Should we ban pornography?

[Xelsis]

Wait, important question no one seems to be answering;

People who want porn banned, have you ever watched porn?

That's not really an "important question."

One does not need to partake in a banned activity to wish it to be so. See: Most crime.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I don't see how porn is like hate speech.

They're both excluded from free speech protection based on their being seen both as offensive and lacking content. That latter especially cinches the point with porn, which is not seen as expressing opinion.

Tell that to every comments section to hentai drawings.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Where does that leave hentai?

No, I wouldn’t ban hentai.

Well, it's porn, and you didn't say "except hentai."

[The Parkus Empire]

They're both excluded from free speech protection based on their being seen both as offensive and lacking content. That latter especially cinches the point with porn, which is not seen as expressing opinion.

Tell that to every comments section to hentai drawings.

Those comments are protected by the 1st Amendment provided they have content of social importantance, although I doubt the hentai would be.

[Thermodolia]

Ignoring your garbage sources, no people won't have to pay for porn. They didn't have to pay for porn pre-2013 so they wouldn't do it now. Besides it's not that much to pay for porn. I only pay about $50 a month for two sites.


Well ok then...


Not an addict. And no I'm not going to stop watching porn and my health is fine


Oh joy the thought police is here.


Um you can't get over depression. Trust me

I beg to disagree. Maybe for you lot who let the doctors hook you up on drugs, God saved me after I chose not to take any.

Dude I haven't been on any drugs and it's still something you can't just get over. Trust me I wish I could

[Aillyria]

He means objects as in "fuck toys" and objects for ones own gratification.

Assholes will always exist.

And guess what a guy who treats women as "fuck toys" does without porn...

Porn makes more men, and women, view others as objects. It promotes the idea and other foul pratices, like adultery....which is a prevalent theme in much modern media.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Define "as objects."



Hentai doesn't involve actresses at all. Or are you counting artists as actresses and fans asking for new content as rape?

He means objects as in "fuck toys" and objects for ones own gratification.

We all use each other for gratification on some level or another. The key is whether or not it's in a mutual manner.

The only porn that portrays non-mutual gratification is that which portrays rape. Even that shouldn't be banned, as long as the rapes are purely fictitious, but there is no sense throwing other porn out with it.

[Petrolheadia]

Assholes will always exist.

And guess what a guy who treats women as "fuck toys" does without porn...

Porn makes more men, and women, view others as objects. It promotes the idea and other foul pratices, like adultery....which is a prevalent theme in much modern media.

Or maybe people started screwing with different people because contraception works?

End fornication: bomb Durex's HQ!

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Assholes will always exist.

And guess what a guy who treats women as "fuck toys" does without porn...

Porn makes more men, and women, view others as objects. It promotes the idea and other foul pratices, like adultery....which is a prevalent theme in much modern media.

"Portrays adultery" is not inherent in the definition of porn. What you're looking for is a ban on porn portraying adultery. Or do you realize that something targeting specific ideas for censorship wouldn't fly? Hell, criminalizing adultery itself wouldn't fly these days.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Porn makes more men, and women, view others as objects. It promotes the idea and other foul pratices, like adultery....which is a prevalent theme in much modern media.

Or maybe people started screwing with different people because contraception works?

End fornication: bomb Durex's HQ!

Perhaps it's also because fewer people believe this sky-daddy will sentence them to eternal torture over adultery, as the arguments against religion become more and more abundant.

Thank goodness. If a couple is going to refrain from committing adultery, I want it to be because they love each other, not because they fear punishment.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Tell that to every comments section to hentai drawings.

Those comments are protected by the 1st Amendment provided they have content of social importantance, although I doubt the hentai would be.

It's what they were talking about. It's what started the conversation. To censor the drawings would, at best, be to take that conversation out of context.

You don't think erotic drawings of Mei from Overwatch are commentary on how magazines that idolize skinny women don't speak for the rest of us? Or how even muscularity, which a higher fraction of men have actually claimed to be grossed out by, is being actively refuted as at least somewhat overstated by drawings of human versions of Spitfire from MLP:FIM?

[La Vendee]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

[Kenmoria]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

Justification?

[Topoliani]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

y tho?

[The Parkus Empire]

Those comments are protected by the 1st Amendment provided they have content of social importantance, although I doubt the hentai would be.

It's what they were talking about. It's what started the conversation. To censor the drawings would, at best, be to take that conversation out of context.

You don't think erotic drawings of Mei from Overwatch are commentary on how magazines that idolize skinny women don't speak for the rest of us? Or how even muscularity, which a higher fraction of men have actually claimed to be grossed out by, is being actively refuted as at least somewhat overstated by drawings of human versions of Spitfire from MLP:FIM?

I have no idea what the hell you are saying or understand any of it. I don't watch porn, I don't read comic books, I don't want cartoons, I don't play video games, I do not understand any of this.

[The Batavia]

It's what they were talking about. It's what started the conversation. To censor the drawings would, at best, be to take that conversation out of context.

You don't think erotic drawings of Mei from Overwatch are commentary on how magazines that idolize skinny women don't speak for the rest of us? Or how even muscularity, which a higher fraction of men have actually claimed to be grossed out by, is being actively refuted as at least somewhat overstated by drawings of human versions of Spitfire from MLP:FIM?

I have no idea what the hell you are saying or understand any of it. I don't watch porn, I don't read comic books, I don't want cartoons, I don't play video games, I do not understand any of this.

Perhaps it's better this way tbh.

[Petrolheadia]

It's what they were talking about. It's what started the conversation. To censor the drawings would, at best, be to take that conversation out of context.

You don't think erotic drawings of Mei from Overwatch are commentary on how magazines that idolize skinny women don't speak for the rest of us? Or how even muscularity, which a higher fraction of men have actually claimed to be grossed out by, is being actively refuted as at least somewhat overstated by drawings of human versions of Spitfire from MLP:FIM?

I have no idea what the hell you are saying or understand any of it. I don't watch porn, I don't read comic books, I don't want cartoons, I don't play video games, I do not understand any of this.

Dude, do you even have a life?

[Thermodolia]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

Or you just shouldn't watch any

[The New California Republic]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

We are gonna need a bit more than that to work with, namely a justification.

[Liriena]

speaking from the perspective that wage labour is inherently coercive

If it was so easy to make a profit off a company, nobody would be doing wage labour.

Just my own 2 cents.

Counterpoint: most people are born in economic circumstances where access to the means of production is nearly impossible (specially in regions where they have been historically hoarded and zealously held by a powerful elite), so there really isn't much of an opportunity to even try to lead a company, rather than do wage labour.

[La Vendee]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

Justification?

As a Catholic, I understand that it violates the moral law. It is a sex act outside of marriage, really, just a video version of prostitution.

[Thermodolia]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

We are gonna need a bit more than that to work with, namely a justification.

"Because god said so"
"Because i want to"
"Because i think it's icky"
"Because my wife/mother/parent won't let me watch it"

[Liriena]

Yes, pornography should be banned entirely.

We are gonna need a bit more than that to work with, namely a justification.

User appears to be a traditionalist Catholic, so there's a good hint at why.

[Liriena]

Justification?

As a Catholic, I understand that it violates the moral law. It is a sex act outside of marriage, really, just a video version of prostitution.

What if the actors are married to one another?

Lots of amateur porn done by married couples.

[Thermodolia]

Justification?

As a Catholic, I understand that it violates the moral law. It is a sex act outside of marriage, really, just a video version of prostitution.

Ok then that's your problem not ours. I'm not a catholic so I we should i follow your religious rules? Also prostitution should be legal