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What kind of deal is the Iran protests?

No deal
27
18%
Some deal
72
49%
Big deal
49
33%
 
Total votes : 148

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:40 am

Kramania wrote:I call them Nazis because they've made it pretty clear that they want to exterminate Jews. Don't like it? Too bad. I don't feel like debating semantics.


And yet your flag showcases the Black Sun.

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Janszoonia
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Postby Janszoonia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:45 am

Nakena wrote:
Kramania wrote:I call them Nazis because they've made it pretty clear that they want to exterminate Jews. Don't like it? Too bad. I don't feel like debating semantics.


And yet your flag showcases the Black Sun.

"I'm not a Nazi, I'm a national socialist!"
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:46 am

Kramania wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Being antisemitic does not make one a nazi - like, every single country in Europe 150 years ago was antisemitic and you wouldn't call them nazis. National Socialism is an actual political ideology with set and defined doctrines, not just a fun word to slap onto anything or person you don't like.

I call them Nazis because they've made it pretty clear that they want to exterminate Jews. Don't like it? Too bad. I don't feel like debating semantics.

They have a really funny way of exterminating jews given that tens of thousands of jews live peacefully in Iran and they even have a seat set aside for them in the legislature.

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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:47 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:I'll take my chances. Pretty much anything would be better than the Islamonazi government they have. The Iranian people want democracy.

Islamonazi LMAO

Americans perceptions of the world are so great

What's it have to do with being American?
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:48 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:I call them Nazis because they've made it pretty clear that they want to exterminate Jews. Don't like it? Too bad. I don't feel like debating semantics.

They have a really funny way of exterminating jews given that tens of thousands of jews live peacefully in Iran and they even have a seat set aside for them in the legislature.

Just going by what their leadership says. All their huffing and puffing about how they want to wipe Israel off the map never gets old.
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:49 am

Nakena wrote:
Kramania wrote:I call them Nazis because they've made it pretty clear that they want to exterminate Jews. Don't like it? Too bad. I don't feel like debating semantics.


And yet your flag showcases the Black Sun.

My flag is for RP purposes.

I get tired of having to explain this shit.
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Janszoonia
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Postby Janszoonia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:49 am

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:They have a really funny way of exterminating jews given that tens of thousands of jews live peacefully in Iran and they even have a seat set aside for them in the legislature.

Just going by what their leadership says. All their huffing and puffing about how they want to wipe Israel off the map never gets old.

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that you have the black sun on your flag.
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:50 am

Janszoonia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
And yet your flag showcases the Black Sun.

"I'm not a Nazi, I'm a national socialist!"

Your attempt at strawmanning has failed.
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Otira
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Postby Otira » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:50 am

This a CIA triggered thing?

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:50 am

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Islamonazi LMAO

Americans perceptions of the world are so great

What's it have to do with being American?

Because Americans are generally very ignorant of how other countries actually function or think. The ultimate level of this is Godwin, where all opposing countries are compared to Nazi Germany on some unreasonable basis. There's a lot more to Nazism than not liking Jews, it's a very specific ideology that is very complex. It's a thing Americans do where they like to simplify all ideologies so that they don't have to actually worry about the basis of them (for example, we literally teach in High School classes that Hitler wanted to kill anyone without blonde hair and blue eyes, it's hilarious).
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:50 am

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:They have a really funny way of exterminating jews given that tens of thousands of jews live peacefully in Iran and they even have a seat set aside for them in the legislature.

Just going by what their leadership says. All their huffing and puffing about how they want to wipe Israel off the map never gets old.

"We recognize our Jews as separate from those godless, bloodsucking Zionists." -Ayatollah Khomeini

You assertion is laughable.

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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:50 am

Janszoonia wrote:
Kramania wrote:Just going by what their leadership says. All their huffing and puffing about how they want to wipe Israel off the map never gets old.

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that you have the black sun on your flag.

Kramania wrote:
Nakena wrote:
And yet your flag showcases the Black Sun.

My flag is for RP purposes.

I get tired of having to explain this shit.
Watching my sanity slip away in my dreams

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Janszoonia
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Founded: Dec 18, 2017
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Postby Janszoonia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:50 am

Kramania wrote:
Janszoonia wrote:"I'm not a Nazi, I'm a national socialist!"

Your attempt at strawmanning has failed.

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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:51 am

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Islamonazi LMAO

Americans perceptions of the world are so great

What's it have to do with being American?

Americans, as you evidence, often have very poor knowledge about the world beyond their borders.

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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:51 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:Just going by what their leadership says. All their huffing and puffing about how they want to wipe Israel off the map never gets old.

"We recognize our Jews as separate from those godless, bloodsucking Zionists." -Ayatollah Khomeini

You assertion is laughable.

"Our Jews"

Fucking lol.
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:52 am

Otira wrote:This a CIA triggered thing?

No. Just an angry people-triggered thing.
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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Because if there's one thing America hates more then theocratic autocracy, it's communists. :p

As a yank I have no problem with the reds. It all depends on what benefits American and the Islamic republic isn't beneficial to American interests.

Someone else's country shouldn't benefit foreigners who don't even live there. Iran should benefit Iranians 1st.
Actually, they should benefit Muslims 1st, but that's the pan-Islamist in me ;)
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:52 am

Janszoonia wrote:
Kramania wrote:Your attempt at strawmanning has failed.

Y O U H A V E A N A Z I S Y M B O L O N Y O U R F L A G

I A M A J E W
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Janszoonia
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Founded: Dec 18, 2017
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Postby Janszoonia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:What's it have to do with being American?

Americans, as you evidence, often have very poor knowledge about the world beyond their borders.

Don't generalize, my dude.


Link me a geography quiz and I shall prove my knowledge to you.
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:"We recognize our Jews as separate from those godless, bloodsucking Zionists." -Ayatollah Khomeini

You assertion is laughable.

"Our Jews"

Fucking lol.

Our—the country of Iran
Jews—jews

Our jews—the jews of the country of Iran

Glad to help.

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:They have a really funny way of exterminating jews given that tens of thousands of jews live peacefully in Iran and they even have a seat set aside for them in the legislature.

Just going by what their leadership says. All their huffing and puffing about how they want to wipe Israel off the map never gets old.

"Wipe Israel off the map" is actually a very crude translation. A better translation would be something like "We want to redraw the map without Israel." "Wipe off the map" has connotations of destruction in English; the phrase actually used implies more a redrawing of borders.
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I am Bulgar
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Postby I am Bulgar » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

Everyone sees through this western attempt to coup yet another government.

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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

Janszoonia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Americans, as you evidence, often have very poor knowledge about the world beyond their borders.

Don't generalize, my dude.


Link me a geography quiz and I shall prove my knowledge to you.

lol

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Otira
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Postby Otira » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

Kramania wrote:
Otira wrote:This a CIA triggered thing?

No. Just an angry people-triggered thing.

I hope so. The whole reason there's an islamic republic to be overthrown is because of the CIA and their last regime change in Iran/Persia. I'm hoping this one is free of their talented individuals.

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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:53 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:What's it have to do with being American?

Americans, as you evidence, often have very poor knowledge about the world beyond their borders.

Cheap shot, but I don't think that's a strictly American phenomenon.
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