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by Petrasylvania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:24 pm

by Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:47 pm

by Farnhamia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:50 pm

by Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:52 pm
Farnhamia wrote:
In a Rasmussen poll, Kramanica. That's like citing an MSNBC poll to show that most Americans like Barack Obama.

by Farnhamia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:53 pm

by Shofercia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:55 pm

by Ifreann » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:57 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Ifreann wrote:Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,"
No, no. When people ram things with their cars, it's because someone was threatening them. They were just trying to escape and thepeoplebarrier happened to be in the way.
Surely there will be a video soon recorded into a radio shack usb mic that purports to show definitively that it was all because of some dude somewhere talking about redirecting traffic.

by San Lumen » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:57 pm
Shofercia wrote:
They're talking about the job that he's doing, not Trump's personality. And that's just one of the disconnects between the DNC and the voters. Most voters will vote for or against Trump based on the job that he's doing, rather than his personality, whereas for the DNC it seems to be all about his personality. One of my independent colleagues said something like this:
"Trump's a fucking bitch-ass-whore; that said, Obama cost me money, and Trump's making me money. Politics is bullshit, so I vote with my wallet!"
And I doubt that most independents think differently.

by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:01 pm
Shofercia wrote:
They're talking about the job that he's doing, not Trump's personality. And that's just one of the disconnects between the DNC and the voters. Most voters will vote for or against Trump based on the job that he's doing, rather than his personality, whereas for the DNC it seems to be all about his personality. One of my independent colleagues said something like this:
"Trump's a fucking bitch-ass-whore; that said, Obama cost me money, and Trump's making me money. Politics is bullshit, so I vote with my wallet!"
And I doubt that most independents think differently.
by Shofercia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:01 pm
San Lumen wrote:Shofercia wrote:
They're talking about the job that he's doing, not Trump's personality. And that's just one of the disconnects between the DNC and the voters. Most voters will vote for or against Trump based on the job that he's doing, rather than his personality, whereas for the DNC it seems to be all about his personality. One of my independent colleagues said something like this:
"Trump's a fucking bitch-ass-whore; that said, Obama cost me money, and Trump's making me money. Politics is bullshit, so I vote with my wallet!"
And I doubt that most independents think differently.
yet every other poll shows him in thirties for an approval rating.
RCP Average 2/9 - 2/22 -- 42.2
Marist 2/20 - 2/21 40
Rasmussen Reports 2/20 - 2/22 50
Economist/YouGov 2/18 - 2/20 44
Reuters/Ipsos 2/16 - 2/20 40
Harvard-Harris 2/16 - 2/19 45
Quinnipiac 2/16 - 2/19 37
Gallup 2/12 - 2/18 37
FOX News 2/10 - 2/13 43
PPP (D) 2/9 - 2/11 44
by Shofercia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:05 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Shofercia wrote:
They're talking about the job that he's doing, not Trump's personality. And that's just one of the disconnects between the DNC and the voters. Most voters will vote for or against Trump based on the job that he's doing, rather than his personality, whereas for the DNC it seems to be all about his personality. One of my independent colleagues said something like this:
"Trump's a fucking bitch-ass-whore; that said, Obama cost me money, and Trump's making me money. Politics is bullshit, so I vote with my wallet!"
And I doubt that most independents think differently.
There's a lot of truth here, this pretty much sums up every non-political person I know.

by San Lumen » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:10 pm
Shofercia wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's a lot of truth here, this pretty much sums up every non-political person I know.
I asked numerous people that I work with, what they thought about the Nunes Memo. Most were honest enough to admit that they had no clue, while most of the rest told me about their stance on the memo's impact of illegal immigration. Maybe around 10%-15% actually knew what it was.
We spent the day discussing Kylie Jenner instead, and her $1.3 billion tweet: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-twee ... 39000.html
Trump succeeded in making politics personal, and the DNC focused on annihilating his personality, which they did. But when the voters head to the ballot box in November, none of that will matter.

by Fartsniffage » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:11 pm
San Lumen wrote:Shofercia wrote:
I asked numerous people that I work with, what they thought about the Nunes Memo. Most were honest enough to admit that they had no clue, while most of the rest told me about their stance on the memo's impact of illegal immigration. Maybe around 10%-15% actually knew what it was.
We spent the day discussing Kylie Jenner instead, and her $1.3 billion tweet: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-twee ... 39000.html
Trump succeeded in making politics personal, and the DNC focused on annihilating his personality, which they did. But when the voters head to the ballot box in November, none of that will matter.
If it getting some pocket change is all that matters to people and in turn they vote in another Republican congress then this country is truly lost.

by Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:33 pm
Shofercia wrote:San Lumen wrote:yet every other poll shows him in thirties for an approval rating.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.htmlRCP Average 2/9 - 2/22 -- 42.2
Marist 2/20 - 2/21 40
Rasmussen Reports 2/20 - 2/22 50
Economist/YouGov 2/18 - 2/20 44
Reuters/Ipsos 2/16 - 2/20 40
Harvard-Harris 2/16 - 2/19 45
Quinnipiac 2/16 - 2/19 37
Gallup 2/12 - 2/18 37
FOX News 2/10 - 2/13 43
PPP (D) 2/9 - 2/11 44
You sure about that?

by Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:35 pm
San Lumen wrote:Shofercia wrote:
I asked numerous people that I work with, what they thought about the Nunes Memo. Most were honest enough to admit that they had no clue, while most of the rest told me about their stance on the memo's impact of illegal immigration. Maybe around 10%-15% actually knew what it was.
We spent the day discussing Kylie Jenner instead, and her $1.3 billion tweet: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-twee ... 39000.html
Trump succeeded in making politics personal, and the DNC focused on annihilating his personality, which they did. But when the voters head to the ballot box in November, none of that will matter.
If it getting some pocket change is all that matters to people and in turn they vote in another Republican congress then this country is truly lost. Maybe one day when all the bees are gone from bee killing pesticides and there is no food to eat they will think about what they did all those years ago and regret it but by then it will be too late.

by Freezic Vast » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:46 pm
San Lumen wrote:Shofercia wrote:
I asked numerous people that I work with, what they thought about the Nunes Memo. Most were honest enough to admit that they had no clue, while most of the rest told me about their stance on the memo's impact of illegal immigration. Maybe around 10%-15% actually knew what it was.
We spent the day discussing Kylie Jenner instead, and her $1.3 billion tweet: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-twee ... 39000.html
Trump succeeded in making politics personal, and the DNC focused on annihilating his personality, which they did. But when the voters head to the ballot box in November, none of that will matter.
If it getting some pocket change is all that matters to people and in turn they vote in another Republican congress then this country is truly lost. Maybe one day when all the bees are gone from bee killing pesticides and there is no food to eat they will think about what they did all those years ago and regret it but by then it will be too late.

by Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:49 pm
Freezic Vast wrote:San Lumen wrote:If it getting some pocket change is all that matters to people and in turn they vote in another Republican congress then this country is truly lost. Maybe one day when all the bees are gone from bee killing pesticides and there is no food to eat they will think about what they did all those years ago and regret it but by then it will be too late.
Do you and Flutters have to keep with these ridiculous hyperbole about how this country is being destroyed by Republicans? People said the same about Obama and nothing happened, and you are just using the same useless scare-mongering tactics that the Republican party is some evil virus of Satan and that a massive blue wave is coming.

by Freezic Vast » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:51 pm
Kramanica wrote:Freezic Vast wrote:Do you and Flutters have to keep with these ridiculous hyperbole about how this country is being destroyed by Republicans? People said the same about Obama and nothing happened, and you are just using the same useless scare-mongering tactics that the Republican party is some evil virus of Satan and that a massive blue wave is coming.
I've been keeping track of San Lumen's apocalypse scenarios. They go like this:
- Trump will get us into a nuclear war and kill us all
- Republicans will kill us all with climate change
- Republicans will kill all the bees and then kill us all

by Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:52 pm
Freezic Vast wrote:Kramanica wrote:I've been keeping track of San Lumen's apocalypse scenarios. They go like this:
- Trump will get us into a nuclear war and kill us all
- Republicans will kill us all with climate change
- Republicans will kill all the bees and then kill us all
So about the same kind of fear-mongering/fake apocalyptic scenarios that the mainstream media and people like Lumen and Flutters go on and on about that'll never happen?

by Hayo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:12 pm
Shofercia wrote:San Lumen wrote:yet every other poll shows him in thirties for an approval rating.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.htmlRCP Average 2/9 - 2/22 -- 42.2
Marist 2/20 - 2/21 40
Rasmussen Reports 2/20 - 2/22 50
Economist/YouGov 2/18 - 2/20 44
Reuters/Ipsos 2/16 - 2/20 40
Harvard-Harris 2/16 - 2/19 45
Quinnipiac 2/16 - 2/19 37
Gallup 2/12 - 2/18 37
FOX News 2/10 - 2/13 43
PPP (D) 2/9 - 2/11 44
You sure about that?
by Shofercia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:42 pm
San Lumen wrote:Shofercia wrote:
I asked numerous people that I work with, what they thought about the Nunes Memo. Most were honest enough to admit that they had no clue, while most of the rest told me about their stance on the memo's impact of illegal immigration. Maybe around 10%-15% actually knew what it was.
We spent the day discussing Kylie Jenner instead, and her $1.3 billion tweet: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-twee ... 39000.html
Trump succeeded in making politics personal, and the DNC focused on annihilating his personality, which they did. But when the voters head to the ballot box in November, none of that will matter.
If it getting some pocket change is all that matters to people and in turn they vote in another Republican congress then this country is truly lost. Maybe one day when all the bees are gone from bee killing pesticides and there is no food to eat they will think about what they did all those years ago and regret it but by then it will be too late.
Kramanica wrote:San Lumen wrote:If it getting some pocket change is all that matters to people and in turn they vote in another Republican congress then this country is truly lost. Maybe one day when all the bees are gone from bee killing pesticides and there is no food to eat they will think about what they did all those years ago and regret it but by then it will be too late.
How many apocalyptic scenarios do you have?
Hayo wrote:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/
This is another good resource. They're pretty similar, usually a tad lower than RCP, since they weight the polls based on their performance and reliability. That allows them to add in a lot more polls into their sample without polluting the results too much.

by Valrifell » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:17 pm
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