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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm

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I'm not saying I disagree with him, just curious about his about turn and curioser as to whether it will last more than a few days. He seems to have some hump with the NRA for some reason. I assume someone said they got him elected and that offended him to the core because, in his narrative, the only person who got Trump elected was Trump and anyone who questions that gets full Trump treatment.

Tbh, Reagan himself signed an assault weapon ban.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm

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Because you find a skin color unacceptable?

I never said anything of the sort.


You just did :^]

Not to mention your various tirades about how white people are out to get you.

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Postby Kramanica » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm

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Kramanica wrote:I wonder if Schumer will resign and support a "person of color" for his position.

Thats a stupid comment.

Why? He feels the US government needs to be more diverse to better represent America. He should start by resigning and supporting a black or Hispanic woman for his post.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm

Kramanica wrote:Apparently one of Trump's district court nominees is too white for Chuck Schumer.

What right-wing rag is this? If Schumer actually did this, then I don't agree with it. I can't confirm that it actually happened from a more reliable news source, however.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Enlighten us.

hes nominated more white men that any other president in a generation.

That hasn't proven any of your assertions.
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Postby Kramanica » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Enlighten us.

hes nominated more white men that any other president in a generation.

Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?
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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Enlighten us.

hes nominated more white men that any other president in a generation.


And what color the nominees are and what genitalia is in their pants is relevant how?
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Postby Kramanica » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:59 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Apparently one of Trump's district court nominees is too white for Chuck Schumer.

What right-wing rag is this? If Schumer actually did this, then I don't agree with it. I can't confirm that it actually happened from a more reliable news source, however.

There's literally a video of it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:59 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Senkaku wrote:...I think the idea would be that it has a door that you can lock...?


Really? It's ideological fortitude for a conservative GOP president to, in the face of public outrage after a shooting, change tack and embrace a distinctly Democratic-seeming position? You're intentionally changing what I said- maybe it takes some sort of fortitude to be able to say those things to his own party (frankly, I suspect he was just too stupid to realize it might piss them off that he doesn't agree with them all of a sudden), but it displays very little fortitude in his beliefs on gun control, as it's literally been just days since he was talking about arming teachers and agreeing that gun control of any type isn't the solution.


My issue is the part where you said he is a paleocon- no, he isn't. He may be aligned with paleocons (or maybe just you) at this particular moment in time, but don't make the mistake of ascribing any serious political philosophy or awareness to him beyond the incoherent jumble of phobias and obsessions that he's been carrying around his entire life.

Yeah, but given your lack of concern for stuff like foreign aid or welfare or medical insurance programs, you only care about moral purpose insofar as it allows you to judge people and deem them worthy of being condemned to unpleasant fates, so I don't think anyone gives a rat's ass. The rest of your "moral purpose" (all the sex stuff or whatever) has been dead or dying for years (thank God), Trump isn't somehow starting it.

A lot of United States "foreign aid" is buying guns for other countries. Moreover, much of it that isn't that, is giving money to shitty governments and telling them to help their people; yeah, sure, that makes sense.

I strongly support a public medical plan, but the Tenth Amendment means that is 100% a state concern, not a Federal concern. I also support constructive welfare; giving broken families more money than families that stick together, is not constructive welfare. Nixon had the right idea with his Family Assistance Plan.


"Foreign aid"

I suppose the Egyptians must like their new tanks tbh.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Enlighten us.

hes nominated more white men that any other president in a generation.

I don't know what you mean by this, but I'll interpret this as you demanding a "white meter" system. Does this mean people like me, vampire level pale, are at max?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:00 pm

Kramanica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:hes nominated more white men that any other president in a generation.

Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?

So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.

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Postby West Leas Oros » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:00 pm

Kramanica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:hes nominated more white men that any other president in a generation.

Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?

This is the point that San Lumen wants to ignore.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?

So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.


Yes, unlike you we aren't racists.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:00 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:A lot of United States "foreign aid" is buying guns for other countries. Moreover, much of it that isn't that, is giving money to shitty governments and telling them to help their people; yeah, sure, that makes sense.

I strongly support a public medical plan, but the Tenth Amendment means that is 100% a state concern, not a Federal concern. I also support constructive welfare; giving broken families more money than families that stick together, is not constructive welfare. Nixon had the right idea with his Family Assistance Plan.


"Foreign aid"

I suppose the Egyptians must like their new tanks tbh.

Well Obama tried cutting them off, or at least down to size, before, saying they had to make changes. But they didn't care, so we gave back the aid. Oh well.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.


Yes, unlike you we aren't racists.

Im not a racist. Trump is.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, unlike you we aren't racists.

Im not a racist. Trump is.


You're both at about the same level tbh
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Postby Kramanica » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?

So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.

I wouldn't care. I only care if they're qualified.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?

So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.

If qualified, yes. Merits more important than skin.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, unlike you we aren't racists.

Im not a racist. Trump is.

:lol2:
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:02 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im not a racist. Trump is.


You're both at about the same level tbh


I dont think any country is a shithole and that we should have a discriminatory immigration system and that we should be regressing on equal rights which is what he believes. So by no means am I a racist.

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Postby West Leas Oros » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:02 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.

If qualified, yes. Merits more important than skin.

Not according to San Lumen
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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, unlike you we aren't racists.

Im not a racist. Trump is.


So then explain why skin color matters?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You're both at about the same level tbh


I dont think any country is a shithole and that we should have a discriminatory immigration system and that we should be regressing on equal rights which is what he believes. So by no means am I a racist.


But you do hate those evil white people.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Really? In a generation? I'm gonna need some sauce.

And even if he did what does it matter? If they're qualified then who fucking cares?

So if he nominated an all white male cabinet you be indifferent.

If they're all qualified, of course. Unlike you, I'm not a racist :^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, unlike you we aren't racists.

Im not a racist. Trump is.

Well I don't blame you, not everyone can have principles.
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