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Postby Uxupox » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:22 pm

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Didn't know that in the manuals of the armed forces of the Western militaries they have included specified guidelines into raping and how to conduct massacres.

It's what's happening in Myanmar and nobody's bombing them.


That country has no strategic importance for anybody tbh.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:25 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:It's what's happening in Myanmar and nobody's bombing them.


That country has no strategic importance for anybody tbh.

And Serbia had one? So you're saying ethnic cleansing and genocide is acceptable if your country has no value to the West.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:25 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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That country has no strategic importance for anybody tbh.

And Serbia had one? So you're saying ethnic cleansing and genocide is acceptable if your country has no value to the West.


So you are saying you are putting words in my mouth? Is that what I hear correctly?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And Serbia had one? So you're saying ethnic cleansing and genocide is acceptable if your country has no value to the West.


So you are saying you are putting words in my mouth? Is that what I hear correctly?

When you casually dismiss the Rohingya genocide with a line about strategic value...
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Uxupox » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:30 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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So you are saying you are putting words in my mouth? Is that what I hear correctly?

When you casually dismiss the Rohingya genocide with a line about strategic value...


Does that mean I support genocide or ethnic cleansing by stating a factual discourse of foreign intervention?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:32 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:When you casually dismiss the Rohingya genocide with a line about strategic value...


Does that mean I support genocide or ethnic cleansing by stating a factual discourse of foreign intervention?

It makes you sound indifferent at best.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Uxupox » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:40 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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Does that mean I support genocide or ethnic cleansing by stating a factual discourse of foreign intervention?

It makes you sound indifferent at best.


Not at all. Stating a factor of military intervention does not mean I support, am indifferent or against anything.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:41 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:It makes you sound indifferent at best.


Not at all. Stating a factor of military intervention does not mean I support, am indifferent or against anything.

So what's the difference between Serbia and Myanmar?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Uxupox » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:48 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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Not at all. Stating a factor of military intervention does not mean I support, am indifferent or against anything.

So what's the difference between Serbia and Myanmar?


This is a good read.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:27 pm

Yeesh. Such hysteria from CNN (e.g. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon). I wouldn't have said it that way, but yes, Haiti is pretty much a shithole of a country (it took them until the 21st century to make rape illegal), and that has nothing to do with race.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:28 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Yeesh. Such hysteria from CNN (e.g. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon). I wouldn't have said it that way, but yes, Haiti is pretty much a shithole of a country (it took them until the 21st century to make rape illegal), and that has nothing to do with race.

Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Yeesh. Such hysteria from CNN (e.g. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon). I wouldn't have said it that way, but yes, Haiti is pretty much a shithole of a country (it took them until the 21st century to make rape illegal), and that has nothing to do with race.

Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.


Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Yeesh. Such hysteria from CNN (e.g. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon). I wouldn't have said it that way, but yes, Haiti is pretty much a shithole of a country (it took them until the 21st century to make rape illegal), and that has nothing to do with race.

Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.

Being right doesn't make you racist, nor do the men you appoint.
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Postby Novowarsawianka » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:34 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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If the Serbians decided not to hold massacres, rapes, and destruction of a particular ethnoreligious group different then theirs maybe they wouldn't gotten bombed.

If the Serbs had done it in the 21st century they could have called it fighting Islamic terrorism and have been applauded for it.


We are talking about the 1999 War in Kosovo yes? I do recall Kosovo banning muslim prayer calls, but I am not 100% certain. Be it as it may, the average Albanian is not really a religious person. In fact, the most prominent Kosovar nationalist politicans, Ramush Haradinay (a man wanted by Serbia for a trial on war crimes), seems not to be a fan of islam at all, or at least believes it unneccessary for Albanian nationhood.

The intervention against Belgrade then was to prevent the scenario of the 1991-1995 war, this time in Kosovo. If it happened today not back then, the west would have still supported it, because Albanians are rather pro-western in general (they do have statues of Clinton and Bush to show for it).

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Uxupox wrote:
Didn't know that in the manuals of the armed forces of the Western militaries they have included specified guidelines into raping and how to conduct massacres.

It's what's happening in Myanmar and nobody's bombing them.


