Trump MAGAThread XI: Button, Button, Who's Got The Button?

[Camicon]

You think this is angry and defensive?

Kind of, yeah. You seem quite angered by me providing you with exactly what you asked for.

Except that I'm not, and you didn't.

Never said you attacked them, said that you didn't protest when other people did. Unlike you're doing with Trump's kids now. You're applying different standards because of your political leanings.

How do you know I didn't? I've always considered attacking a president's kids to be reprehensible. Would you please keep the goalposts in line. You asked for any example of Tiffany Trump being attacked and I provided it. Now you've gone completely haywire in some desperate attempt to clutch at any hint of hypocrisy you can find when there is none.

Just admit you were wrong and we can go on our merry way, m'kay?

Throwaway jokes by anonymous NSG denizens are not "attacks" in any meaningful way. But go ahead and pretend they are, if it helps you reconcile some of Trump's inexcusable behaviour. I won't judge. Much.

[Kramanica]

Kind of, yeah. You seem quite angered by me providing you with exactly what you asked for.

Except that I'm not, and you didn't.

Keep denying things that happened not that long ago.

How do you know I didn't? I've always considered attacking a president's kids to be reprehensible. Would you please keep the goalposts in line. You asked for any example of Tiffany Trump being attacked and I provided it. Now you've gone completely haywire in some desperate attempt to clutch at any hint of hypocrisy you can find when there is none.

Just admit you were wrong and we can go on our merry way, m'kay?

Throwaway jokes by anonymous NSG denizens are not "attacks" in any meaningful way. But go ahead and pretend they are, if it helps you reconcile some of Trump's inexcusable behaviour. I won't judge. Much.

Good god, the goalposts. You asked for an example of her being attacked. I provided one. You didn't stipulate that it had to be from someone outside of NSG, and it also doesn't have anything to do with Trump's behavior. I really don't understand why you are incapable of staying focused on any single topic. It's kind of amusing, tbh.

[Jerzylvania]

He probably is too since he said his school was open today. Maybe that's why. As for Barron, that's where I draw the line. Leave him be.

School. As in college.

Gerald Ford was POTUS when I graduated. BTW, he never cheated on Betty. Nor was he ever elected by more than the voters in the district of Grand Rapids MI.

Make the most of the college. Dual majors if you can.

What state are you schooling at?

[Kramanica]

School. As in college.

Gerald Ford was POTUS when I graduated. BTW, he never cheated on Betty. Nor was he ever elected by more than the voters in the district of Grand Rapids MI.

Make the most of the college. Dual majors if you can.

What state are you schooling at?

NJ.

[Gravlen]

Something more than a 38-minute photo-op?

Such as?

Spend a full hour with the victims? Perhaps even two? Going to the school, pretending to be W. at ground zero? Suggesting new policy, for example on guns, school safety, or healthcare? Act presidential? Actually be respectful?

Or, as how Trump would express himself:
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Oh no, I hope that was the correct picture, a "Trump approves of this"-Trump-picture and not another "I'm so sad children were killed in a school shooting"-respectful-Trump picture.

He's trying to give an air of positivity, which I can understand.

Well, I guess it's nice to run into someone who can understand complete tone-deafness and lack of empathy.

[Aethal]

Probably is a bit of a meme, but I'm not sure what else to say to someone who believes that some of the most fervent defenders of the Second Amendment actually want to disarm people in order to oppress The Proletariat™ or some such.

Did you know that NeoCons have a history of bouncing between electoral tickets and parties to suit their exactly singular, monetarily driven geopolitical aims? The Clintons, The Bushes, LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, ect all fit said same singular demographic slot of money driven, truly bipartisan extra-political organizations driven by Super-Pacs and other such drivel.

Now, with that said, I do vote Republican because there isn't an "Imperialistic Expansionist Republic" party & we haven't had a good William Walker (The fellow with the Mercenary Army during the 1800s) around to help balance out US territorial aims or external geopolitical goals in close to a century and them. The GOP is probably what you meant by "More Ardent 2A defenders". Now, with that out of the way, you are aware that "Proletarian" is effectively a modern incarnation of the original term "Plebians" as-used by the Romans to denote an open ended descriptor of the "Common Man"? It's singularly & solely used in proper vernacular by Marx's ideological progeny.

[Camicon]

Except that I'm not, and you didn't.

Keep denying things that happened not that long ago.

