US Midterm Election 2018 Megathread- It's Kavanaugh

[Fahran]

No, but it's a non-negligible demographic of 'very fine people'.

They probably aren't anywhere near as prominent a demographic as they were in the nineties at the height of the militia movement. Trump's electoral success emboldened them, but to give them credit for his victory presumes more than I'm willing to presume given all the other factors that we know to be determinant.

[Conserative Morality]

They probably aren't anywhere near as prominent a demographic as they were in the nineties at the height of the militia movement. Trump's electoral success emboldened them, but to give them credit for his victory presumes more than I'm willing to presume given all the other factors that we know to be determinant.

He won by a razor-thin margin. 100,000 people over three states. I'm willing to bet that the US population of racist, sexist fucks is greater than 1%, which is greater than his margin of victory in those states.

[Fahran]

He won by a razor-thin margin. 100,000 people over three states. I'm willing to bet that the US population of racist, sexist fucks is greater than 1%, which is greater than his margin of victory in those states.

It's still not a very kind thing to say without evidence, CM. Especially not in the generalizing manner that has been done here. I dislike Trump and didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to accuse those who did of being nasty people.

[Genivaria]

46% of 55% turnout.

Now, my math isn't so good, but that sounds more like the 25% in every reliable poll that backs every word Trump says than 50%.

Good. Let the fucks rot together.

46% is nearly 50% in most people's books.

46% of those who voted in 2016 yes, and those who voted made up only 58% of eligible voters.
Which means that 26% of eligible voters voted for Trump in 2016.
Trump's popularity from his inauguration to today has dropped about 5%.

So no nowhere near half the country are Trump supporters.

[Telconi]

46% is nearly 50% in most people's books.

46% of those who voted in 2016 yes, and those who voted made up only 58% of eligible voters.
Which means that 26% of eligible voters voted for Trump in 2016.
Trump's popularity from his inauguration to today has dropped about 5%.

So no nowhere near half the country are Trump supporters.

Okay... but he said voters... of which 46% did, any extrapolated numbers to other categories are irrelevant.

[Genivaria]

46% of those who voted in 2016 yes, and those who voted made up only 58% of eligible voters.
Which means that 26% of eligible voters voted for Trump in 2016.
Trump's popularity from his inauguration to today has dropped about 5%.

So no nowhere near half the country are Trump supporters.

Okay... but he said voters... of which 46% did, any extrapolated numbers to other categories are irrelevant.

And I'm pointing out that 2016 Trump voters do not equate to 2018 Trump supporters.

[Conserative Morality]

It's still not a very kind thing to say without evidence, CM. Especially not in the generalizing manner that has been done here. I dislike Trump and didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to accuse those who did of being nasty people.

You know what else isn't very kind? Putting a man in power who has openly admitted to sexually assaulting women, has classed groups of people as 'rapists' who bring drugs to our fair, white country, and calls Nazis 'very good people'.

Fuck kindness. The time for kindness is long gone.

[The Lone Alliance]

46% of 55% turnout.

Now, my math isn't so good, but that sounds more like the 25% in every reliable poll that backs every word Trump says than 50%.

Good. Let the fucks rot together.

2016 Trump voters and 2018 Trump supporters aren't the same thing.
Also, saying "half the country voted for him therefore you're calling half the country racist/sexist" is wrong.

Exactly that's why I didn't say half the country, I said half the voting population, which is still around 62,984,828, which is the total number of votes he got in the last election. Considering his current approval ratings are hovering around the same percentage number of voters I can say that his numbers have dropped some but not enough to reach a level where there's a "Vast majority" that can just harass the rest into submission.

[Telconi]

It's still not a very kind thing to say without evidence, CM. Especially not in the generalizing manner that has been done here. I dislike Trump and didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to accuse those who did of being nasty people.

You know what else isn't very kind? Putting a man in power who has openly admitted to sexually assaulting women, has classed groups of people as 'rapists' who bring drugs to our fair, white country, and calls Nazis 'very good people'.

Fuck kindness. The time for kindness is long gone.

Just remember, nobody who works on the Oklahoma Federal Building did anything wrong CM.

[San Lumen]

You know what else isn't very kind? Putting a man in power who has openly admitted to sexually assaulting women, has classed groups of people as 'rapists' who bring drugs to our fair, white country, and calls Nazis 'very good people'.

Fuck kindness. The time for kindness is long gone.

Just remember, nobody who works on the Oklahoma Federal Building did anything wrong CM.

I beg your pardon?

[Valgora]

Just remember, nobody who works on the Oklahoma Federal Building did anything wrong CM.

I beg your pardon?

He's telling CM to not Oklahoma anything.

[Telconi]

Just remember, nobody who works on the Oklahoma Federal Building did anything wrong CM.

I beg your pardon?

Just telling CM not to do anything foolish.

[Cannot think of a name]

I beg your pardon?

He's telling CM to not Oklahoma anything.

Considering Timothy McVeigh's political beliefs, is sort of ironic. Honestly, Timothy McViegh is the kind of people CM is talking about. It's just blindly kicking up mud and not really thinking it through.

[Luminesa]

It's still not a very kind thing to say without evidence, CM. Especially not in the generalizing manner that has been done here. I dislike Trump and didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to accuse those who did of being nasty people.

You know what else isn't very kind? Putting a man in power who has openly admitted to sexually assaulting women, has classed groups of people as 'rapists' who bring drugs to our fair, white country, and calls Nazis 'very good people'.

Fuck kindness. The time for kindness is long gone.

Hey now, don’t snap at her. She’s doing a much better job combating the problem by being kind and compassionate than you are by lashing out at her.

