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Should we ban porn?

Yes, it should be banned outright
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12%
No, but it should be heavily restricted and require a license to view/obtain
24
3%
No, but it should be heavily restricted to stop children from being able to view
81
9%
No, but it should be heavily discouraged and people should be educated on it's effects
109
13%
No, (all three above)
29
3%
No, let people do what they want
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57%
Other (Please state what)
21
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Total votes : 868

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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:29 am

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It's an idiotic attitude today that knowledge and education is useless. Here you go on a rip about it when all I said was that they were not wrong about what they said. They weren't. You said mules were sterile. They are, MOSTLY. So you were right in part, and wrong in part, and making snide comments about someone else's knowledge.

How was I saying that knowledge and education was useless? I was saying instead that some knowledge is more useful than others, and we tend now to prioritise the wrong sort of knowledge.

Like the knowledge that mules don't have to be infertile, and are very useful?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:48 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:How was I saying that knowledge and education was useless? I was saying instead that some knowledge is more useful than others, and we tend now to prioritise the wrong sort of knowledge.

Like the knowledge that mules don't have to be infertile, and are very useful?

Sixty females in five hundred years have been fertile, no male has been fertile. No mules have ever conceived together. They are for all practical intents and purposes infertile.

Their usefulness is obvious and was never up for debate.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:56 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Like the knowledge that mules don't have to be infertile, and are very useful?

Sixty females in five hundred years have been fertile, no male has been fertile. No mules have ever conceived together. They are for all practical intents and purposes infertile.

Their usefulness is obvious and was never up for debate.

And you behaved as if they were an evolutionary mistake.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:05 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Sixty females in five hundred years have been fertile, no male has been fertile. No mules have ever conceived together. They are for all practical intents and purposes infertile.

Their usefulness is obvious and was never up for debate.

And you behaved as if they were an evolutionary mistake.

They're not a mistake they were deliberately created by humans for a purpose. But they're a dead end as a species (if that's the right terminology) because they cannot reproduce, there's never been a second generation mule. And all this being an odd justification to back up furry behaviour being rational and good for humanity because different species fucking each other is good for evolution or how it progresses or something ridiculous like that.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:24 am

There should be certainly better sex education: I mean, real sex education, with official instruction vids made by professionals (why not former pornstars with something in head, like Sasha Grey or Ron Jeremy?)

Why? To make kids understand, that, for example, Mandingo is not average guy (not even average black guy) or that two things in the ass is too much for majority of girls.
To make kids understand what's real and what's mostly fiction.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:30 am

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Thermodolia wrote:I will use my second amendment rights to protect my porn and beer


Beer is nasty and barbaric and should be done away with tbh

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:31 am

New Dumnezeu wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And you have a source for this claim?

Ugh, my friends/classmates say they were watching porn since they were kids, and this kind of made them addicted to it. I have no actual source for it, sorry. :/

Then don't claim it if you can't back it up
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Postby VoVoDoCo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
New Dumnezeu wrote:Ugh, my friends/classmates say they were watching porn since they were kids, and this kind of made them addicted to it. I have no actual source for it, sorry. :/

Then don't claim it if you can't back it up

Although kudos for not being a part of the, "I don't need evidence, it's common sense!" crowd that often invades threads like these.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
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Beer is nasty and barbaric and should be done away with tbh

Heresy. Beer is quite possibly the first thing we invented after agriculture. Without beer we wouldn't have civilisation.


Without beer humanity would probably not have survived the middle ages...

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Postby Kiger » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:11 am

Alvecia wrote:
Kiger wrote:No we don't we exist to procreate and create another generation of humans and they will do the same if they choose to, we exist to further the line of homo sapiens.

We don't exist to do anything. We just exist.

You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:15 am

Kiger wrote:
Alvecia wrote:We don't exist to do anything. We just exist.

You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

And what about me? I can tell you unequivocally that I don't exist to procreate when having sex with the same sex as me...
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:32 am

Kiger wrote:
Alvecia wrote:We don't exist to do anything. We just exist.

You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

Biology does not attribute a purpose to the existence of humans or any other species.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:32 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

And what about me? I can tell you unequivocally that I don't exist to procreate when having sex with the same sex as me...

We exist to have fun obviously
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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:33 am

Kiger wrote:
Alvecia wrote:We don't exist to do anything. We just exist.

You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

Nature does not intend for us to procreate, or do anything else.