Sure is easier to state you did something than it is to actually do it, eh?

Throwaway jokes by anonymous NSG denizens are not "attacks" in any meaningful way. But go ahead and pretend they are, if it helps you reconcile some of Trump's inexcusable behaviour. I won't judge. Much.

Good god, the goalposts. You asked for an example of her being attacked. I provided one. You didn't stipulate that it had to be from someone outside of NSG, and it also doesn't have anything to do with Trump's behavior. I really don't understand why you are incapable of staying focused on any single topic. It's kind of amusing, tbh.

I don't know why you're having so much trouble understanding that off-the-cuff comments by randos on NS are not "attacks". If you consider such as "attacks", then you have to consider virtually any kind of negative comment an "attack"; the word becomes meaningless. Reserve it for when it is actually required to denote commentary that is vitriolic and potentially harmful.

[Jerzylvania]

Gerald Ford was POTUS when I graduated. BTW, he never cheated on Betty. Nor was he ever elected by more than the voters in the district of Grand Rapids MI.

Make the most of the college. Dual majors if you can.

What state are you schooling at?

NJ.

*smiles* How apropos. FDU?

New governor over there. Notice this is page 420.

[Kramanica]

Such as?

Spend a full hour with the victims? Perhaps even two? Going to the school, pretending to be W. at ground zero? Suggesting new policy, for example on guns, school safety, or healthcare? Act presidential? Actually be respectful?

Except he did meet with the victims.

And I hate to break this to you but this school shooting, while terrible, was not 9/11 where 2,000 Americans died and our symbol of economic power was attacked.

Also, it is funny that you whine about tone-deafness but somehow see nothing wrong with using a massacre as a platform to broadcast new policy proposals.

He's trying to give an air of positivity, which I can understand.

Well, I guess it's nice to run into someone who can understand complete tone-deafness and lack of empathy.

Your cheap shot is noted.

[Kramanica]

NJ.

*smiles* How apropos. FDU?

New governor over there. Notice this is page 420.

lol

It's a good university. Don't wanna give the name of it on NSG.

[Gravlen]

Talking like they're still minors, good one.

He probably is too since he said his school was open today. Maybe that's why. As for Barron, that's where I draw the line. Leave him be.

No! Indict him! He's an assho-

...wait, you did say Bannon, right?

[Gravlen]

38 minutes, was it? Including time for the smiling thumbs-up photo-op? Before speeding away to Mar-a-Lago and spending three days there?

And are you mistaken?


A picture often says more than a thousand words.

Trump could stay at the hospital for two hours and would still get flack for it, as would Obama. I think it's come down to the fact that nobody wants to even take time to grieve anymore, they just want to get down to the guns. Keep them or take them, keep them or take them, ad nauseum until the world ends. The one issue that brings-out the worst in basically everyone.

Possibly.

Though had he not given a smiling thumbs up and claimed that he watched TV out of respect for the victims, I would not have said anything.

[Valrifell]

38 minutes, was it? Including time for the smiling thumbs-up photo-op? Before speeding away to Mar-a-Lago and spending three days there?

And are you mistaken?


A picture often says more than a thousand words.

Trump could stay at the hospital for two hours and would still get flack for it, as would Obama. I think it's come down to the fact that nobody wants to even take time to grieve anymore, they just want to get down to the guns. Keep them or take them, keep them or take them, ad nauseum until the world ends. The one issue that brings-out the worst in basically everyone.

People are understandably tired of meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises. Results would be nice.

[Kramanica]

Trump could stay at the hospital for two hours and would still get flack for it, as would Obama. I think it's come down to the fact that nobody wants to even take time to grieve anymore, they just want to get down to the guns. Keep them or take them, keep them or take them, ad nauseum until the world ends. The one issue that brings-out the worst in basically everyone.

People are understandably tired of meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises. Results would be nice.

For that, Congress would be needed. The president can't do a whole lot. People are directing anger at the wrong branch of government.

[Jerzylvania]

*smiles* How apropos. FDU?

New governor over there. Notice this is page 420.

lol

It's a good university. Don't wanna give the name of it on NSG.

Sure. Harold and Kumar might come track you down, lol.
Well, it ain't Princeton or Rutgers. They are great universities. I went to a private college in MD which the CIA actively recruited from. Spooks all over the damn place.

[Kramanica]

lol

It's a good university. Don't wanna give the name of it on NSG.