Not really comparable. Europe will always be a bigger concern for the West than that part of Asia. Not to forget, it was a different kind of conflict, since you had independent countries fighting each other there, not just the government going against civilians like in Burma.
It was vital for the west to reintegrate the Balkans into it after the end of communist oppression. It can also be seen as a try to limit Russian influence in the area as well.

No matter how you put it, the intervention against Serbia is strategically not comparable to Myanmar. This is not to inslut the loss of human life there, just saying how it is realistically.

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Postby Clintonburge » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:35 pm

Watching all the turmoil in #45's first term, I can't fathom the chaos with him having a second one. There is no way he'll run again.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:40 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.


Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?

The manbaby has a history of being sued by the Justice Department for refusing to lease apartments to African Americans. If that's not racist then nothing short of a recording with Trump spewing racism like Stormfront or 4chan will prove him racist.
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The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:42 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?

The manbaby has a history of being sued by the Justice Department for refusing to lease apartments to African Americans. If that's not racist then nothing short of a recording with Trump spewing racism like Stormfront or 4chan will prove him racist.


Ok, but what does that have to do with Haiti?
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Postby Clintonburge » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:43 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.


Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?


His comment along with his history of negative comments against non-white people show that #45 is a bigot, plain and simple.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:44 pm

Clintonburge wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?


His comment along with his history of negative comments against non-white people show that #45 is a bigot, plain and simple.


Ok, so what exactly about that specific comment is racist? I have yet to hear an explanation.
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Postby Novowarsawianka » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Yeesh. Such hysteria from CNN (e.g. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon). I wouldn't have said it that way, but yes, Haiti is pretty much a shithole of a country (it took them until the 21st century to make rape illegal), and that has nothing to do with race.

Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.


He told it as it is, those countries are what he called them, plus many others. How is that racism? It is racist to deny it actually. Do you know what Haiti or any African country is like? Or most of the Central American ones? Or some of the South American ones?
The people there deserve better, trying to put those countries as "okay" is horrible. We must face the truth and so must they in order to change for their own good.

I am not against immigration from those countries though, as long as the system of immigration is merit based. The intelligent people of those countries at least deserve far better.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:46 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?

The manbaby has a history of being sued by the Justice Department for refusing to lease apartments to African Americans. If that's not racist then nothing short of a recording with Trump spewing racism like Stormfront or 4chan will prove him racist.


Don't worry Albert Speer removed Jews from Berlin apartments yet people still think he wasn't aware of his own parties anti-Semitic policy....
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:47 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I just don't think he's racist.

I guess you just don't think, don't you?

I just lie back and think of England nowadays.
Petrasylvania wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Racist, how? How does saying that a nation is a shithole imply inequality between the races?

The manbaby has a history of being sued by the Justice Department for refusing to lease apartments to African Americans. If that's not racist then nothing short of a recording with Trump spewing racism like Stormfront or 4chan will prove him racist.

I guess we're going to need a recording then.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:47 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:The manbaby has a history of being sued by the Justice Department for refusing to lease apartments to African Americans. If that's not racist then nothing short of a recording with Trump spewing racism like Stormfront or 4chan will prove him racist.


Ok, but what does that have to do with Haiti?

It's a history that suggests it's very likely he called Haiti a shithole and implied Haitians are just lazy parasites coming to the U.S. for welfare.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:48 pm

Novowarsawianka wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its still a racist comment no matter how you spin it. Trump should be censured for his comments about Haiti and other countries. Hes a racist plain and simple. But that was clear when he picked Jeff Sessions for Attorney General a man who said the Voting Rights Act should be repealed.


He told it as it is, those countries are what he called them, plus many others. How is that racism? It is racist to deny it actually. Do you know what Haiti or any African country is like? Or most of the Central American ones? Or some of the South American ones?
The people there deserve better, trying to put those countries as "okay" is horrible. We must face the truth and so must they in order to change for their own good.

I am not against immigration from those countries though, as long as the system of immigration is merit based. The intelligent people of those countries at least deserve far better.


Saying a country is a shithole is an insult. This isn't "facing the truth" this is just plain bad manners.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:48 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Ok, but what does that have to do with Haiti?

It's a history that suggests it's very likely he called Haiti a shithole and implied Haitians are just lazy parasites coming to the U.S. for welfare.


Yes, he called Haiti a shithole. Now where is the racism? This is like getting blood from a stone.
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