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Who wins the AL-2 GOP Runoff on July 17th?

Rep. Martha Roby
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42%
Bobby Bright
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58%
 
Total votes : 38

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:35 pm

Shofercia wrote:I should note that people can vote for Trump, but end up not supporting him, because they despise the other party. They want to rub it in. And considering that north-mid-east gets to decide America's next president, dismissing them as a bunch of opioid addicts is probably not going to work out too well for the DNC.

Really? Because classifying opponents as marijuana smoking hippy communist socialist snowflake libtard rapist loving terrorist coddling anti-american notrealamerican etc etc etc has been working wonders for them.

Quit clutching your pearls. The fight's commenced, get to fightin' or get out of the way. You don't get to high road, not this late in the game.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:36 pm

Shrillland wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:She hasn't been elected yet, she just won the Primary, she still has to win the general election.


Which she'll easily manage. Her district isn't exactly running purple after all.

Not to mention she's running against a guy who's literally a nobody who no one is even bothering to give money too.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...Okay. What office did she get elected to? The House Of Representatives. Here are the requirements to run for Rep, from Wiki:

“Each representative must: (1) be at least twenty-five years old; (2) have been a citizen of the United States for the past seven years; and (3) be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state he or she represents. Members are not required to live in the districts they represent, but they traditionally do.”

I don’t know why I’m explaining this to you, it’s common sense and it’s basic civics. Not everyone who complains about what’s going on in the country can become a politician. Ocasio-Cortez was running against insurmountable odds-she had Planned Parenthood against her, NARAL, Chuck Schumer, all sorts of big names against her. Most people could not do that. You and I could not do that.

i am well aware of what the requirements to run for office are, you know what i meant.

Then I don’t need to explain it. Maybe the next time you complain about something on the internet I can ask you then, “Why don’t you just run for office?”
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.


Ability to do something is irrelevant.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:38 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
San Lumen wrote:If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

She hasn't been elected yet, she just won the Primary, she still has to win the general election and while it's highly likely she'll win because the district is a safe one and her opponent is a relative nobody you never know.

its extremely likely she wins. its one of the bluest districts in the country. My cat could be nominated as a Democrat and it would win.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Shofercia wrote:I should note that people can vote for Trump, but end up not supporting him, because they despise the other party. They want to rub it in. And considering that north-mid-east gets to decide America's next president, dismissing them as a bunch of opioid addicts is probably not going to work out too well for the DNC.

Really? Because classifying opponents as marijuana smoking hippy communist socialist snowflake libtard rapist loving terrorist coddling anti-american notrealamerican etc etc etc has been working wonders for them.

Quit clutching your pearls. The fight's commenced, get to fightin' or get out of the way. You don't get to high road, not this late in the game.


I mean, a number of those stereotypes aren't exactly wrong.

Shit lets look at this site alone. You're a marijuana smoking hippy, we have socialists who proudly admit they vote Democrat, San Lumen has defended Islamists many times and I'm sure if I looked for a few minutes I could probably find some examples of anti-Americanism because the other side is in charge.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Shofercia wrote:I should note that people can vote for Trump, but end up not supporting him, because they despise the other party. They want to rub it in. And considering that north-mid-east gets to decide America's next president, dismissing them as a bunch of opioid addicts is probably not going to work out too well for the DNC.

Really? Because classifying opponents as marijuana smoking hippy communist socialist snowflake libtard rapist loving terrorist coddling anti-american notrealamerican etc etc etc has been working wonders for them.

Quit clutching your pearls. The fight's commenced, get to fightin' or get out of the way. You don't get to high road, not this late in the game.


I'm calling out where the swing states are at. Am I required to take sides in order to do that?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:42 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Hey now, don’t snap at her. She’s doing a much better job combating the problem by being kind and compassionate than you are by lashing out at her.

I didn't regard that as snapping, and didn't mean for it to come off that way. Just a strong statement that the time for civility has long gone past and people have no excuse for metaphorically sitting at tables with Nazis.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:She hasn't been elected yet, she just won the Primary, she still has to win the general election and while it's highly likely she'll win because the district is a safe one and her opponent is a relative nobody you never know.

its extremely likely she wins. its one of the bluest districts in the country. My cat could be nominated as a Democrat and it would win.