Sure. Harold and Kumar might come track you down, lol.
Well, it ain't Princeton or Rutgers. They are great universities. I went to a private college in MD which the CIA actively recruited from. Spooks all over the damn place.

Yes, they are. Truthfully I wouldn't mind working for the CIA. Toppling a few governments would be fun.

[Valrifell]

People are understandably tired of meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises. Results would be nice.

For that, Congress would be needed. The president can't do a whole lot. People are directing anger at the wrong branch of government.

No, the body as a whole is wildly unpopular. The parts that make it up are still well-received by their constituents.

So the blame needs to be directed at a less-abstract entity, like the actual Representative or Senator.

[Proctopeo]

Trump could stay at the hospital for two hours and would still get flack for it, as would Obama. I think it's come down to the fact that nobody wants to even take time to grieve anymore, they just want to get down to the guns. Keep them or take them, keep them or take them, ad nauseum until the world ends. The one issue that brings-out the worst in basically everyone.

People are understandably tired of meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises. Results would be nice.

Nobody can agree on anything, so no results will happen, so we get more meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises.

[Jerzylvania]

He probably is too since he said his school was open today. Maybe that's why. As for Barron, that's where I draw the line. Leave him be.

No! Indict him! He's an assho-

...wait, you did say Bannon, right?

Nope, not me. That was some other vague poster's fuck up.

The name I confuse with Barron's is Wolfgang. lmao.

[Valrifell]

People are understandably tired of meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises. Results would be nice.

Nobody can agree on anything, so no results will happen, so we get more meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises.

Resignation to the inevitability of nothing happening isn't a way to get something to happen.

[Kramanica]

For that, Congress would be needed. The president can't do a whole lot. People are directing anger at the wrong branch of government.

No, the body as a whole is wildly unpopular. The parts that make it up are still well-received by their constituents.

Yeah, that is something I've always found odd...

So the blame needs to be directed at a less-abstract entity, like the actual Representative or Senator.

I have your man.

[Proctopeo]

Nobody can agree on anything, so no results will happen, so we get more meaningless rhetoric, thoughts & prayers, and empty promises.

Resignation to the inevitability of nothing happening isn't a way to get something to happen.

Acknowledging the inevitability of nothing happening is a good way to get peace of mind, however.

[Jerzylvania]

Sure. Harold and Kumar might come track you down, lol.
Well, it ain't Princeton or Rutgers. They are great universities. I went to a private college in MD which the CIA actively recruited from. Spooks all over the damn place.

Yes, they are. Truthfully I wouldn't mind working for the CIA. Toppling a few governments would be fun.

So... moving on.... what's with this Black Sun flag of yours? I take it that's not a sign of your devotion to a certain Death Cab tune.

[Gravlen]

Spend a full hour with the victims? Perhaps even two? Going to the school, pretending to be W. at ground zero? Suggesting new policy, for example on guns, school safety, or healthcare? Act presidential? Actually be respectful?

Except he did meet with the victims.

I know. A hint might be that I'm criticising him for spending too little time with the victims, not that he didn't meet the victims.

And I hate to break this to you but this school shooting, while terrible, was not 9/11 where 2,000 Americans died and our symbol of economic power was attacked.

And?

Are you suggesting that he just dropped in because it was on the way to Mar-a-Lago?

Also, it is funny that you whine about tone-deafness but somehow see nothing wrong with using a massacre as a platform to broadcast new policy proposals.

Because of course it isn't?

"My God, the entire house burned down!"
"I promise to work for better fire safety at homes. I would suggest-"
"How DARE you suggest policy to improve the fire safety of homes?!"

...said no one ever.

This idea that we can't suggest changes to policy before a certain time has passed is misguided at best (but more likely just a comfortable refuge for those who really doesn't want to change the status quo).

Your cheap shot is noted.

There's a time and place for everything. An air of positivity and "gosh, they set records, and if I were the police I'd lie about how dangerous the arrest was" is simply not suitable for that occasion.

[Petrasylvania]

Something more than a 38-minute photo-op?


Or, as how Trump would express himself:


Oh no, I hope that was the correct picture, a "Trump approves of this"-Trump-picture and not another "I'm so sad children were killed in a school shooting"-respectful-Trump picture.

TBF I don't really care about the shooting either. The cycle of finger-pointing gets exhausting.

Shootings should be relegated to weather or traffic reports. *nod*