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Postby Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:06 am

Eibenland wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Only one of those things you listed is actually a constitutional right. And if you can require people to have ID to buy guns then you can require them to have ID to vote. Both are rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

Where'd this come from anyway? The HuffPo? Salon? You never actually provide links. Disappointing.

The second and fourth are also constitutional rights. You can't arbitrarily ignore rights.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:07 am

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Its called the 14th amendment.

Do... do you even know what the 14th Amendment is?


So how does permitting discrimination not violate a person's right to equal protection under the law?
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Postby Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:10 am

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Kramanica wrote:Do... do you even know what the 14th Amendment is?


So how does permitting discrimination not violate a person's right to equal protection under the law?

1. Marriage is not a legal right.
2. Up until quite recently marriage was defined as a union between a man and a woman.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:19 am

Kramanica wrote:
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So how does permitting discrimination not violate a person's right to equal protection under the law?

1. Marriage is not a legal right.
2. Up until quite recently marriage was defined as a union between a man and a woman.

1&2: ...What The fuck do you mean it is not a legal right? Did two big supreme court cases never happened? :eyebrow:
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:43 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Kramanica wrote:1. Marriage is not a legal right.
2. Up until quite recently marriage was defined as a union between a man and a woman.

1&2: ...What The fuck do you mean it is not a legal right? Did two big supreme court cases never happened? :eyebrow:

Technically, it isn't a legal right. What you do have a right to is equal treatment under the law. In the case of marriage, that means that the states may not bar consenting adults of whatever gender combinations from being married. In other words, the states may not create two classes of citizens, one of which is entitled to get married and the other, which is not. As for the definition, not long ago a voter was defined as someone over 21. Before that, a voter was someone over 21 who was male, and so on. Definitions change. There's nothing to say we have to be happy with the changes but definitions do change.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:54 am

Rick Gates is currently in a Federal Courthouse in DC. He is expected to walk out having pleaded guilty to federal charges in the Russia Investigation.
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:01 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how does permitting discrimination not violate a person's right to equal protection under the law?

1. Marriage is not a legal right.
2. Up until quite recently marriage was defined as a union between a man and a woman.


As was said, you have a legal right to be treated equally under the law. As it turns out, there are laws pertaining to marriage. Ergo, you have a legal right to being treated equally under marriage laws.


It's pretty damn simple.

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Postby Berdan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:41 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how does permitting discrimination not violate a person's right to equal protection under the law?

1. Marriage is not a legal right.
2. Up until quite recently marriage was defined as a union between a man and a woman.

And this is no longer the case, and citizens are guarenteed equal rights under american laws.

Even without this, do you really need a line in the constitution just to say "Ey dont be oppressive"
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:46 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how does permitting discrimination not violate a person's right to equal protection under the law?

1. Marriage is not a legal right.
2. Up until quite recently marriage was defined as a union between a man and a woman.

And before that it could involve a man, his wife, his concubines, and his slaves.
It has been changed before so pointing to a tradition definition is pointless.

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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:44 pm

A woman driving a vehicle rammed into a security barrier near the White House and has been immediately apprehended by security.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:A woman driving a vehicle rammed into a security barrier near the White House and has been immediately apprehended by security.

Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A woman driving a vehicle rammed into a security barrier near the White House and has been immediately apprehended by security.

Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident


I thought we were supposed to assume RTAs like that are terrorism until proven otherwise.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A woman driving a vehicle rammed into a security barrier near the White House and has been immediately apprehended by security.

Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident

It wasn't she did it intentionally, but we don't know what her motives are yet. I just turned on to the news channels and I saw breaking news of a woman who intentionally rammed her car into a security barrier.
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Postby Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:47 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A woman driving a vehicle rammed into a security barrier near the White House and has been immediately apprehended by security.

Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident

Oh yeah, about as accidental as other recent instances of vehicle ramming.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:48 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A woman driving a vehicle rammed into a security barrier near the White House and has been immediately apprehended by security.

Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident


Probably is, people get confused down there anyhow because of the street layout. It was a woman in the car which means it's less likely this is something nefarious.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident

It wasn't she did it intentionally, but we don't know what her motives are yet. I just turned on to the news channels and I saw breaking news of a woman who intentionally rammed her car into a security barrier.

Damn
Don’t know what she thought she was gonna do though
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Jesus
Hopefully it’s an accident


Probably is, people get confused down there anyhow because of the street layout. It was a woman in the car which means it's less likely this is something nefarious.

-_- you just had to make a woman driving joke
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Postby Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:It was a woman in the car which means it's less likely this is something nefarious.

lol what the fuck
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:51 pm

Luckily there was no shots fired like what happened 5 years ago, that's one plus.
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Postby Kramanica » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:Luckily there was no shots fired like what happened 5 years ago, that's one plus.

I'm not seeing any reporting about it online.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:54 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:It wasn't she did it intentionally, but we don't know what her motives are yet. I just turned on to the news channels and I saw breaking news of a woman who intentionally rammed her car into a security barrier.

Damn
Don’t know what she thought she was gonna do though


I've been down there many times over the years. Even before 9/11 it's a confusing area to drive through.
A lot of curious people drive down there for the novelty, It's an unfamiliar and difficult area, They are looking around and at the same time driving. They just screw up making a U-turn and crash into a barrier or something in most of these incidents.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:54 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Luckily there was no shots fired like what happened 5 years ago, that's one plus.

I'm not seeing any reporting about it online.

It's on cable news networks, that's what I'm watching.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:55 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I'm not seeing any reporting about it online.

It's on cable news networks, that's what I'm watching.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43177427
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Damn
Don’t know what she thought she was gonna do though


I've been down there many times over the years. Even before 9/11 it's a confusing area to drive through.
A lot of curious people drive down there for the novelty, It's an unfamiliar and difficult area, They are looking around and at the same time driving. They just screw up making a U-turn and crash into a barrier or something in most of these incidents.

I grew up in DC. I know
But according to the poster it was intentional so until I see a more elaborate source I believe that
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:58 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:It was a woman in the car which means it's less likely this is something nefarious.

lol what the fuck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime

Maybe take a course in Criminology.
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