[The Lone Alliance]

You know what else isn't very kind? Putting a man in power who has openly admitted to sexually assaulting women, has classed groups of people as 'rapists' who bring drugs to our fair, white country, and calls Nazis 'very good people'.

Fuck kindness. The time for kindness is long gone.

Hey now, don’t snap at her. She’s doing a much better job combating the problem by being kind and compassionate than you are by lashing out at her.

CM doesn't want to actually combat the problem, CM just wants to be angry.

[Luminesa]

Yea, I know only one person sometimes runs.
Sometimes, only one person runs in an entire race.
I've literally seen some Republicans from AR run unopposed.

However, that shouldn't be an excuse to pick better candidates.
In fact, if someone runs unopposed in a primary and I don't like them, that's even more of a reason for me to not vote for them.

Why aren't you running then?

Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

[San Lumen]

Why aren't you running then?

Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

[Shrillland]

Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

Not because of electability. Because a lot of us have jobs and lives already and don't want to risk that for the possibility of running for office. Besides, public office means that you'll be spending your life surrounded by people you'd walk across the street to avoid in other circumstances.

[Shofercia]

I should note that people can vote for Trump, but end up not supporting him, because they despise the other party. They want to rub it in. And considering that north-mid-east gets to decide America's next president, dismissing them as a bunch of opioid addicts is probably not going to work out too well for the DNC. Heck, even in California, the self-dubbed "Rebellion State" a pro-Trump Republican got 9% and an anti-Trump Republican got 26%. John Cox, a Republican, won a plurality in San Diego County, Ventura County, and held the Republican safe areas: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/resul ... y-election

Just because the Republicans in California have been driven underground, doesn't mean that they vanished, and when the elections come, they're going to ensure that no more than a net of two Congressional seats switch sides.

Also, regarding Roe v Wade - do you guys actually think that SCOTUS will overturn it prior to their 2021 session? It's SCOTUS, not Usain Bolt lol.

[Shrillland]

I should note that people can vote for Trump, but end up not supporting him, because they despise the other party. They want to rub it in. And considering that north-mid-east gets to decide America's next president, dismissing them as a bunch of opioid addicts is probably not going to work out too well for the DNC. Heck, even in California, the self-dubbed "Rebellion State" a pro-Trump Republican got 9% and an anti-Trump Republican got 26%. John Cox, a Republican, won a plurality in San Diego County, Ventura County, and held the Republican safe areas: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/resul ... y-election

Just because the Republicans in California have been driven underground, doesn't mean that they vanished, and when the elections comes, they're going to ensure that no more than a net of two Congressional seats switch sides.

Also, regarding Roe v Wade - do you guys actually think that SCOTUS will overturn it prior to their 2021 session? It's SCOTUS, not Usain Bolt lol.

All it would take is one lawsuit next year for them to possibly consider it.

[Luminesa]

Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

...Okay. What office did she get elected to? The House Of Representatives. Here are the requirements to run for Rep, from Wiki:

“Each representative must: (1) be at least twenty-five years old; (2) have been a citizen of the United States for the past seven years; and (3) be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state he or she represents. Members are not required to live in the districts they represent, but they traditionally do.”

I don’t know why I’m explaining this to you, it’s common sense and it’s basic civics. Not everyone who complains about what’s going on in the country can become a politician. Ocasio-Cortez was running against insurmountable odds-she had Planned Parenthood against her, NARAL, Chuck Schumer, all sorts of big names against her. Most people could not do that. You and I could not do that.

[Shofercia]

I should note that people can vote for Trump, but end up not supporting him, because they despise the other party. They want to rub it in. And considering that north-mid-east gets to decide America's next president, dismissing them as a bunch of opioid addicts is probably not going to work out too well for the DNC. Heck, even in California, the self-dubbed "Rebellion State" a pro-Trump Republican got 9% and an anti-Trump Republican got 26%. John Cox, a Republican, won a plurality in San Diego County, Ventura County, and held the Republican safe areas: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/resul ... y-election

Just because the Republicans in California have been driven underground, doesn't mean that they vanished, and when the elections comes, they're going to ensure that no more than a net of two Congressional seats switch sides.

Also, regarding Roe v Wade - do you guys actually think that SCOTUS will overturn it prior to their 2021 session? It's SCOTUS, not Usain Bolt lol.

All it would take is one lawsuit next year for them to possibly consider it.

First, said lawsuit would have to make it to the Supreme Court. Second, they'd have to rule on it, broadly, in order to repeal Roe v Wade. Considering how narrow the ruling in the Baker Case was, I'm just not seeing it done in a single case.

[San Lumen]

If Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

...Okay. What office did she get elected to? The House Of Representatives. Here are the requirements to run for Rep, from Wiki:

“Each representative must: (1) be at least twenty-five years old; (2) have been a citizen of the United States for the past seven years; and (3) be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state he or she represents. Members are not required to live in the districts they represent, but they traditionally do.”

I don’t know why I’m explaining this to you, it’s common sense and it’s basic civics. Not everyone who complains about what’s going on in the country can become a politician. Ocasio-Cortez was running against insurmountable odds-she had Planned Parenthood against her, NARAL, Chuck Schumer, all sorts of big names against her. Most people could not do that. You and I could not do that.

i am well aware of what the requirements to run for office are, you know what i meant.

[The Lone Alliance]

Lumen, not everyone can run for a political office or become politically involved beyond just voting.

If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

She hasn't been elected yet, she just won the Primary, she still has to win the general election and while it's highly likely she'll win because the district is a safe one and her opponent is a relative nobody you never know.

[Shrillland]

If Alexandra Ocasio Cortez can get elected then anyone can.

She hasn't been elected yet, she just won the Primary, she still has to win the general election.

Which she'll easily manage. Her district isn't exactly running purple after all.