Yet most of the people on this site aren't likely to be in districts where a cat could win an election if it had the right Party letter beside it's name and you likely know that.

So it's just you telling them to shut up.

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Luminesa wrote:
Hey now, don’t snap at her. She’s doing a much better job combating the problem by being kind and compassionate than you are by lashing out at her.

I didn't regard that as snapping, and didn't mean for it to come off that way. Just a strong statement that the time for civility has long gone past and people have no excuse for metaphorically sitting at tables with Nazis.
The problem is that the label "Nazi" has gotten so widespread that at this point we have people labeling a quarter of the country as being Nazi...
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Really? Because classifying opponents as marijuana smoking hippy communist socialist snowflake libtard rapist loving terrorist coddling anti-american notrealamerican etc etc etc has been working wonders for them.

Quit clutching your pearls. The fight's commenced, get to fightin' or get out of the way. You don't get to high road, not this late in the game.


I mean, a number of those stereotypes aren't exactly wrong.

Shit lets look at this site alone. You're a marijuana smoking hippy, we have socialists who proudly admit they vote Democrat, San Lumen has defended Islamists many times and I'm sure if I looked for a few minutes I could probably find some examples of anti-Americanism because the other side is in charge.


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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:43 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If I can then you can.

I mean a politician is supporting me, so....

Don't worry, a female feminist pro-life politician, not one that may be a creep.


EDIT: The so.... was meant to imply that you also have a good chance.

Oh I could never be a politician, I’m not the right material for it. So you’re actually running for office?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
Hey now, don’t snap at her. She’s doing a much better job combating the problem by being kind and compassionate than you are by lashing out at her.

I didn't regard that as snapping, and didn't mean for it to come off that way. Just a strong statement that the time for civility has long gone past and people have no excuse for metaphorically sitting at tables with Nazis.


Sure they do, the same excuse that every group has had for sitting at the table with extremists.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:CM doesn't want to actually combat the problem, CM just wants to be angry.

Not really. I would prefer being annoyed by these types instead of angry at them. Instead, a lack of willingness to face the reality of the situation or fight it has endangered everything I hold dear. But hey, I'm sure if we just compromise for another eight years, that'll really get us somewhere. Peace in our time!
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

I feel like that's a slight against that woman honestly.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm

Telconi wrote:Sure they do, the same excuse that every group has had for sitting at the table with extremists.

That they're pussies who think a few moments of peace is worth destroying everything they supposedly stand for?

That's not much of an excuse. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it's no excuse at all.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Really? Because classifying opponents as marijuana smoking hippy communist socialist snowflake libtard rapist loving terrorist coddling anti-american notrealamerican etc etc etc has been working wonders for them.

Quit clutching your pearls. The fight's commenced, get to fightin' or get out of the way. You don't get to high road, not this late in the game.


I mean, a number of those stereotypes aren't exactly wrong.

Shit lets look at this site alone. You're a marijuana smoking hippy, we have socialists who proudly admit they vote Democrat, San Lumen has defended Islamists many times and I'm sure if I looked for a few minutes I could probably find some examples of anti-Americanism because the other side is in charge.

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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:45 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
I'm calling out where the swing states are at. Am I required to take sides in order to do that?

To be fair coal does cause a lot of harm to our atmosphere.
I care about the economy, but I care about living long enough so our descendants can thrive on that economy.


I agree, and here's what you do:
1. Retrain the coal miners, and get them jobs of better quality
2. Once they're all retrained and have jobs starting next week, end the coal operations

Here's what you don't do:
1. Push for an end to coal operations, leaving voters in key swing states unemployed
2. Fail to provide a retraining program that they can use
3. Call them a bunch of racist, opioid addicts as a result of their votes
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:46 pm

Genivaria wrote:
San Lumen wrote:If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

I feel like that's a slight against that woman honestly.

it wasn't intended to be

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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:46 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Telconi wrote:Sure they do, the same excuse that every group has had for sitting at the table with extremists.

That they're pussies who think a few moments of peace is worth destroying everything they supposedly stand for?

That's not much of an excuse. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it's no excuse at all.


