Iran Protests

[Shofercia]

Currently, protests are spreading throughout Iran against the government led by President Hassan Rouhani. Counter-protests in support of the government have also flared up led by "hard-liners".
https://apnews.com/ce07ad7aea0a4d1a86f9 ... government
https://www.afp.com/en/news/23/iran-war ... doc-vh7ua1
http://news.trust.org/item/20171230122520-z6tas

Here is a Twitter you should pay attention to:
https://twitter.com/Raman_Ghavami

There's a right way to handle protests, and the wrong way. The right way is to find out the critical issues, genuinely address them, and forcibly disperse the protesters with counter protesters. The wrong way is to either let them grow, or to violently disperse them with the military.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because the Mongols weren't the original inhabitants, and also because it's impossible to reverse what happened by now, much like with the United States and its population.

The Circassians aren't Mongols, but eh, this is only marginally related.

I think we have a different understanding of "Northern Caucuses." The expulsion of the Circassians was undoubtedly a crime against humanity, but I'm not sure how it could be reversed.

[Oil exporting People]

I'm not telling you that you should root for the protesters, but why root for the regime? Just take the neutral route and not route for anyone.

There is no reason to do so; the alternative to the current regime is worse.

[MERIZoC]

I'm not gonna bother disproving your crackpot conspiracy site that thinks the ramblings of one website is official govt policy.




And yet here I am calling you an anti-semite.

I wouldn't call Kramania an anti-Semite

I would.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I wouldn't call Kramania an anti-Semite

I would.

You'd call everyone an anti-Semite

[MERIZoC]

I would.

You'd call everyone an anti-Semite

There are a lot out there, from Nazis to Islamists to zionists. Call out bigotry when you see it.

[Kubumba Tribe]

You'd call everyone an anti-Semite

There are a lot out there, from Nazis to Islamists to zionists. Call out bigotry when you see it.

Oi, not all Islamists are anti-Jewish bruv, don't lump me and other Islamists with them.

[MERIZoC]

There are a lot out there, from Nazis to Islamists to zionists. Call out bigotry when you see it.

Oi, not all Islamists are anti-Jewish bruv, don't lump me and other Islamists with them.

You also call yourself a socialist and maybe communist so it seems to me you're fairly confused about your political views.

[Improved werpland]

The Circassians aren't Mongols, but eh, this is only marginally related.

I think we have a different understanding of "Northern Caucuses." The expulsion of the Circassians was undoubtedly a crime against humanity, but I'm not sure how it could be reversed.

Repatriation, reparations, recognition of the genocide, that would be a start. However, this is a tangent. I am sorry for letting my spite produce posts.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Oi, not all Islamists are anti-Jewish bruv, don't lump me and other Islamists with them.

You also call yourself a socialist and maybe communist so it seems to me you're fairly confused about your political views.

Lol hahahaha.
Sorry, but that says what I support, not what I am.
But you have a point, I should update my sig.

[Genivaria]

I'm not telling you that you should root for the protesters, but why root for the regime? Just take the neutral route and not route for anyone.

There is no reason to do so; the alternative to the current regime is worse.

What alternative?

[Oil exporting People]

What alternative?

At this moment, that's pretty accurate.

[Genivaria]

What alternative?

At this moment, that's pretty accurate.

Well unless a group takes up the cause of reinstating the Shah...who is apparently rather progressive.

[Oil exporting People]

Well unless a group takes up the cause of reinstating the Shah...who is apparently rather progressive.

One of the reasons why I support the current regime.

[Rangila]

Perhaps Mossad has something to do with this unrest.

[Herskerstad]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 3103139841

Took longer than I imaigned, but hey, it finally happened.

[Vistulange]

Perhaps Mossad has something to do with this unrest.

While this may be the case, why do people never, ever think that it just might be because the regime is crap, and the economy is down the shitter, resulting in poor living conditions?

[Ethel mermania]

Perhaps Mossad has something to do with this unrest.

While this may be the case, why do people never, ever think that it just might be because the regime is crap, and the economy is down the shitter, resulting in poor living conditions?

because it has to be the jews, that is the way anti-antisemitism works

[United Muscovite Nations]

Perhaps Mossad has something to do with this unrest.

While this may be the case, why do people never, ever think that it just might be because the regime is crap, and the economy is down the shitter, resulting in poor living conditions?

Well, the economy isn't bad.

[Dooom35796821595]

While this may be the case, why do people never, ever think that it just might be because the regime is crap, and the economy is down the shitter, resulting in poor living conditions?

Well, the economy isn't bad.

It is in Iran.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Well, the economy isn't bad.

It is in Iran.

Not really

[Dooom35796821595]

It is in Iran.

Not really

Wow, a Wikipedia page.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42531165

Some quotes from the above source:

"There is widespread and seething discontent in Iran where repression is pervasive and economic hardship is getting worse - one BBC Persian investigation has found that on average Iranians have become 15% poorer in the past 10 years."

"The protests began in the north-east as an outcry against economic hardship and rising prices,"

"He acknowledged grievances over the economic situation, a lack of transparency and corruption but defended his record."

[Vistulange]

While this may be the case, why do people never, ever think that it just might be because the regime is crap, and the economy is down the shitter, resulting in poor living conditions?

because it has to be the jews, that is the way anti-antisemitism works

No, I mean, I'm not saying MOSSAD, or the CIA is completely off the table. The Iranian regime is demonstrably hostile against Israel and the United States, and it could be very well within the agendas of either agency to at least destabilise the current Iranian government.

However, people generally don't rise up for no reason - especially if they are economically comfortable. Generally speaking - and this is by no means meant to be an expert opinion - people who are economically comfortable don't tend to go out on the streets and potentially risk their lives. The very rich will lobby, or otherwise throw their economic weight around, as opposed to protesting in the streets, while the rich generally tend to evade the regime, as the enforcers of said regime are easily bribed by this social class. It's the middle-class and the lower-class which goes out to the streets, and these people are usually triggered by economic downturn, not some perceived ideological problem.

Ideology is, quite frankly, the work of those who aren't thinking about how they will feed themselves the next day.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Not really

Wow, a Wikipedia page.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42531165

Some quotes from the above source:

"There is widespread and seething discontent in Iran where repression is pervasive and economic hardship is getting worse - one BBC Persian investigation has found that on average Iranians have become 15% poorer in the past 10 years."

"The protests began in the north-east as an outcry against economic hardship and rising prices,"

"He acknowledged grievances over the economic situation, a lack of transparency and corruption but defended his record."

Inflation has been going down over the last year, and the economy growing rapidly for the last two years, so, I have to dispute parts of that. There are undoubtedly problems, but there are problems in every economy.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

because it has to be the jews, that is the way anti-antisemitism works

No, I mean, I'm not saying MOSSAD, or the CIA is completely off the table. The Iranian regime is demonstrably hostile against Israel and the United States, and it could be very well within the agendas of either agency to at least destabilise the current Iranian government.

However, people generally don't rise up for no reason - especially if they are economically comfortable. Generally speaking - and this is by no means meant to be an expert opinion - people who are economically comfortable don't tend to go out on the streets and potentially risk their lives. The very rich will lobby, or otherwise throw their economic weight around, as opposed to protesting in the streets, while the rich generally tend to evade the regime, as the enforcers of said regime are easily bribed by this social class. It's the middle-class and the lower-class which goes out to the streets, and these people are usually triggered by economic downturn, not some perceived ideological problem.

Ideology is, quite frankly, the work of those who aren't thinking about how they will feed themselves the next day.

I watched a video about the Iranian Islamic revolution being started in a time of economic stability.