal? Positions should be based on merit, not skin color.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:05 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Do you think it's wrong to oppose a nominee based purely on their race?

Yes, Their chose should be by merit rather than race

When 92% of your nominees are white...ninety fucking two percent...it's worth perhaps noting that maybe this hasn't been the case. That perhaps the finger has been placed a bit on the scale for white nominees and it might be time to put a finger on the other side. It's worth wondering if it really is merit if 92% of your nominees, who will preside over a population that is not 92% white, a population that will rely on them making fair judgements, are all from the same race. It's worth it to go, "Wait, the bench should look like the community it serves.

I don't buy the crocodile tears about 'merit,' you don't get to 92% on fucking merit. And if you do, that's still a problem.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Not according to San Lumen


I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that far right-wingers with actual credentials are overwhelmingly white men.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Not according to San Lumen


I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.


>I don't care.about skin color.
>Nominees shouldn't be of this particular skin color.

Seriously pick one...
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Freezic Vast
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Not according to San Lumen


I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.

Maybe because they are more qualified than some blacks are. Get over it, this is a non-issue and you know it.
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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
"Foreign aid"

I suppose the Egyptians must like their new tanks tbh.

Well Obama tried cutting them off, or at least down to size, before, saying they had to make changes. But they didn't care, so we gave back the aid. Oh well.


Was that before or after Mubarak?

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Yes, Their chose should be by merit rather than race

When 92% of your nominees are white...ninety fucking two percent...it's worth perhaps noting that maybe this hasn't been the case. That perhaps the finger has been placed a bit on the scale for white nominees and it might be time to put a finger on the other side. It's worth wondering if it really is merit if 92% of your nominees, who will preside over a population that is not 92% white, a population that will rely on them making fair judgements, are all from the same race. It's worth it to go, "Wait, the bench should look like the community it serves.

I don't buy the crocodile tears about 'merit,' you don't get to 92% on fucking merit. And if you do, that's still a problem.

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Holy Tedalonia
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Not according to San Lumen


I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.

I'm hearing: "we need a regulated standard that their needs to be one person form each ethnicity regardless of merit."
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that far right-wingers with actual credentials are overwhelmingly white men.


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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:07 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I dont care about skin color. qualification and views matter more but What I object to is when you have a country that is as diverse as ours you should not be nominating all white men.

Maybe because they are more qualified than some blacks are. Get over it, this is a non-issue and you know it.

there are plenty of qualified non whites that could be nominated as well.

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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:07 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Yes, Their chose should be by merit rather than race

When 92% of your nominees are white...ninety fucking two percent...it's worth perhaps noting that maybe this hasn't been the case. That perhaps the finger has been placed a bit on the scale for white nominees and it might be time to put a finger on the other side. It's worth wondering if it really is merit if 92% of your nominees, who will preside over a population that is not 92% white, a population that will rely on them making fair judgements, are all from the same race. It's worth it to go, "Wait, the bench should look like the community it serves.

I don't buy the crocodile tears about 'merit,' you don't get to 92% on fucking merit. And if you do, that's still a problem.


Of course not, afterall as you said we need to "share". Don't you get tired of tryhard edge posting?

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Freezic Vast
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Maybe because they are more qualified than some blacks are. Get over it, this is a non-issue and you know it.

there are plenty of qualified non whites that could be nominated as well.

Yeah just because they're not white, according to you.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:08 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Well Obama tried cutting them off, or at least down to size, before, saying they had to make changes. But they didn't care, so we gave back the aid. Oh well.


Was that before or after Mubarak?

After.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:08 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Yes, Their chose should be by merit rather than race

When 92% of your nominees are white...ninety fucking two percent...it's worth perhaps noting that maybe this hasn't been the case. That perhaps the finger has been placed a bit on the scale for white nominees and it might be time to put a finger on the other side. It's worth wondering if it really is merit if 92% of your nominees, who will preside over a population that is not 92% white, a population that will rely on them making fair judgements, are all from the same race. It's worth it to go, "Wait, the bench should look like the community it serves.

I don't buy the crocodile tears about 'merit,' you don't get to 92% on fucking merit. And if you do, that's still a problem.


There should be not finger on either side, each is as wrong as the other. And saying "The bench should look like the community it serves" is stupid, looks don't make a damn but of difference. If you care about a person based upon how they LOOK then I have a news flash for you, you're a fucking racist.
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Postby Kramanica » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You're both at about the same level tbh


I dont think any country is a shithole and that we should have a discriminatory immigration system and that we should be regressing on equal rights which is what he believes. So by no means am I a racist.

No, you just want to be discriminatory against white people.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:08 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:When 92% of your nominees are white...ninety fucking two percent...it's worth perhaps noting that maybe this hasn't been the case. That perhaps the finger has been placed a bit on the scale for white nominees and it might be time to put a finger on the other side. It's worth wondering if it really is merit if 92% of your nominees, who will preside over a population that is not 92% white, a population that will rely on them making fair judgements, are all from the same race. It's worth it to go, "Wait, the bench should look like the community it serves.

I don't buy the crocodile tears about 'merit,' you don't get to 92% on fucking merit. And if you do, that's still a problem.


Of course not, afterall as you said we need to "share". Don't you get tired of tryhard edge posting?

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Was that before or after Mubarak?

After.


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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:there are plenty of qualified non whites that could be nominated as well.

Yeah just because they're not white, according to you.

That's not what I said. When 92 percent of your nominees are white men in a country that isn't overwhelmingly white and in about 20 years won't be its an issue.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm

Kramanica wrote:Apparently one of Trump's district court nominees is too white for Chuck Schumer.


This has less to do with Trump and more to do with Chuck Schumer.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Yeah just because they're not white, according to you.

That's not what I said. When 92 percent of your nominees are white men in a country that isn't overwhelmingly white and in about 20 years won't be its an issue.


It's only an issue if you're a racist.
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