Well I mean they have to sit somewhere...
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:46 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
Hey now, don’t snap at her. She’s doing a much better job combating the problem by being kind and compassionate than you are by lashing out at her.

I didn't regard that as snapping, and didn't mean for it to come off that way. Just a strong statement that the time for civility has long gone past and people have no excuse for metaphorically sitting at tables with Nazis.

I disagree, fighting a lack of civility with a lack of civility will just make more incivility. Or as the adage goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.

...This would have been funnier if I had posted it in the RWDT.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:47 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I didn't regard that as snapping, and didn't mean for it to come off that way. Just a strong statement that the time for civility has long gone past and people have no excuse for metaphorically sitting at tables with Nazis.

I agree about not sitting at the stables with nazis, but the lack of civility is what is destroying our country.

I may not be a nationalist because of my religious beliefs, but goddammit I care about it a lot and hate to see it destroyed like this.

I'll fight for civility, justice, empathy, liberty, unity, and meritocracy until the day I die.

Will you?

No.

Civility is just another word for a lack of conflict. There's no point in being civil with Nazis. Civility means nothing when what you love is in danger. Civility is like chivalry, or honor - it's all just a game to make life more pleasant. When civility endangers the pleasantness, sanctity, or virtue of life, it's no longer worth defending. And unity means nothing if you aren't united with some purpose.

Tell me, if fighting for liberty meant that you had to divide a country, or be rude to Nazis, would you do it?
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Postby Luminesa » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:47 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I mean, a number of those stereotypes aren't exactly wrong.

Shit lets look at this site alone. You're a marijuana smoking hippy, we have socialists who proudly admit they vote Democrat, San Lumen has defended Islamists many times and I'm sure if I looked for a few minutes I could probably find some examples of anti-Americanism because the other side is in charge.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:48 pm

Luminesa wrote:I disagree, fighting a lack of civility with a lack of civility will just make more incivility. Or as the adage goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.

...This would have been funnier if I had posted it in the RWDT.

But my goal in fighting with a lack of civility is not to breed civility. Civil society is just a way for us all to get along - when getting along is no longer worth the cost, civility has lost its purpose.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:53 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:CM doesn't want to actually combat the problem, CM just wants to be angry.

Not really. I would prefer being annoyed by these types instead of angry at them. Instead, a lack of willingness to face the reality of the situation or fight it has endangered everything I hold dear. But hey, I'm sure if we just compromise for another eight years, that'll really get us somewhere. Peace in our time!

Except you're not facing reality, the reality isn't that a fourth of the country has fallen to Nazism.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:54 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:CM doesn't want to actually combat the problem, CM just wants to be angry.

Not really. I would prefer being annoyed by these types instead of angry at them. Instead, a lack of willingness to face the reality of the situation or fight it has endangered everything I hold dear. But hey, I'm sure if we just compromise for another eight years, that'll really get us somewhere. Peace in our time!


I have to admit, I find Nazi comparisons to be somewhat hilarious, when people are trying to move to the US, even under President Trump. In case you missed it, people were fleeing Nazi Germany in droves. But hey, let's have both sides compare each other to Nazis, that'll be so productive in our bi-partisan society. If you support Social Rights and Gun Ownership, you can be called a Nazi by both parties. Down with civility, that's the way to do it! Just for you, CM, from my new favorite blog: https://babylonbee.com/news/russia-anno ... t-unaided/

MOSCOW—After years of meddling by Russian agents and Russia-funded bots and hacking attempts, the Kremlin announced Thursday it would be withdrawing from all activity in the U.S., and would instead be allowing the country to tear itself apart without any help from them. “Our spies and bots simply couldn’t keep up with the rapid pace at which America is destroying itself,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a press conference Thursday. “They’re on the verge of tearing each other to shreds. Really, it’s quite impressive.”

Putin stated his spies stationed abroad tried their hardest to divide America, but were outpaced and outclassed at every turn by the country’s highly motivated politicians and partisan activists, who are doing “a far better job” than his own spies could at ripping the country apart. “They don’t need our help, apparently. So we’ll just get out of the way and let them have at it. Bravo, America!” Putin added.
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