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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:28 am

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Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:I don't remember pictures of sailors on submarines tbh.


That story was kinda absurd. A sailor on a sub taking pictures while onboard for his family and he got dishonorably discharged and a year in prison or some shit.

Aren't nuclear subs highly restricted with communications especially if they haul nuclear SLBMs?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:56 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
That story was kinda absurd. A sailor on a sub taking pictures while onboard for his family and he got dishonorably discharged and a year in prison or some shit.

Aren't nuclear subs highly restricted with communications especially if they haul nuclear SLBMs?


It was still in port I think, been a while since I read the story though.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:52 am

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politi ... story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:53 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:Today's dose of middle school geopolitics.

Bonus points for the video that played that had Haley saying that the sky is still up three days after the announcement so there's nothing to worry about.

I'm beginning to think that the GOP philosophy doesn't account for things that don't happen instantaneously.

Saying things like that will get you banned from the Friends Of The US cool kids table.


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The book goes on to say that, with the friend’s wife on speakerphone, listening to the conversation, Trump would allegedly ask the friend: “‘Do you still like having sex with your wife? How often? You must have had a better fuck than your wife? Tell me about it. I have girls coming in from Los Angeles at three o’clock. We can go upstairs and have a great time.”


Classy.. it's odd that Trump goes primarily after Bannon and not the book itself, you'd think a better strategy would be to denounce the book entirely as fake rather than attack Bannon, thus implying a lot of the book is true.

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Postby Uxupox » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:00 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Aren't nuclear subs highly restricted with communications especially if they haul nuclear SLBMs?


It was still in port I think, been a while since I read the story though.


Photo's of restricted areas of a inside a nuclear submarine are illegal. Doesn't matter if it's on port or off-port.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:11 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.


So where is the crowd that crime STATES RIGHTS over gay marriage now? Or are they under the same rock that they hide under when states write their own gun laws?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.


So where is the crowd that crime STATES RIGHTS over gay marriage now? Or are they under the same rock that they hide under when states write their own gun laws?

Smoking weed =/= denying gay marriage
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:19 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.

Yes, protect that sweet, sweet ganje, no matter how many people die. To arms, and let the feds fear our mighty battle cry "SMOKE WEED EVERY DAY"
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should bomb North Korea.

That is all.

Yeah, his neighbors won't do nothing about it.

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.


Second American Civil War, anyone?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:14 am

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should bomb North Korea.

That is all.

Yeah, his neighbors won't do nothing about it.

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.


Second American Civil War, anyone?

Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...
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Postby Corrian » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Cant stand the people who are acting like trump single handedly won the fucking war against isis. Load of wank.

Yeah, I knew they were going to be annoying about this. ISIS was dying during the Obama era. They were being "Bombed the shit out of". Trump is just continuing to finish them off. I guarantee they'd be dying just as much under Obama right now if he was still President.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:16 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.

Oh, I think some states are ready to sue on that too actually.

This is something that should piss off both sides, since even if it was just medically, even heavily Republican states supported legalization.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:22 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:Yeah, his neighbors won't do nothing about it.



Second American Civil War, anyone?

Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...

Civil war over weed? Really?

We'd be too high to do anything.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:26 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:We should bomb North Korea.

That is all.

Talk about a shitty take.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:28 am

Corrian wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Cant stand the people who are acting like trump single handedly won the fucking war against isis. Load of wank.

Yeah, I knew they were going to be annoying about this. ISIS was dying during the Obama era. They were being "Bombed the shit out of". Trump is just continuing to finish them off. I guarantee they'd be dying just as much under Obama right now if he was still President.

It never ceased to amaze me how the stupid fucking warhawks kept crying for a "real president" who'd bomb the crap out of ISIS while Obama was doing exactly that. It's the sort of collective idiocy/insanity that makes the optimist in me feel a bit concerned about the future.
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:31 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:Yeah, his neighbors won't do nothing about it.



Second American Civil War, anyone?

Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...


Well, weeds hurt corporations. There have been numerous cases of weeds curing illnesses, right?

Net neutrality hurts corporations.

Progressive rights...well, let just say we cannot appease everyone.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:31 am

Corrian wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.

Oh, I think some states are ready to sue on that too actually.

This is something that should piss off both sides, since even if it was just medically, even heavily Republican states supported legalization.

Polling has shown that Republicans will often "follow the leader" and collectively change their minds on an issue at a neckbreaking pace.

You don't have to be ideologically consistent when your one guiding principle is authoritarianism.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:32 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:Yeah, his neighbors won't do nothing about it.



Second American Civil War, anyone?

Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...

Whether or not they hurt people is beside the point. It is wrong to fight the government on smoking weed "at all fucking costs" because the Devil's lettuce is not worth "all fucking costs".
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:33 am

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...


Well, weeds hurt corporations. There have been numerous cases of weeds curing illnesses, right?

Net neutrality hurts corporations.

Progressive rights...well, let just say we cannot appease everyone.

Yeah. The whole tax bill debate showed that Republican leadership (and likely several in the Democratic leadership) are more concerned about appeasing corporate interests than alienating their voters.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:34 am

Liriena wrote:
Corrian wrote:Oh, I think some states are ready to sue on that too actually.

This is something that should piss off both sides, since even if it was just medically, even heavily Republican states supported legalization.

Polling has shown that Republicans will often "follow the leader" and collectively change their minds on an issue at a neckbreaking pace.

You don't have to be ideologically consistent when your one guiding principle is authoritarianism.

We must rebel against authoritarianism...

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The Flutterlands wrote:Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...


Well, weeds hurt corporations. There have been numerous cases of weeds curing illnesses, right?

Net neutrality hurts corporations.

Progressive rights...well, let just say we cannot appease everyone.


I don't care if they hurt Corporations. They can go fuck themselves. Consumer rights, progressive rights, and the environment should trump Corporate needs and Authoritarianism at all costs.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:35 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Over weed, net neutrality and other progressive rights? Maybe... Let's see what happens in 2018 and 2020 first.

Still, what is so wrong with defying the government on these things? They don't hurt people or the environment...

Whether or not they hurt people is beside the point. It is wrong to fight the government on smoking weed "at all fucking costs" because the Devil's lettuce is not worth "all fucking costs".

If they come for our McDonald's Szechuan sauce, though... gawd help us all.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:36 am

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So where is the crowd that crime STATES RIGHTS over gay marriage now? Or are they under the same rock that they hide under when states write their own gun laws?

Smoking weed =/= denying gay marriage


I think you completely missed the point there.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:37 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/01/04/sessions-will-rescind-policy-that-allowed-legal-marijuana-flourish-without-federal-intervention/P0ZtSj2hFAjktCFME4iJmJ/story.html

Do states have to rebel against the feds even more? I think so and protect their weed at all fucking costs.


So where is the crowd that crime STATES RIGHTS over gay marriage now? Or are they under the same rock that they hide under when states write their own gun laws?

There's nothing that States' Rights Republicans won't impose overrides on if it lets them flex the guns of their morality muscles. Look at how North Carolina overrode cities and imposed the Dickstapo Bill.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:37 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:Smoking weed =/= denying gay marriage


I think you completely missed the point there.

No. I do. Just because I think we should Rebel against pot bans doesn't mean others can rebel against equal rights.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:39 am

Liriena wrote:
Corrian wrote:Oh, I think some states are ready to sue on that too actually.

This is something that should piss off both sides, since even if it was just medically, even heavily Republican states supported legalization.

Polling has shown that Republicans will often "follow the leader" and collectively change their minds on an issue at a neckbreaking pace.

You don't have to be ideologically consistent when your one guiding principle is authoritarianism.

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