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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:52 am

Use what you kill, even if you have to give it out to friends and family to keep it from going to waste; don't overhunt or hunt species that are endangered or important to the balance of the local ecosystem; obey the local laws and practice good gun safety.

Follow all that and I've no problem with you. Hunt for sport, for religious purposes, for fun, for food, for trophies, doesn't matter.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:52 am

The Alma Mater wrote:The OP is however focussing on hunting for fun. Like how bullfighting is causing animals pain for fun. Or how throwing fireworks at animals tonight is causing them pain for fun.

What's wrong with killing animals cleanly for fun?
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:28 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Purpelia wrote:And that's perfectly fine just as long as its regulated to ensure the environmental impact is minimal. Where I am from, hunting is only legal on designated hunting grounds during designated hunting season and hunting associations have their own breeding farms where they make sure that the animal population does not decline. So it's all environmentally friendly. And that's the only thing that counts because animals are not people and their pain is irrelevant.


And women are not men and blacks are not whites. Right ?

I mean, yeah? Kinda obvious. I understand what you’re saying though but the problem is that there is a much larger divide between humans and other animals than there is between individual humans.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:33 am

My great grandfather: if you kill it, you gotta eat it.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:54 am

Jabberwocky wrote:My great grandfather: if you kill it, you gotta eat it.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
Jabberwocky wrote:My great grandfather: if you kill it, you gotta eat it.

I collect breakfast from the mousetraps every morning.

Nice.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:18 am

Hog hunting with machine guns is very good.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:45 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hog hunting with machine guns is very good.


Every hog that is dead is another glorious victory for humanity.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:01 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hog hunting with machine guns is very good.


Every hog that is dead is another glorious victory for humanity.

I once spent a night up in a tree because one of them was literal Satan and chased me all around.

Okkkkk......
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Postby Otira » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:31 pm

Nice and fun. Good as long as it is kept to a point where animal populations aren't hunted too low.

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Postby Zanera » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:20 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hog hunting with machine guns is very good.


Every hog that is dead is another glorious victory for humanity.

I once spent a night up in a tree because one of them was literal Satan and chased me all around.


That's when you ascend to demigod level and show it who's boss.

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Postby Zanera » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:35 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:Factors that have been destroying species
-Urbanization
-Illegal killing
-Pesticides
-Controlled Pests
-Competition with introduced species
Legal hunting has actually contributed to helping our wildlife.

It's a way to control the population and keep the flora under the carrying capacity of a habitat, its beneficial. Without hunting there'd be overpopulation, habitats would be destroyed and disease/starvation would run rampant.

That can be so, but only when hunters are properly regulated. Unrestricted hunting has lead to several extinctions. Or have you not heard of the dodo?


(encouraged) Hunting helped drive the thylacine to extinction.

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:50 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Every hog that is dead is another glorious victory for humanity.

I once spent a night up in a tree because one of them was literal Satan and chased me all around.

Okkkkk......

It's my understanding that wild pigs are a serious threat to farmers both as viscous little murder machines and because they destroy crops and fences and stuff. Pigs in general are nasty things. Like they will eat you down to and including your bones if they are hungry. Sort of like velociraptors only you can eat them back.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:58 pm

I think hunting is fine in a limited and regulated manner.
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Postby Kanadorika » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:29 pm

I've always found that true hunters and woodsmen generally seem to appreciate the natural world more than the average anti-hunting activist, as they are the ones who go out in the forest and into the brush where others don't venture. They seem to have an understanding of the value of life that's really hard to understand unless you see it first hand.
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Postby New Gaireniahr » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:25 pm

Well, honestly i don't see hunting as a "good or bad" situation. I think that it's just a matter of personal opinion.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:32 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Okkkkk......

It's my understanding that wild pigs are a serious threat to farmers both as viscous little murder machines and because they destroy crops and fences and stuff. Pigs in general are nasty things. Like they will eat you down to and including your bones if they are hungry. Sort of like velociraptors only you can eat them back.

We could probably eat velociraptors back if they were still alive. They were basically big chickens. Big murder chickens.
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Postby Zanera » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Purpelia wrote:It's my understanding that wild pigs are a serious threat to farmers both as viscous little murder machines and because they destroy crops and fences and stuff. Pigs in general are nasty things. Like they will eat you down to and including your bones if they are hungry. Sort of like velociraptors only you can eat them back.

We could probably eat velociraptors back if they were still alive. They were basically big chickens. Big murder chickens.


Velociraptors are only a little bigger than some cocks I've seen.

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Postby New Gaireniahr » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:35 pm

it would be totally awesome if velociraptors existed today.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:53 am

New Gaireniahr wrote:it would be totally awesome if velociraptors existed today.

Did you watch Jurassic Park?
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"Affordability
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby San Marlindo » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:39 am

How is this controversial? Hunting for bush meat is necessary for survival in many parts of the world.

Is the OP talking specifically about recreational hunting?
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