It's just that the creatures that reproduce the best tend to dominate their environment.

It is you who are quite wrong.
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Postby War Gears » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:35 am

Kiger wrote:
Alvecia wrote:We don't exist to do anything. We just exist.

You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.


No, we don't. There's no telos behind evolution. If there was, sterile life forms would not be a thing.
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Postby Topoliani » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:52 am

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That's a HUGE fucking assumption there bud.

And if it ISN'T man-made, then what created this moral? God obviously, but WHICH ONE and WHY?

La Vendee wrote:All morals belong to God and not any civilization.

Which one? And how did we maintain "Morals" before Jesus died on a cross?
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Of course, if morality is subjective, there is nothing wrong with murder

But, if morality is objective, it is also OK to murder because your god has said MULTIPLE TIMES that it's OK to get away with murder
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:58 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
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It's an idiotic attitude today that knowledge and education is useless. Here you go on a rip about it when all I said was that they were not wrong about what they said. They weren't. You said mules were sterile. They are, MOSTLY. So you were right in part, and wrong in part, and making snide comments about someone else's knowledge.

How was I saying that knowledge and education was useless? I was saying instead that some knowledge is more useful than others, and we tend now to prioritise the wrong sort of knowledge.

Now you're pitching a fit about someone observing that person wasn't wrong.

Maybe the problem's not my post.

And forgive me for actually reading the whole thread and not just jumping in at the end to make a comment that's been made six hundred times before. I know that's kind of out-dated and old-fashioned. I mean, seriously, knowing what happened in the topic before making a comment. Responding to earlier points. What next, actually being on topic? MADNESS!

Then why did you make it a problem again? It was a minor point made several days, about mules, that was no longer being pursued. Did I offend you in some way?


So responding to your posts is making a problem.
Gotcha.

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Postby Katganistan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Beer is nasty and barbaric and should be done away with tbh

Heresy. Beer is quite possibly the first thing we invented after agriculture. Without beer we wouldn't have civilisation.

The earliest recipe we have for beer came from Mesopotamia, about 3900BCE. And it was used for nutrition in Ancient Egypt and drunk there daily.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

Biology does not attribute a purpose to the existence of humans or any other species.

Which is why in part species go extinct. When ecological pressures or other invasive species become too much for them, we don't all stop for a do-over.

Either they adapt, or we humans intervene -- or they go extinct.

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Postby Elwher » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:17 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Kiger wrote:You're quite wrong, we biologically exist to procreate and further the homo sapien line.

And what about me? I can tell you unequivocally that I don't exist to procreate when having sex with the same sex as me...


Mankind exists to reproduce, individual men and women may well not. If the species in general were completely, or even mainly, engaging in same sex relationships it would not have survived as long as it has.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:20 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Heresy. Beer is quite possibly the first thing we invented after agriculture. Without beer we wouldn't have civilisation.

The earliest recipe we have for beer came from Mesopotamia, about 3900BCE. And it was used for nutrition in Ancient Egypt and drunk there daily.

Looks like wine is ~8,000 years old.

While beer may have brought us drunkenness, wine brought us civilization. *dives for cover* :P

On topic: depending on interpretation, various cave drawings of greater antiquity may be the earliest porn.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:33 pm

Elwher wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And what about me? I can tell you unequivocally that I don't exist to procreate when having sex with the same sex as me...


Mankind exists to reproduce, individual men and women may well not. If the species in general were completely, or even mainly, engaging in same sex relationships it would not have survived as long as it has.

Mankind exists because of reproduction, not for reproduction.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:00 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Mankind exists to reproduce, individual men and women may well not. If the species in general were completely, or even mainly, engaging in same sex relationships it would not have survived as long as it has.

Mankind exists because of reproduction, not for reproduction.

Well, they may agree with Paul Ryan and think that it's appropriate to tell people to have more kids.

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:07 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Mankind exists to reproduce, individual men and women may well not. If the species in general were completely, or even mainly, engaging in same sex relationships it would not have survived as long as it has.

Mankind exists because of reproduction, not for reproduction.


I live to eat, not because of I eat. :p
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:12 pm

Katganistan wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Mankind exists because of reproduction, not for reproduction.

Well, they may agree with Paul Ryan and think that it's appropriate to tell people to have more kids.

Also, if you want people having more kids, you take it up with the economy, or with a level of pollution that makes humanity look hopelessly bad for the environment. Not with porn.
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