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Should we ban porn?

Yes, it should be banned outright
105
12%
No, but it should be heavily restricted and require a license to view/obtain
24
3%
No, but it should be heavily restricted to stop children from being able to view
81
9%
No, but it should be heavily discouraged and people should be educated on it's effects
109
13%
No, (all three above)
29
3%
No, let people do what they want
499
57%
Other (Please state what)
21
2%
 
Total votes : 868

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Postby Zanera » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:41 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I will use my second amendment rights to protect my porn and beer


Beer is nasty and barbaric and should be done away with tbh


That's racist against the Hun.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:54 pm

Katganistan wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:"the Supreme Court's position on First Amendment protection of obscene material, as articulated in Roth, has not changed"

Of course, ignore all but part of one sentence.

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Good job there.

The key point is that obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment. If what is basically obscene material has been protected in the past by the First Amendment, it is NOT because it is obscene, but rather in spite of it.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:34 pm

Kiger wrote:
Alvecia wrote:We don't exist to do anything. We just exist.

You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.


So I guess the biologically infertile aren't real humans or something then.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:53 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.


So I guess the biologically infertile aren't real humans or something then.

They're figments of our collective imagination.

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Postby Zanera » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So I guess the biologically infertile aren't real humans or something then.

They're figments of our collective imagination.


They're robot aliens from Zion 5.

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Postby New haven america » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:08 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:They're the same thin really

Well, now we know what kind of porn you're watching. :P
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Postby New haven america » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:22 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.


So I guess the biologically infertile aren't real humans or something then.

Of course.
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Well, now we know what kind of porn you're watching. :P

Sex is always better in the original Klingon.

jop vISIQbogh HaSta? yu'.

Um...qa'pla?
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:35 am

No. I mean this isn’t exactly something you can “ban”, just gonna get a prohibition type deal.
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Postby Kiger » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:42 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

And what about me? I can tell you unequivocally that I don't exist to procreate when having sex with the same sex as me...

Biologically we exist to procreate, doesn't mean you can stray from the reason of existence.

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Postby Kiger » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:46 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

Nature does not intend for us to procreate, or do anything else.

It's just that the creatures that reproduce the best tend to dominate their environment.

It is you who are quite wrong.

So is making babies -- and having genes survive through the generations -- the meaning of life? The answer is yes
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gu ... ke-babies/

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Postby Kiger » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

Biology does not attribute a purpose to the existence of humans or any other species.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gu ... ke-babies/

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Postby Kiger » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:47 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Mankind exists to reproduce, individual men and women may well not. If the species in general were completely, or even mainly, engaging in same sex relationships it would not have survived as long as it has.

Mankind exists because of reproduction, not for reproduction.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gu ... ke-babies/
"So is making babies -- and having genes survive through the generations -- the meaning of life? The answer is yes"

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Postby Kiger » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.


So I guess the biologically infertile aren't real humans or something then.

Don't be a cunt. There are always abnormalities.

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Postby Darussalam » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:52 am

Kiger wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Nature does not intend for us to procreate, or do anything else.

It's just that the creatures that reproduce the best tend to dominate their environment.

It is you who are quite wrong.

So is making babies -- and having genes survive through the generations -- the meaning of life? The answer is yes
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gu ... ke-babies/

Once again people are mistaking the positive as the normative.
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Postby What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:05 am

Nah, let 'em do it. I kinda like it.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:26 am

Wallenburg wrote:
New haven america wrote:jop vISIQbogh HaSta? yu'.

Um...qa'pla?

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Postby Asherahan » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:57 am

-It creates emotional bond with artificial world
Only mentally impaired people have a problem differentiating fantasy with reality.

-It results in a short term high, eventually results in feelings of emptiness, low self-esteem and deep loneliness, similar to drugs
Is there proof of this? And even then if you watch regulated porn then it is your own decision. Too much of anything is bad including being a prude.

-Means you can’t get aroused by just your spouse
Assuming you can't get aroused by your spouse then it is not the porns fault. It means your marriage is failing and you are looking for a scapegoat.

-Porn wrecks your libido
No it doesn't.

-Porn makes you sexually lazy
No it doesn't. I would even argue it gives you incentives to try stuff from it.

-Makes regular intercourse seem mundane
No it doesn't nothing beats actual sex.

-Makes it difficult to last long during sex
No it doesn't.
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Postby Nimzonia » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:50 am

Kennlind wrote:-It creates emotional bond with artificial world


So does religion, maybe we should ban that too. At least porn never started any wars (although it might if you tried to ban it).

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Postby Kiger » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:30 am

Nimzonia wrote:
Kennlind wrote:-It creates emotional bond with artificial world


So does religion, maybe we should ban that too. At least porn never started any wars (although it might if you tried to ban it).

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Postby What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:32 am

Nimzonia wrote:
Kennlind wrote:-It creates emotional bond with artificial world


So does religion, maybe we should ban that too. At least porn never started any wars (although it might if you tried to ban it).


It would be like Lord of the Cock Rings.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:35 am

Kiger wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And what about me? I can tell you unequivocally that I don't exist to procreate when having sex with the same sex as me...

Biologically we exist to procreate, doesn't mean you can stray from the reason of existence.

Nope. I biologically exist to do things that will not result in procreation. Trust me, the way I have sex will not result in babies being created. That pokes a pretty big hole in your theory, doesn't it?

Also, don't use the same source when addressing multiple points, that is just academic laziness.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:40 am

The New California Republic wrote:Nope. I biologically exist to do things that will not result in procreation. Trust me, the way I have sex will not result in babies being created. That pokes a pretty big hole in your theory, doesn't it?

No, it really does not. The use of a mechanism for things other than its intended purpose does not invalidate the existence of said purpose.

We humans are intelligent creatures whose one biological advantage is our ability to adapt and think creatively. We can use anything up and including our own biological mechanisms for things they did not evolve for. That does not mean we should ignore the facts they did evolve for a purpose or that we are animals. Just that we should be really proud of our creativity.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:43 am

Purpelia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Nope. I biologically exist to do things that will not result in procreation. Trust me, the way I have sex will not result in babies being created. That pokes a pretty big hole in your theory, doesn't it?

No, it really does not. The use of a mechanism for things other than its intended purpose does not invalidate the existence of said purpose.

Oh you! Saying that I am using my penis wrongly! :hug:
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:50 am

Purpelia wrote:We humans are intelligent creatures whose one biological advantage is our ability to adapt and think creatively. We can use anything up and including our own biological mechanisms for things they did not evolve for. That does not mean we should ignore the facts they did evolve for a purpose or that we are animals. Just that we should be really proud of our creativity.

Yeah that was the point I was making, just not in as many words. I am typing all this on a crappy ancient iPad, which is frustrating as hell for typing things. Normal service will be resumed shortly when I get back to an actual computer with an actual keyboard.
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