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by Pope Joan » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:57 pm
by Torrocca » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:06 am
Kramania wrote:Valrifell wrote:
They're not even militant (yet) how can we offer support to a buncha protesters? Sending them checks seems wildly inefficient and a waste of time.
We could at least announce our support for them, or for free and open elections in Iran free from the influence of the mullahs, at least.
by Republic of the Cristo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:09 am
by Torrocca » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:13 am
Republic of the Cristo wrote:If a revolution is to occur ( which I don't think it will ), I doubt I will support it. Mind you, I am no fan of the Iranian government - but I am no fan of perpetual civil war and sectarian violence, or western liberalconsumerismdemocracy. I suppose a Christian Statist society would be too much to ask for in the middle east though, so... yeah.
by Senkaku » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:16 am
by Republic of the Cristo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:16 am
Torrocca wrote:Republic of the Cristo wrote:If a revolution is to occur ( which I don't think it will ), I doubt I will support it. Mind you, I am no fan of the Iranian government - but I am no fan of perpetual civil war and sectarian violence, or western liberalconsumerismdemocracy. I suppose a Christian Statist society would be too much to ask for in the middle east though, so... yeah.
>tfw you ask for exactly what the Iranian government currently is just with a different name
by Republic of the Cristo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:17 am
Senkaku wrote:"there's protests in [country]!!! is a democratic revolution on the way????????" - western media every time they so much as glimpse an angry crowd somewhere
by Torrocca » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:21 am
Senkaku wrote:"there's protests in [country]!!! is a democratic revolution on the way????????" - western media every time they so much as glimpse an angry crowd somewhere
by Republic of the Cristo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:24 am
Torrocca wrote:Republic of the Cristo wrote:
No supreme leader under such a system - checks and balances like in the US. And some super strict anti-corruption laws as well ( big ole problem in iran )
So basically just a dictatorship with more people dictating things (since you declared no democracy). Hmmm.Senkaku wrote:"there's protests in [country]!!! is a democratic revolution on the way????????" - western media every time they so much as glimpse an angry crowd somewhere
Fully automated luxury gay space communist revolution, obviously. *Nod*
by Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:26 am
Torrocca wrote:Kramania wrote:We could at least announce our support for them, or for free and open elections in Iran free from the influence of the mullahs, at least.
And then the moment they deviate slightly from the American course of action (with maybe a bit of socialism, or maybe a bit of nationalizing the oil refineries) we off the entirety of their new government and install a totalitarian dictator! Surely nothing bad could come of that.
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by Torrocca » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:27 am
Kramania wrote:Torrocca wrote:
And then the moment they deviate slightly from the American course of action (with maybe a bit of socialism, or maybe a bit of nationalizing the oil refineries) we off the entirety of their new government and install a totalitarian dictator! Surely nothing bad could come of that.
Another socialist trying to nail himself to a cross.
I'm. A tale as old as, err, well, the existence of socialism.
by New Grestin » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:31 am
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by Torrocca » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:31 am
Kramania wrote:Torrocca wrote:
I mean, we could always just pretend that the US wouldn't ever dare to meddle in the affairs of Iran. No siree. In fact, the Shah never even existed.
Of course we meddle. We are a country with interests to protect like, you know, every other country on the face of the bloody earth.
by Nakena » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:33 am
by Kramania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:34 am
Torrocca wrote:Kramania wrote:Of course we meddle. We are a country with interests to protect like, you know, every other country on the face of the bloody earth.
Mmhmm. It'd be better if we, y'know, didn't, though, considering what ended up happening to the last democratic government in Iran and then the aftermath of the succeeding government.
by New Grestin » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:35 am
Torrocca wrote:Kramania wrote:Of course we meddle. We are a country with interests to protect like, you know, every other country on the face of the bloody earth.
Mmhmm. It'd be better if we, y'know, didn't, though, considering what ended up happening to the last democratic government in Iran and then the aftermath of the succeeding government.
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by Senkaku » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:40 am
Torrocca wrote:Kramania wrote:Of course we meddle. We are a country with interests to protect like, you know, every other country on the face of the bloody earth.
Mmhmm. It'd be better if we, y'know, didn't, though, considering what ended up happening to the last democratic government in Iran and then the aftermath of the succeeding government.
Torrocca wrote:Kramania wrote:We could at least announce our support for them, or for free and open elections in Iran free from the influence of the mullahs, at least.
And then the moment they deviate slightly from the American course of action (with maybe a bit of socialism, or maybe a bit of nationalizing the oil refineries) we off the entirety of their new government and install a totalitarian dictator! Surely nothing bad could come of that.
by Republic of the Cristo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:41 am
Torrocca wrote:Kramania wrote:Of course we meddle. We are a country with interests to protect like, you know, every other country on the face of the bloody earth.
Mmhmm. It'd be better if we, y'know, didn't, though, considering what ended up happening to the last democratic government in Iran and then the aftermath of the succeeding government.
by The Conez Imperium » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:49 am
Republic of the Cristo wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Mmhmm. It'd be better if we, y'know, didn't, though, considering what ended up happening to the last democratic government in Iran and then the aftermath of the succeeding government.
I'm not one for imperialism... but I do agree that America should act as the world's police. We have done some truly awful things in the name of protecting American interests - but consider how worse things would be had we chosen to take a step back. What if we just never chose not to assist in the campaign against ISIS? What if we just suddenly stopped supporting the Afghan government? What if we just pulled all our military units out of S korea and Japan? The same goes for Europe. Imagine if we just left Israel to their own devices, how extreme they would suddenly become after being left to fend for themselves.
America has made some truly terrible mistakes across the world - but the tapestry has been knit, and if we leave it now it could run the risk of completely unraveling into chaos... or worse, someone takes our place. Could you imagine china or Russia being the world's police?
America must remain at the top and involved in world affairs, but we must be more humble and considerate in doing so in the future.
by Verlzonia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:52 am
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